SWEET!!!

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: Tangerines

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor

Originally posted by: dullard
Drilling blocked in Senate.

Sweet!

It can be filibustered.

This is a good thing on so many levels. Obviously it's fantastic for America and Americans but it's also a good thing for Alaska. What's more, it keeps all the oil underground.

Hopefully "you wont see a drop of that oil forever..."

*happy dance*

Please explain to me how this is good for Alaska? This is like telling Michigan they can't let GM or Ford open a new plant. (Except slope jobs pay more)

I guess we'll see if Stevens will really execute plan "B". That would be for him to filibuster the ANWRless version of the bill and keep everyone there over Christmas.

What pisses me off the most is that this in just another thing that would pass easily in a straight up or down vote. Democracy "inaction" I suppose.

Are you honestly comparing Michigan manufacturing jobs to this? This a drop in the bucket compared to the importance of manufacturing jobs in Michigan.

Absolutely I am. The automotive industry employs about 70,000 people in Michigan. Link There are approx 10 million people in Michigan. So about .7% of the population is directly employed by the automotive industry.

ANWR is expected to create 50,000 - 65,000 jobs nation-wide. LinkOf those jobs, ~7,500 would be in Alaska. That would be a little better than 1% of Alaska's population. And those jobs, based on current slope worker pay, would be higher paying jobs than automotive jobs. And what's more, this is not a "here today/gone tomorrow" job creation. Most of these jobs will be in play for over a decade. (Think there are people at Chevy who still think they will have jobs in 10 years?)

And this is just one field! I'm not even counting the entire population that is in one way or another employed by the oil industry up here.

Oil is to Alaska what cars are to Michigan. Only much more so...

 

[BBond]

Looks like those Alaskan ANWR jobs are going to go the way of those Michigan auto workers' jobs.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: BBond
Looks like those Alaskan ANWR jobs are going to go the way of those Michigan auto workers' jobs.

Automotive jobs are being lost to poor management and overseas competition.
ANWR jobs are deliberately being killed by Dems in congress.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: loup garou
I'd just like to give a big thank you to the asshole attached this crap to the bill along with hurricane relief. Merry Christmas motherfvckers and thanks for getting our relief money shot down in the Senate.

Thank the Dems. The bill would have passed 54-46 if they hadn't filibustered it.

Thank the Republicans for being such POS's that they try to leverage the troops and/or Katrina victims so they can make a few bucks while doing NOTHING to help us against the dependence of foreign oil.

Don't give me the 50% crap. That's so bogus. 50% for ONE YEAR maybe.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: Tangerines

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor

Originally posted by: dullard
Drilling blocked in Senate.

Sweet!

It can be filibustered.

This is a good thing on so many levels. Obviously it's fantastic for America and Americans but it's also a good thing for Alaska. What's more, it keeps all the oil underground.

Hopefully "you wont see a drop of that oil forever..."

*happy dance*

Please explain to me how this is good for Alaska? This is like telling Michigan they can't let GM or Ford open a new plant. (Except slope jobs pay more)

I guess we'll see if Stevens will really execute plan "B". That would be for him to filibuster the ANWRless version of the bill and keep everyone there over Christmas.

What pisses me off the most is that this in just another thing that would pass easily in a straight up or down vote. Democracy "inaction" I suppose.

Are you honestly comparing Michigan manufacturing jobs to this? This a drop in the bucket compared to the importance of manufacturing jobs in Michigan.

Absolutely I am. The automotive industry employs about 70,000 people in Michigan. Link There are approx 10 million people in Michigan. So about .7% of the population is directly employed by the automotive industry.

ANWR is expected to create 50,000 - 65,000 jobs nation-wide. LinkOf those jobs, ~7,500 would be in Alaska. That would be a little better than 1% of Alaska's population. And those jobs, based on current slope worker pay, would be higher paying jobs than automotive jobs. And what's more, this is not a "here today/gone tomorrow" job creation. Most of these jobs will be in play for over a decade. (Think there are people at Chevy who still think they will have jobs in 10 years?)

And this is just one field! I'm not even counting the entire population that is in one way or another employed by the oil industry up here.

Oil is to Alaska what cars are to Michigan. Only much more so...

65,000 jobs by 2020. You left that part out.

How many jobs would be created by actually using this money to invest in alternative fuel research and nuclear power expansion? I'd be willing to bet a helluva lot more.