Switching to an iPhone this time. Enough with Android.

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dawheat

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Might I also add, Android UI stutters whereas IOS is a realtime OS which never stutters. And games are infinitely better optimized for IOS than they are for android, which means IOS gets 3 or 4 times the framerate of Android plus doesn't have the in-game skips and freezes that Android has.
And the best part is iPhones have metal API now (5s and up) which makes games run even double or triple as fast than they already do.
And on the hardware side iphones usually have the most powerful GPU and best CPU, android manufacturers however try to deceive the buyers by adding more cores (quad core, octa core, etc...) when it's been said by all the technical people that more than 2 cores on an Android makes absolutely no difference on performance and is just a marketing gimmick, same as android's advertized higher CPU speeds which the phones can't maintain for more than 5 minutes before thermal throttling kicks in (in contrast with iphone CPUs which throttle far less)

All of the above makes iphones more than worth the price, and shows that only ignorant people buy android.

If you're going to throw around the word ignorant, at least try to educate yourself first

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9518/the-mobile-cpu-corecount-debate

There is more than one way to solve a problem, though in fairness it took a gen to get big.LITTLE worked out. A9 vs. S820 vs. Mongoose SOCs honestly are all going to be excellent and the real world difference between them, trivial.
 

QueBert

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Might I also add, Android UI stutters whereas IOS is a realtime OS which never stutters. And games are infinitely better optimized for IOS than they are for android, which means IOS gets 3 or 4 times the framerate of Android plus doesn't have the in-game skips and freezes that Android has.
And the best part is iPhones have metal API now (5s and up) which makes games run even double or triple as fast than they already do.
And on the hardware side iphones usually have the most powerful GPU and best CPU, android manufacturers however try to deceive the buyers by adding more cores (quad core, octa core, etc...) when it's been said by all the technical people that more than 2 cores on an Android makes absolutely no difference on performance and is just a marketing gimmick, same as android's advertized higher CPU speeds which the phones can't maintain for more than 5 minutes before thermal throttling kicks in (in contrast with iphone CPUs which throttle far less)

All of the above makes iphones more than worth the price, and shows that only ignorant people buy android.

Was true in older versions of iOS, 8.3 on my iPhone 6+ can stutter in places badly. Android has never been smooth imho, iOS back in the days was almost perfect speed wise, but 8+ really messed things up. I have no idea how 9 is, as I won't install it until it's Jailbroken. But 8.3 stutters for me, at times almost as badly as Android my HTC One. And that phone is a straight lag fest for so many things.

Wanna see iOS become insta-choppy as hell? Go into the music player turn it sideways and scroll thru your album art. It becomes laggy and choppy to the point I almost want to leave iOS completely. Probably not an annoyance or even a care to most, but I listen to tons of music and watching the covers scrolls that laggy just pisses me off. I hope iOS 9 is A LOT less laggy, because 8 just blows imho. It's perplexing they can't f***ing cache the album art, but apparently it's not that simple, or they just don't care.
 
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Commodus

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Google does not control the software on my Nexus phone. All I have to do I flip the toggle (it's right there in my settings menu, not hidden somewhere) to unlock my bootloader and I can do whatever I want with it.

You didn't get what I mean -- I'm referring to a harmony between the hardware and software, where you know the two were designed closely together. Google often has OEMs design Nexus phones based on what Android's feature set will be that year; this year, fingerprint readers will likely be the big deal.

That's been Apple's thing from the start. It could have a genuinely good fingerprint reader before everyone else because it didn't have to wait for someone else to finish the operating system. It adds features to iOS knowing what kind of performance it'll get with its future processors. When you're just another Android OEM, you don't have that kind of access. You have to play it safe knowing that Google or Qualcomm may not show you all their cards in advance, and that your hardware integration will be a bolt-on feature at best.
 

lopri

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I love how everyone forgets how behind Apple is in features until they catch up every once in a while. Then the one or two features they do have versus the competition suddenly becomes a must have, and of course none of them are gimmicky.
Aye. It is all about controlling narratives.

Example 1: Apple's SOCs never throttles. -> http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2448524

Obviously false, and to the extent Apple's SOCs throttle less than competing SOCs that happened only with A8/A8X. But many unassuming readers might believe and attribute that narrative to all past, present, and future products from iOS devices and competing products, respectively.

Example 2: iOS 9's multi-Window feature is the first multi-Window done right on mobile. -> http://www.anandtech.com/show/9605/the-ios-9-review/7

Another loaded narrative with full of subjectivity. The author all but ignores multitasking features implemented in competing products and declares that Apple's solution to be the only one that truly "gets it." In all likelihood he will measure all other competing products in the future against Apple's implementation, and any deviation from that gold standard will be counted against such products. Bias? What bias?

I also suspect that we might still be dealing with the myth/misunderstanding of OLED's "unnatural colors" had Apple not adopted it for its smartwatch.
 

ControlD

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You didn't get what I mean -- I'm referring to a harmony between the hardware and software, where you know the two were designed closely together. Google often has OEMs design Nexus phones based on what Android's feature set will be that year; this year, fingerprint readers will likely be the big deal.

And yet you referred to that as a "problem". Why is that a problem exactly? I don't see that as being a negative towards the Nexus line.

but the problem is that Google's Nexus models... well, they're patterned after the iPhone model, where the vendor controls both the hardware and software. You're a stone's throw from going with Apple at that point.

Those two quotes don't seem to be making the same argument. Could just be me though.
 
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Red Storm

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iPhones "just work" the same way an Android phone "just works". I have to spend just as much time tinkering with an iPhone as I do an Android phone.

OP has a history of posts complaining about problems, and then blaming an entire platform for them. Every Note 3 & 4 must have sound and GPS issues, right? I must have been imagining my Note 3 & 4 functioning just fine when I had them.

If you want to get an iPhone, by all means go ahead. You should buy the device/OS that's right for you. For some that's iOS, for others it's Android.
 

trmiv

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I thought about doing the same. Went as far as buying an iPhone and test driving it for a few days. Couldn't do it, just not for me. I don't hate iOS, it's just not my mobile OS. Returned the iphone, went and bought a Note 5, and I love it.

I'd really suggest buying and test driving an iPhone for a bit to see if it works for you before completely commiting. You may find you love it. Or you may find you hate it. Or you may find it's pretty nice, but just not for you.
 
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Hope your iPhone experience is good, for your sake.

Some of us prefer hardware choice. Some of us prefer saving money. Some of us prefer customization. That's the beauty of a mature market.
 

sweenish

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Problems with SAMSUNG + PEBCAK == Android sucks.

Sounds legit. Don't know why we need a thread for one person switching their mobile OS.

What's your point, OP? Why do you think people would care? I'm on a N5, and have zero of the problems you describe. Millions of other people don't have the problems you describe, but you think it has to be Android?

Also 4 years is not many, many years. That's the equivalent of two mobile contracts. Oh, wow. Such forever, much time.

But, enjoy your new phone.
 
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Oyeve

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In this day and age with cloud storage do you really need a sd card? If you really need the storage Note 5 comes in 128 gb. That should be plenty for most people.

The Note 5 does not have a 128GB option. If it did I would have gotten it. I can see the OPs point but I myself would never choose to get an iphone for any reason. I will just continue to enjoy my Note 4.
 

Midwayman

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I'm switching to team Apple this round too. Nothing interesting in Android this year. Apple is finally getting some of the features that really annoyed me not having iOS9. Also have an iPad (which is legit better than the android tablet experience) and getting everything on the same platform will be a bonus. Spent years on android and XDA doing roms and rooting. Guess I'm partially getting tired of having to fiddle with my phone to undo all the crap carriers and manufacturers do to screw them up. I'd never say Apple is 'better' on the phone side, but they certainly have their advantages too.
 

ControlD

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I thought about switching back to the iPhone this year as well. If Verizon hadn't started carrying the Nexus 6 I very well might have. There's nothing wrong with changing platforms from time to time. Keeps things interesting.
 

Commodus

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And yet you referred to that as a "problem". Why is that a problem exactly? I don't see that as being a negative towards the Nexus line.

Those two quotes don't seem to be making the same argument. Could just be me though.

I'm not saying that the Nexus line is bad, I should make that clear. That hardware/software unity is good! The issue is that it effectively limits you to one vendor, which partly obviates the point of Android. You still have the greater software flexibility, of course, but you're a hair's breadth away from embracing Apple's philosophy.
 

Red Storm

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I'm not saying that the Nexus line is bad, I should make that clear. That hardware/software unity is good! The issue is that it effectively limits you to one vendor, which partly obviates the point of Android. You still have the greater software flexibility, of course, but you're a hair's breadth away from embracing Apple's philosophy.

The only real similarity between the two is that a single company handles the hardware and software... but that by itself means nothing. You have much more freedom with the software on one compared to the other, so the philosophy is not really the same at all.
 

Mai72

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The Note 5 does not have a 128GB option. If it did I would have gotten it. I can see the OPs point but I myself would never choose to get an iphone for any reason. I will just continue to enjoy my Note 4.

My fault.

The Galaxy S-6 has the 128gb option. I'm sure Samsung will roll out a 128gb option for the Note 5 within a month, especially since many previous Note users are upset with Samsung's decision to omit the sd slot.
 

Oyeve

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My fault.

The Galaxy S-6 has the 128gb option. I'm sure Samsung will roll out a 128gb option for the Note 5 within a month, especially since many previous Note users are upset with Samsung's decision to omit the sd slot.

But the problem is they didn't. Bad move on their part. Also removing IR blaster and other things did not help them one bit. I am hoping the S6 and Note 5 were market tests and they resume putting back what people want. I am sure most people don't care either way but I am also sure there are more upset people who do care.
 

sm625

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If a fingerprint sensor is that important to you, then you definitely belong in the iphone category. They're not secure, and enabling it drains the battery so its not even worth using.
 

SAWYER

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From one of the links)talking about the Galaxy S3)
" The phone makes the pants pocket bulge beyond any reason. It's too big for any pants to be carried in a pocket, unless you wear one of those super baggy pants with bottomless pockets. It's completely impossible to carry to work, unless you plan to wear it on a belt with a belt clip/holster. Even in this case, it creates a huge problem when sitting down on the train or in a car. At best, the clip will bother you. At worse, it will just break off, as it did in my case. It's just NOT practical. Carrying it in a bag? C'mon.. I'm not a girl. I actually want to be able to pick up my phone fast enough to receive the call, not dig in my bag.
Carry it in my hand all day? Yeah.. Right... Carry it in my winter jacket pocket? Viable, yes, but what if it's summer?
It DOES feel too big in my hand when using it no matter how many times someone says that it doesn't. I dont have small hands at all. I am a 31 year old male."


he is in trouble as both the iphones are now bigger
 

gar655

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Hmmmm...... just switched to Android after about 5 years with iOS. My $220 MotoG 2015 is a better phone than my iPhone 5. Better battery, and I was shocked to see that the camera is better as well. Android 5 is nice, the moto assist features are fantastic, much better notifications from the lock screen.

I'm able to use (finally) a good mail app, my choice of calendar app that syncs so much better with exchange than Apple's mail.

I do run a security app that seems to carry very little overhead. Running a sercuity/anit-virus app is new for me but it doesn't get in the way so I don't mind.

Oh, and the phone is water resistant, has a better speaker, better call quality on both ends and I like the bigger screen and the phone still easily fits in my pocket.

Interestingly the stock gmail app is way worse than the iOS version for some reason. No matter since I don't use it and have disable it.

The MotoG 2015 is so good for the money I will never spend more for a phone.
 

Artdeco

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I just can't quit Android, got an LG 7" LTE tablet for my car and a floor mount, turned out pretty well. Gotta love the free music streaming TMobile allows, and that giant GPS just kicks ass. Saw the app for car use and there's no comparison with what I could do with an iPad. Plus the Torque apps for real time OBD II monitoring with a BT adapter made android the only choice



 
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Red Storm

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Hmmmm...... just switched to Android after about 5 years with iOS. My $220 MotoG 2015 is a better phone than my iPhone 5. Better battery, and I was shocked to see that the camera is better as well. Android 5 is nice, the moto assist features are fantastic, much better notifications from the lock screen.

I'm able to use (finally) a good mail app, my choice of calendar app that syncs so much better with exchange than Apple's mail.

I do run a security app that seems to carry very little overhead. Running a sercuity/anit-virus app is new for me but it doesn't get in the way so I don't mind.

Oh, and the phone is water resistant, has a better speaker, better call quality on both ends and I like the bigger screen and the phone still easily fits in my pocket.

Interestingly the stock gmail app is way worse than the iOS version for some reason. No matter since I don't use it and have disable it.

The MotoG 2015 is so good for the money I will never spend more for a phone.

You don't need antivirus on your phone.
 

LPCTech

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You dont need antivirus on a Moto G 2015. I just got my girlfriend one and its very very nice. The 16gb, 2gb ram model. I would get one but my galaxy s3 still works. As for apple they are 100 percent gimick and phones for those that dont know computers well. And thats fine, those people need phones. As well as the people who are computer savvy but just like apple...for some reason. Im just not going to pay 3-4x as much for something I can do less with. But to each their own.
 
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