Switching to an iPhone this time. Enough with Android.

[Eug]

Are we sure he isn't just pulling our collective legs?

How can someone who likes fingerprint sensors buy a phone for many hundreds of dollars without a fingerprint sensor?

Like, WTF?

 

[poofyhairguy]

Are we sure he isn't just pulling our collective legs?

How can someone who likes fingerprint sensors buy a phone for many hundreds of dollars without a fingerprint sensor?

Like, WTF?

Exactly. But instead everyone went into their own mini-rant.

Bravo OP. Enjoy the iPhone.

 

[QueBert]

If a fingerprint sensor is that important to you, then you definitely belong in the iphone category. They're not secure, and enabling it drains the battery so its not even worth using.

Not secure? I buy crap all the time using Apple Pay. Mine, and plenty of other banks find it secure enough where I can make a large purchase without showing any ID. I recently bought something for $499 using just my fingerprint. They didn't ask to see ID or a card or anything. Seems pretty secure to me *shrug*

I wouldn't touch a phone without a good fingerprint sensor.

 

[Commodus]

Fingerprints are more secure than PIN codes and passwords when used by themselves, and done well (that is, making it impossible to access the information remotely); they're tied to you, and they're not easily faked. That's why Apple Pay uses only fingerprints for authentication.

When used alongside PINs and passwords, they're different -- they're for convenience. They don't add security, but they encourage everyday users to lock their phone where they might otherwise throw caution to the wind.

 

[elitejp]

Not secure? I buy crap all the time using Apple Pay. Mine, and plenty of other banks find it secure enough where I can make a large purchase without showing any ID. I recently bought something for $499 using just my fingerprint. They didn't ask to see ID or a card or anything. Seems pretty secure to me *shrug*

I wouldn't touch a phone without a good fingerprint sensor.

I wouldnt be surprised if company policy wasnt to check id and the sales clerk just didnt bother. But thats the same way with credit cards and just about anything.

What I like about this thread is how the OP is angry at samsung for non expandable storage and non removable battery and uses this as two reasons why he wants to switch. But then switches to a phone that has never had expandable storage or a removable battery.

Personaly im using an asus zenfone 2. Outside of camera lacking compared to flagship models from samsung or iphone I just dont see what all the fuss is about using a phone and running benchmarks every other day. Theres more to life than using your phone. Not an attack on anyone just a friendly reminder.

 

[Raduque]

Also 4 years is not many, many years. That's the equivalent of two mobile contracts. Oh, wow. Such forever, much time.

Hah, well it might be "just two mobile contracts" but since 2010, I've personally be through the Galaxy S Vibrant, Galaxy S II, Note II, Note 3, Note 4 and Galaxy S6. That's 6 phones in 5 years.

In mobile hardware terms, that's forever.

 

[sweenish]

Or, like I said, it's not.

 

[poofyhairguy]

I wouldn't touch a phone without a good fingerprint sensor.

One thing that bugs me about the iPhone is that I can't get full use out of the fingerprint sensor. To me the killer app for the fingerprint sensor isn't unlocking, or mobile payments, or even not having to put in a password to install apps. To me the killer app is how my sister uses it on her S6- as the master password for LastPass!

I am dying to get a fingerprint sensor on my next phone for that reason, too many of my important passwords for websites or apps are crap. But I am too lazy to start memorizing new long passwords, and if you use LastPass with a crap master password it isn't even worth doing. But the way Android uses the password scanner plus LastPass I could fortify my entire online universe overnight.

But just like with NFC, Apple won't let programs use the reader for this purpose because it is psyco about apps getting access to password fields. I wish they would open up things more.

 

[StrangerGuy]

I gonna grab a 6S Plus 64GB on launch day. I got nothing against Android but none of them are worth buying at iPhone-like prices.

 

[trmiv]

One thing that bugs me about the iPhone is that I can't get full use out of the fingerprint sensor. To me the killer app for the fingerprint sensor isn't unlocking, or mobile payments, or even not having to put in a password to install apps. To me the killer app is how my sister uses it on her S6- as the master password for LastPass!

I am dying to get a fingerprint sensor on my next phone for that reason, too many of my important passwords for websites or apps are crap. But I am too lazy to start memorizing new long passwords, and if you use LastPass with a crap master password it isn't even worth doing. But the way Android uses the password scanner plus LastPass I could fortify my entire online universe overnight.

But just like with NFC, Apple won't let programs use the reader for this purpose because it is psyco about apps getting access to password fields. I wish they would open up things more.

I love the scanner for this purpose on my Note 5. On previous versions of last pass it didn't work well. Often it would ask for the password, other times the fingerprint. They finally resolved that and it will now prompt every time for the fingerprint. Love it

 

[Raduque]

Or, like I said, it's not.

Then what would you call "Many Many years" with an OS that's only been around for 6?

One thing that bugs me about the iPhone is that I can't get full use out of the fingerprint sensor. To me the killer app for the fingerprint sensor isn't unlocking, or mobile payments, or even not having to put in a password to install apps. To me the killer app is how my sister uses it on her S6- as the master password for LastPass!

I am dying to get a fingerprint sensor on my next phone for that reason, too many of my important passwords for websites or apps are crap. But I am too lazy to start memorizing new long passwords, and if you use LastPass with a crap master password it isn't even worth doing. But the way Android uses the password scanner plus LastPass I could fortify my entire online universe overnight.

But just like with NFC, Apple won't let programs use the reader for this purpose because it is psyco about apps getting access to password fields. I wish they would open up things more.

Something I've never understood about Lastpass and other password storage apps - how does it actually work? I always thought you just open the app, log in with your master app, then copy/paste the relevant password into the page or app. Does LP actually intercept the password field and prompt you to enter the master pass, then automatically selects the appropriate password?

 

[sweenish]

Then what would you call "Many Many years" with an OS that's only been around for 6?

I wouldn't.

It's a gross exaggeration of the facts. If someone uses a stupid descriptor or label, I'm not responsible to make a definition that works. Just recognize it as stupid and move on.

 

[Raduque]

I wouldn't.

It's a gross exaggeration of the facts. If someone uses a stupid descriptor or label, I'm not responsible to make a definition that works. Just recognize it as stupid and move on.

I think you need to quit focusing on semantics and move on. You were attacking the OP over nothing. You don't like this thread, fine, don't read it and just go away.

 

[soccerballtux]

if 6S has 2GB I'll be seriously considering a jump to Apple. So tired of Google. Latest Youtube on KK has broken autorotate-- if you auto-rotate to full screen, you can't autorotate back out--you must interact with UI

 

[poofyhairguy]

Something I've never understood about Lastpass and other password storage apps - how does it actually work? I always thought you just open the app, log in with your master app, then copy/paste the relevant password into the page or app. Does LP actually intercept the password field and prompt you to enter the master pass, then automatically selects the appropriate password?

Yes.

 

[Commodus]

if 6S has 2GB I'll be seriously considering a jump to Apple. So tired of Google. Latest Youtube on KK has broken autorotate-- if you auto-rotate to full screen, you can't autorotate back out--you must interact with UI

It does, and the benchmarks suggest that it cleans the clock of the Galaxy S6 in raw performance (resolution-independent tests, too). Not surprising that this is shipping in September where the S6 shipped in April, but the A9 is the first mobile processor I've seen this year that outperforms the latest Exynos chip. Apple may have an uncontested performance lead until next spring, at this rate.

 

[mnewsham]

It does, and the benchmarks suggest that it cleans the clock of the Galaxy S6 in raw performance (resolution-independent tests, too). Not surprising that this is shipping in September where the S6 shipped in April, but the A9 is the first mobile processor I've seen this year that outperforms the latest Exynos chip. Apple may have an uncontested performance lead until next spring, at this rate.

What do you mean the A9 is the first mobile SoC to outperform Exynos 7420?
The iphone 5s (~1500 single core in geekbench)beats or matches the Galaxy S6 in single core performance, the iphone 6(~1650 single core) clearly beats the GS6 in single core performance, so it is really no shock that the iphone 6s(~2400 single core) ALSO beats the GS6 in single core performance. Apple single core performance has ALWAYS been their strong point.

 

[BoberFett]

I just can't quit Android, got an LG 7" LTE tablet for my car and a floor mount, turned out pretty well. Gotta love the free music streaming TMobile allows, and that giant GPS just kicks ass. Saw the app for car use and there's no comparison with what I could do with an iPad. Plus the Torque apps for real time OBD II monitoring with a BT adapter made android the only choice

Is that the v410? I got one for "free" (free when paying for the plan at $10/mo) and like it generally, but it seems to slow down a lot lately. I'm debating doing a reset. Have you had any issues with yours?

 

[sweenish]

I think you need to quit focusing on semantics and move on. You were attacking the OP over nothing. You don't like this thread, fine, don't read it and just go away.

Yeah, how dare I criticize a garbage thread for being garbage. You're just dragging it out, equally as guilty as me at this point.

You don't like my replies, fine, don't read them and just go away.

See how it works both ways?

I also addressed more than semantics, you chose only semantics as your reply to me. Figure yourself out before criticizing the fact that I responded to a question you apparently didn't want to hear an answer to.

 

[Commodus]

What do you mean the A9 is the first mobile SoC to outperform Exynos 7420?
The iphone 5s (~1500 single core in geekbench)beats or matches the Galaxy S6 in single core performance, the iphone 6(~1650 single core) clearly beats the GS6 in single core performance, so it is really no shock that the iphone 6s(~2400 single core) ALSO beats the GS6 in single core performance. Apple single core performance has ALWAYS been their strong point.

That's true, but single-core performance still matters in some situations. I suppose we'll only really get the full scoop when we see more real-world tests (although it's safe to say that Apple will clean Samsung's clock in web browsing, its strong suit).

 

[mnewsham]

That's true, but single-core performance still matters in some situations. I suppose we'll only really get the full scoop when we see more real-world tests (although it's safe to say that Apple will clean Samsung's clock in web browsing, its strong suit).

Potentially, Exynos 7420 is still better in multicore performance, but apple single core performance will negate most of that for all but benchmarks most likely.

 

[ThisIsChrisKim]

That's true, but single-core performance still matters in some situations. I suppose we'll only really get the full scoop when we see more real-world tests (although it's safe to say that Apple will clean Samsung's clock in web browsing, its strong suit).

http://anandtech.com/show/9518/the-mobile-cpu-corecount-debate

Android is designed to use as many threads as possible and will use all available threads and cores to its maximum potential. Even in something as simple as web browsing.

n the end what we should take away from this analysis is that Android devices can make much better use of multi-threading than initially expected. There's very solid evidence that not only are 4.4 big.LITTLE designs validated, but we also find practical benefits of using 8-core "little" designs over similar single-cluster 4-core SoCs. For the foreseeable future it seems that vendors who rely on ARM's CPU designs will be well served with a continued use of 4.4 b.L designs.

 

[Dulanic]

http://anandtech.com/show/9518/the-mobile-cpu-corecount-debate

Android is designed to use as many threads as possible and will use all available threads and cores to its maximum potential. Even in something as simple as web browsing.

That's not true. Also, you can change the governor and other settings to change how many cores are used and when. One of the huge benefits to rooting.

 

[Midwayman]

One thing that bugs me about the iPhone is that I can't get full use out of the fingerprint sensor. To me the killer app for the fingerprint sensor isn't unlocking, or mobile payments, or even not having to put in a password to install apps. To me the killer app is how my sister uses it on her S6- as the master password for LastPass!

I am dying to get a fingerprint sensor on my next phone for that reason, too many of my important passwords for websites or apps are crap. But I am too lazy to start memorizing new long passwords, and if you use LastPass with a crap master password it isn't even worth doing. But the way Android uses the password scanner plus LastPass I could fortify my entire online universe overnight.

But just like with NFC, Apple won't let programs use the reader for this purpose because it is psyco about apps getting access to password fields. I wish they would open up things more.

1password does this on iOS and supposedly lastpass does too (though I haven't checked yet. Read about it today.)

 

[Aikouka]

As for apple they are 100 percent gimick and phones for those that dont know computers well. And thats fine, those people need phones. As well as the people who are computer savvy but just like apple...for some reason.

Honestly, it's remarks like this that really annoy me. The fact that I've ever gotten any grief as an engineer for owning an iPhone pisses me off. It's such stupid elitism that has no place in an intelligent setting. Also, just because I have an iPhone and know a good amount about computers doesn't mean that I "just like apple...for some reason". :|

If a fingerprint sensor is that important to you, then you definitely belong in the iphone category. They're not secure, and enabling it drains the battery so its not even worth using.

They aren't secure because someone went all "Mission Impossible" on someone's fingerprint to try to hack into one? I'm pretty sure someone could hack a poorly created Android lock pattern too. I'd also like to see any evidence on this purported battery drain, as I've never noticed any substantial change from using it.

Now, that completely ignores the fact that you've probably never even used it or used it enough to give it a proper criticism. TouchID was the sole reason why I upgraded off-contract to an iPhone 5S from an iPhone 5. Was there every any buyer's remorse? Heck no. TouchID simplified so many aspects of my phone usage. Honestly, not having to type my really long password into 1Password was a great thing just by itself. I'd say the only negative is that more companies should really consider adding it to their devices. For example, with Amazon, I can use TouchID, but for Best Buy, I cannot.

1password does this on iOS

Yep. I use it all the time. It even works when you call it up in Safari. Also, according to their FAQ, LastPass supports it too.