Switching to i7 920 from E8400. E8400 bottlenecks the 5970/BFBC2, benchmarking...

[biostud]

moving from a x2-3800+@2.5Ghz -> i5-750@3.6Ghz with my 8800GT has made a world of difference. DoW II and CoH has gone from stuttering to completely fluid, so in my case I was very CPU limited. My guess would be ~3x fps. But I was also going from a 4.5 YO system.

 

[suntox]

the link was http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.aspx?i=3510&p=3

i actualy changed my mind. my asus p5k premium mobo accepts the q9550 which has basicaly almost same performance in games as the i7 when overclocked (and compared to overclocked i7). so i will go with that and save the money.

the benchmarks all show that you only gain up to 15% (and usualy less, sometimes even q9550 wins) with an i7 compared to the q9550 (need to take i7 turbo mode into account or it appears faster then it actualy is).

rather spend that much money for the next generation of cpus which is due next year. and now i get close to same perfomance of i7 for like 200 bucks. 15% more fps for 800 bucks doesnt realy make sense. thats 80 instead of 70 fps...

@OP you also got a P5K ...

Trident is spot on and nevermind a full blown wolfdale - a lightly OCed E6600 would do the trick zzz

thats a grafics card bottleneck. use a benchmark with as low resolution as possible (not 1920x1080) and minimum grafic settings in order to compare cpus.

edit2: LOL, just finished reading page 2, and you are going for same cpu already anyway or you realy go for used 920?

 

[MrK6]

Has there been any definitive test or review that has shown if and how much BC2 benefits from a quad core CPU? One of the thing that strikes me about some of these benchmarks is the lack of detail on how/what/where they test the game for their numbers. For instance, like most multiplayer games, I'd imagine multiplayer BC2 stresses the CPU a lot more than single player.

 

[NumericalMethods]

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For instance, like most multiplayer games, I'd imagine multiplayer BC2 stresses the CPU a lot more than single player.

This is definitely the case I have found with this particular game.

 

[Apocalypse23]

For instance, like most multiplayer games, I'd imagine multiplayer BC2 stresses the CPU a lot more than single player.

Most definitely bc2 stresses the hell out of a cpu in multi-player. All tests so far have been in single player I believe.

 

[Apocalypse23]

**UPDATE**

The place I ordered the Diamond 5970 reported that they were sold out, so that has been cancelled.

I've now ordered a SAPPHIRE HD 5970 OC edition - $758 CAD with shipping and taxes...(yeah still better than two 5870s)

Also, I've bought the i7 920/6 gb ddr3 1600 8-8-8-24 memory - $360 CAD with shipping

Items remaining:

Heatsink: Scythe Mugen 2 REV.B. HeatPipes CPU Heatsink LGA1366 1156 775 AM3 AM2+ AM2 754 939 940 120MM Fan $36.97

Mobo: Deciding...
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[Axon]

I'll give you this, you certainly committed to maxing this game out

 

[aigomorla]

Apocalypse23 give the evga SLI LE a try.

My personal recommendation, and it holds a lot of weight on intel products.

 

[jaggerwild]

I'd suggest the Mirco from EVGA and an I5 but you already have an I7 so.... I like the move either way!!I don't have that game yet but everybody else does and seems to like it.

 

[Apocalypse23]

I'll give you this, you certainly committed to maxing this game out

Apocalypse23 give the evga SLI LE a try.

My personal recommendation, and it holds a lot of weight on intel products.

I decided to play it safe and go for something newer, offers USB3.0/sata 3/is cheaper/has 4 pciex16 slots/offers tri sli/tri crossfire/has a 3 year warranty/has great oc capability...

all in all while saving the most I could, I have decided to opt for the all new Gigabyte X58A-UD3R ATX LGA1366 X58 DDR3 4PCI-E SATA3 USB3.0 Sound GLAN CrossFireX SLI Motherboard--$209 CAD

Thanks tho

Now it's time to wait for the parts to come in and build this beast!..

When everything is in place I'll be trying a:
5970 single setup
5970+5870 tri Crossfire setup (physically dual Crossfire)
5970+5870+5850 Quad Crossfire setup (physically tri crossfire)

After that I'll be the first to get rid of the 5870

 

[Axon]

ROFL, post some pics when it's all said and done please.

 

[tvdang7]

http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/battlefield_bad_company_2_tuning_guide,1.html

wow at that cpu graph

 

[JAG87]

If you did all this for BC2, I hope you are aware that all ATI 5000 cards have brutal map load times because of a dx11 shader issue with the drivers.

And I have no idea what the point of a 5970 is at your resolution. A 5870 would easily provide more than 40 fps completely maxed out, and bring your fps up to vsync with HBAO or bloom turned off (bloom looks bad anyway).

You spent 3x more on your GPU than your monitor, which is retarded IMO.

 

[Makaveli]

wow at that cpu graph

Ya this game loves quadcores

 

[Makaveli]

If you did all this for BC2, I hope you are aware that all ATI 5000 cards have brutal map load times because of a dx11 shader issue with the drivers.

And I have no idea what the point of a 5970 is at your resolution. A 5870 would easily provide more than 40 fps completely maxed out, and bring your fps up to vsync with HBAO or bloom turned off (bloom looks bad anyway).

You spent 3x more on your GPU than your monitor, which is retarded IMO.

lol there is alot of things about this that don't make sense.

 

[Axon]

Team green needs its say, I suppose.

 

[Apocalypse23]

If you did all this for BC2, I hope you are aware that all ATI 5000 cards have brutal map load times because of a dx11 shader issue with the drivers.

And I have no idea what the point of a 5970 is at your resolution. A 5870 would easily provide more than 40 fps completely maxed out, and bring your fps up to vsync with HBAO or bloom turned off (bloom looks bad anyway).

You spent 3x more on your GPU than your monitor, which is retarded IMO.

lol there is alot of things about this that don't make sense.

When everything is tested out right, I'll know if I get 70fps a single 5870 on a i7 @3.8-4 ghz setup, at high settings, 2x aa 16x af, if not, then I'll have to use the 5970..

What I'm looking for is a minimum of 70 fps in all games using a video card at high settings, and chances are a 5870 won't suffice...some of you can't seem to tell the difference between 40fps and 70fps so you can stick to whatever frames you like, I personally like 70-120 fps while gaming at maxed out settings (AA filtering can be minimal). This test should hopefully give an insight to a lot of issues regarding this game.

Also, I don't think I have anything to lose in this situation..

From reading numerous reviews, I need a 5970, it's the sound decision for future-proofing.

On another note, does anyone know how to effectively guage fps max and min and average while gaming and have a program report that back to you?

 

[zagood]

On another note, does anyone know how to effectively guage fps max and min and average while gaming and have a program report that back to you?

Rivatuner is about the least intrusive, but I think the statistics server only works in DX9. FRAPS has some overhead but works up to DX11.

 

[JAG87]

When everything is tested out right, I'll know if I get 70fps a single 5870 on a i7 @3.8-4 ghz setup, at high settings, 2x aa 16x af, if not, then I'll have to use the 5970..

What I'm looking for is a minimum of 70 fps in all games using a video card at high settings, and chances are a 5870 won't suffice...some of you can't seem to tell the difference between 40fps and 70fps so you can stick to whatever frames you like, I personally like 70-120 fps while gaming at maxed out settings (AA filtering can be minimal). This test should hopefully give an insight to a lot of issues regarding this game.

Also, I don't think I have anything to lose in this situation..

From reading numerous reviews, I need a 5970, it's the sound decision for future-proofing.

On another note, does anyone know how to effectively guage fps max and min and average while gaming and have a program report that back to you?

Believe me I can tell the difference between 40 and 70 fps, but there isn't much sense in anything higher than 60 fps, if you care about image quality you should be playing with vsync. At 1920x1080, you can get BC2 to 60 fps on a 5870, easily.

I'm not implying the 5970 was a bad choice, I'm just saying it's silly to overspend on the GPU like that to max out one game. A 5870 is more than enough. HBAO just owns your performance, while it looks pretty and all it's just not worth the performance hit. Bloom pierces my retinas and again rapes your performance, and the game looks better without both, at 0.50 contrast and brightness.

Lastly, you can use fraps to benchmark your game, it records min, avg, max and frame times, which is important in figuring out if you have microstuttering, which you shouldn't if you have vsync on. But if you play with vsync off, 80 fps on a 5970 will feel worse than 50 on a 5870.

 

[NumericalMethods]

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80 fps on a 5970 will feel worse than 50 on a 5870.

qft

 

[tweakboy]

wow apocalpyse you have like 10 rigs. Did you network them all together, Im sure you did... very nice m8

 

[Makaveli]

maybe my math is off but I count 4 rigs in his sig =P

 

[Candymancan21]

You must have HBAO enabled. Turn that off and your FPS will go up 20 average.. HBAO doesnt really do much in this game anyway all it does it make the shadows seem even more realistic and unless you have 2 screen shots side by side you wont even see it in the game.. Trust me..

I play at 1680x1050 with 4xAA 16xAF, all maximum HBAO turned off and im getting like 45-60fps average.. Usually im in the mid to lower 50's. The E8400 runs this game just fine.. at least mine does. I guess if you REALLLY wanted HBAO then yes a upgrade is needed but TBH like i said i dont notice any diff with it on or off. Granted i can tell the diff between 40 and 50fps and 50 and 60, the differance tho is minor.

Also if your having vsync issues in the game you need to change the resolution once you join a match and then change it back and vsync will work then.. Its some gay ass bug in the game. You seem dead set on doing this upgrade so i guess you might as well do it.. I used to be like you along time ago until i wised up lol. Having HBAO enabled i dont notice at all when killing people so i keep it off if its gives me 20 more fps. Overclocking my Video card from 900/1000 (stock for the oc edition) to 945/1055 gave me 6 more fps on top. Obviously its the video card that gives you the performance boosts not the cpu unless its a really old old cpu.

My brother plays this game on a

Opteron 165 @ 2.6ghz
2GB DDR1
Ati 4850

He plays on the lowest details and frankly even after messing around with low and medium and high you dont notice much of a diff in how the game looks even when graphics are on low.. I garuntee you tho he would kill any one of you 20x over b4 you touch him in the game. The problem with ppl nowadays if they rely on graphics for a good experiance or to make them play better.. My brother plays with 30fps on the lowest settings and his KD ratio is 5:2 That 5k kills and 2k deaths.

 

[Dadofamunky]

How much is your core budget?

I Figure your gonna require motherboard cpu and ram.

Personally im a fan of premium tier'd boards.
But my recommendations are these:

1. eVGA E762 Classified. (don't get the E760, i hear its plagued with issues.)
2. Asus P6T7
3. Asus R2E <after this i would avoid Asus>
4. Giggy X58A-UD7
5. eVGA X58 SLI LE E757 <--- i heard its a very excellent board.

Ram:
Slowest id look at is 1600mhz, you wont really need the 1800+mhz stuff, however it would be nice if you intend on pushing your cpu higher then 4ghz.

And your i7 @ 4ghz on 4 cores 8 threads, will be a lot of new doors opening up to you.
Also the X58 platform has better multi gpu scaling then all the other platforms.

You will need a large class sink to keep your cpu temps in check also.
A great power supply is also recomended.

Now there's advice you can believe in!!!!

**UPDATE**

The place I ordered the Diamond 5970 reported that they were sold out, so that has been cancelled.

I've now ordered a SAPPHIRE HD 5970 OC edition - $758 CAD with shipping and taxes...(yeah still better than two 5870s)

Also, I've bought the i7 920/6 gb ddr3 1600 8-8-8-24 memory - $360 CAD with shipping

Items remaining:

Heatsink: Scythe Mugen 2 REV.B. HeatPipes CPU Heatsink LGA1366 1156 775 AM3 AM2+ AM2 754 939 940 120MM Fan $36.97

Mobo: Deciding...
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And just think, in two years all this will be hopelessly obsolete! My 4850 is a paperweight now.

 

[Apocalypse23]

And just think, in two years all this will be hopelessly obsolete! My 4850 is a paperweight now.

That's the saddest part about expensive upgrades, they never last long enough...I don't know if it's a hobby or an addiction, but being a PC enthusiast we get to do these crazy things every once a while