Switching to the dark side....

[AMD64Blondie]

I've been an AMD fanboy for years...

Now I made a deal with the devil.

Yup,finally switched to Intel.
Running a quad-core Intel Core i5 4670.
(It's mounted in a Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H motherboard.)

This thing is quiet,and runs crazy cool,even on the tiny stock heatsink.
(86 degrees F idle,as reported by AIDA64.)

I'm impressed.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Welcome to the club. Please check your soul in the lobby, there's a two drink minimum, and the first band starts at 7:15.

I miss my Athlon XP a great deal, but it really is kind of freakish what Intel can do in <85w that AMD can barely pull off with double that.

 

[AMD64Blondie]

Yeah...84W on my new i5 as opposed to 125W on my old AMD FX 8150.

Quite startling.

 

[Saylick]

Speaking of the dark side, once you go black...

 

[richierich1212]

I switched a few years back with a 2500K and haven't really looked back besides getting a couple of Llano laptops. Hoping that AMD pulls a rabbit put of a hat in the near future.

 

[CHADBOGA]

It has always amazed me that people can associate morality with their choice of CPU.

Does this sophisticated form of morality also apply to your watch, your camera, your TV, your car, your clothing items?

And if not, why not?

 

[richierich1212]

It has always amazed me that people can associate morality with their choice of CPU.

Does this sophisticated form of morality also apply to your watch, your camera, your TV, your car, your clothing items?

And if not, why not?

All of those items mentioned have more than two manufacturers. Have you been content with Intel the past several years? AMD hasn't been able to push Intel enough.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

I've been an AMD fanboy for years...

Now I made a deal with the devil.

Yup,finally switched to Intel.
Running a quad-core Intel Core i5 4670.
(It's mounted in a Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H motherboard.)

This thing is quiet,and runs crazy cool,even on the tiny stock heatsink.
(86 degrees F idle,as reported by AIDA64.)

I'm impressed.

I'd thought about building an AMD system at some time over the last 14 years, but could never make the swing. There are some good AMD systems out there. In fact, for the thermal footprint, there was a time when AMD beat Intel on the thermal wattage.

I hope you like your system. It sounds as though you do.

It's interesting, when there's an effective duopoly in a niche product, how the biggest of the two or the "original" CPU-maker gets treated as the bad ol' monopolist, and the consumer is going to take a stand against "the power."

Truth is, Intel is attempting to address or accommodate the mobile market, they won't quit until they've shrunk the die to a 5nm lithography. So it is good that you think the thermal properties of the chip are fine or "just great."

 

[CHADBOGA]

All of those items mentioned have more than two manufacturers. Have you been content with Intel the past several years? AMD hasn't been able to push Intel enough.

And what does any of that have to do with "morality"?

 

[sxr7171]

Athlon 64 was great. But it was downhill from there.

 

[richierich1212]

And what does any of that have to do with "morality"?

Many associate Intel as being the more "evil, big bad guy, devil, etc..." but there aren't morals involved with CPU choice. People saying, " joining the dark side, deal with the devil" are just fooling around and using those figures of speech.

 

[Xpage]

Athlon 64 was great. But it was downhill from there.

Truth sadly.


I always hope the next AMD arch will be competitive with intel. I don't want a blow out, just to be competitive. Usually they are with intel's X-2 generation, but that isn't good enough.

I have high hopes for Beema, wanting to update my Brazos HTPC soon.

 

[escrow4]

There isn't a choice anymore anyway. Unless you really really fit into the niche of the APU there is zero reason to buy FX. AMDs CPUs are one step away from the cemetery.

 

[BSim500]

LOL. Intel really aren't that bad. I "flip-flopped" between them for years dating way back to a 16MHz 286 chip (and that included Via, SGS Thompson & Cyrix 6x86 CPU's over the years too). Last 3 AMD chips I owned were Athlon XP, Athlon 64 & X2. Then switched to i3-530 then i5-3570. Haven't looked back since simply due to up to 70% higher single-threaded perf (which isn't just about running older games / apps faster, but rather more consistent performance overall), much lower power draw and much higher perf-per-watt (no more unwanted room heaters in summer)!

I hope AMD do come back in the game, but they really need a jump up in process & much higher single-threaded perf. 8x weak cores & 130-220w TDP's just don't do it for me.

 

[ShintaiDK]

All of those items mentioned have more than two manufacturers. Have you been content with Intel the past several years? AMD hasn't been able to push Intel enough.

The world wants performance/watt. And there have been great advancements there.

 

[cytg111]

I've been an AMD fanboy for years...

Now I made a deal with the devil.

Yup,finally switched to Intel.
Running a quad-core Intel Core i5 4670.
(It's mounted in a Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H motherboard.)

This thing is quiet,and runs crazy cool,even on the tiny stock heatsink.
(86 degrees F idle,as reported by AIDA64.)

I'm impressed.

Made a deal with the devil but did not get devils canyon. Dude, thats weak!
And congrats on departing from fandom and arriving at sense-dom, we welcome you ... Congrats on the build.

 

[KingFatty]

And what does any of that have to do with "morality"?

I agree that "dark side" implies morals. Maybe instead compare it to joining the Galactic Empire in Star Wars - you could still have good morals and be part of the Empire, right?

 

[jhu]

Actually, switching to Intel would be considered going to the light side.

 

[DrMrLordX]

And what does any of that have to do with "morality"?

Some people - notably AMD diehards - still associate Intel with anti-competitive practices due to their deals that they cut with OEMs back in the K8/Netburst days.

 

[AMD64Blondie]

I know this is actually a complaint about the motherboard,but hear me out.

Why did Intel put only 4 SATA ports on the H97 chipset?
It's stupid.

 

[SAAA]

So were do we put VIA in this whole Dark/Light side (admittely very Star Warsy) thing?

 

[Haserath]

I know this is actually a complaint about the motherboard,but hear me out.

Why did Intel put only 4 SATA ports on the H97 chipset?
It's stupid.

To make the motherboards cheaper. I only use two sata ports now, and eventually, I may be able to use none at all.

So were do we put VIA in this whole Dark/Light side (admittely very Star Warsy) thing?

They're jar jar binks.

 

[MongGrel]

Welcome to the real world.

 

[ShintaiDK]

I know this is actually a complaint about the motherboard,but hear me out.

Why did Intel put only 4 SATA ports on the H97 chipset?
It's stupid.

H97 got 6 SATA ports. if you only got 4, then its your mobo maker.

 

[AMD64Blondie]

Thing is..I have 6 internal hard drives(and a add-on SATA card with 4 more ports..).Plus my Blu-ray burner,so that makes 7 SATA devices.

I'll look around for where Gigabyte hid the other 2 SATA ports.

It was pretty late last night when my tech friend Lowell got my rebuild hooked up,so he might have missed something.

(I have a PC Power & Cooling Turbo-cool 1200(80 mm fan version) powering my PC,so there's a lot of cables to sort thru..)