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ViRGE

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- I had thoughts on Four. Four is not four anymore as you noted but not in super bad terms with the Raza crew. I was not under impression that he was outcast. They did help him get into power after all, right? And gave him a "I respect your decision" send-off.
Ryo burnt any and all bridges when he tried to blow up a station full of innocent people and stole the Raza's Blink Drive.
- What happened to the "other timeline"? I seem to remember a craft hitching a ride. And for some reason, I thought it a possibility that Four is from the other timeline.
It's still out there. We'll undoubtedly find out more this season.
- Does the Ferrous corp know that it didn't blow up the station? Who knows what?
From Ferrous's side, it's immaterial. They were purposely trying to start a war, so they got their wish. Though for what it's worth, I think everyone else besides the Raza crew (and Truffault) thinks that Ferrous did it.
- "Creepy Lady (Alicia Reynaud) from S2 is still out there." Who? My google search was not as immediate gratification as was "MacGuffins". lol
She's the woman who tried to have Five captured (and called her Pumpkin) http://darkmatter.wikia.com/wiki/Alicia_Reynaud
 

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This week on Sci-Fi Friday: The Bus Comes Back with Vengeance

Dark Matter S03E03: I have to be blunt: I'm starting to wonder whether there are production problems behind the scenes of this show. That, or the showrunner has a secret desire to get the show cancelled.

The series is only 29 episodes in, and they've already killed off or bused more than half of the regulars. One and Six are gone, so is Nyx. Meanwhile with regards to more minor characters, Devon and Tabor have been sent away with little fanfare. The only remaining members of the original crew are Two, Three, Five, and the Android. With Four/Ryo having converted to the dark side. For an ensemble show, this is a problem.

This episode alone they've bused the always hilarious David Hewlett (Tabor), and Roger frelling Cross (Six). Roger Cross is a veteran actor, and as a result I don't think there's any shame in saying that he was the best actor among the original core 7. Furthermore he was the last black actor, so in the last two episodes they've disposed of both of the show's regular black actors. There's absolutely no good way to interpret this. And make no mistake: they clearly have crossed off Cross, as this episode made sure to bring back the General in order to wrap up all of Six's loose plot threads all in one go.

As for the episode itself, it was interesting at times. The rise of former corporate colonies as independent worlds is a neat seasonal arc. And there's plenty of conflict there as clearly not everyone is on the same page on how to do that. Having neither side trust each other, resulting in Six brokering (and later enforcing) a peace deal makes for good TV.

But I can't help but shake the idea that the A plot was already written, and then someone realized they had to put Six on the Space Bus. Because the episode is essentially done 75% of the way through, the last bit with Six leaving and eliminating the General feels very tacked on.

Meanwhile since we've been getting rid of characters, the Raza has picked up a pair of new actors passengers. which for now we'll call notDavidHewlett and nuNyx. The former is smarmy and not at all a fighter. Meanwhile the latter is conveniently a drop-in replacement for Nyx as far as fighting goes. They don't get any real character development here since this episode was a send-off for Six. But they have a very tough act to follow in Roger Cross.
 
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ViRGE

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Okay, I must have missed something because I don't remember seeing David Hewlett on the show in ages.
Their job handler, Tabor. He is a recurring character that's in a couple of episodes per season.
 

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Meanwhile since we've been getting rid of characters, the Raza has picked up a pair of new actors passengers. which for now we'll call notDavidHewlett and nuNyx. The former is smarmy and not at all a fighter. Meanwhile the latter is conveniently a drop-in replacement for Nyx as far as fighting goes. They don't get any real character development here since this episode was a send-off for Six. But they have a very tough act to follow in Roger Cross.
I think they're trying to follow TWC and GoT approach to character development and destruction - keep a handful of core players that are popular with the audience and then do a standard rotation for everyone else.

Maybe I missed something but didn't the Razarians basically f*** the colonists by killing the general and then leaving? Or is the idea that the corporation isn't going to be sending any reinforcements so it really doesn't matter.
 

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Their job handler, Tabor. He is a recurring character that's in a couple of episodes per season.
IMDB says he was on 1 episode last season. Was he mentioned in this last episode?



Side note, but man did my opinion of his Stargate character change. He went from one of the most annoying characters on TV to one of my favorites.

Side note to my side note, but I never finished Stargate Atlantis. When SciFi canceled the series in order to start a new Stargate, I quit watching then and there because I was so frustrated. So I never saw the ending nor any of Universe. Maybe one day I'll go back and watch through the whole thing (Atlantis, not Universe).
 

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I have to be blunt: I'm starting to wonder whether there are production problems behind the scenes of this show. That, or the showrunner has a secret desire to get the show cancelled...<snip>...But I can't help but shake the idea that the A plot was already written, and then someone realized they had to put Six on the Space Bus. Because the episode is essentially done 75% of the way through, the last bit with Six leaving and eliminating the General feels very tacked on.
Yes. It was a disjointed episode. It wasn't that there were too many plot lines but it was very jolting from scene to scene.
The series is only 29 episodes in, and they've already killed off or bused more than half of the regulars...<snip>... For an ensemble show, this is a problem.
Only a problem because of show budget or actors commitment maybe. I find the story is still intact though. And I'm glad the blink drive is sidelined.
This episode alone they've bused the always hilarious David Hewlett (Tabor),.
Yes but not a loss to the show.
and Roger frelling Cross (Six). Roger Cross is a veteran actor...<snip>...clearly have crossed off Cross
Yes. He was extremely good at being annoying. But I think he will return in other episodes. Plot wraps were employed to shift how he's used in the future. The colonists are in good hands with Six. (@ Charmonium)
notDavidHewlett and nuNyx...<snip>... But they have a very tough act to follow in Roger Cross.
Yeah, I'm not impressed with the acting from these two new one's. I approve of the new names.

I would like to note that the CGI is very third rate too. I'm waiting for the shark to come out of the billowing explosion. Some scenes are repeated too often. They did one setting introduction sequence and reuse it over and over. It detracts from the apparent quality.
I am enjoying the story so I can forgive a lot. How much can I forgive? I also watch TWD and FTWD, so ...
 

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I think they're trying to follow TWC and GoT approach to character development and destruction - keep a handful of core players that are popular with the audience and then do a standard rotation for everyone else.
I really hope not. There's a reason I don't watch those shows. But then we'll always have Killjoys, at least.

Maybe I missed something but didn't the Razarians basically f*** the colonists by killing the general and then leaving? Or is the idea that the corporation isn't going to be sending any reinforcements so it really doesn't matter.
The corporation won't be sending reinforcements. The corporate war means they're too busy to deal with outlying colonies. Which is why Six pushed them to declare their independence.

IMDB says he was on 1 episode last season. Was he mentioned in this last episode?
Yes, he was mentioned in the "Previously On" bit, and the Raza crew thought they would be picking him up.

Side note, but man did my opinion of his Stargate character change. He went from one of the most annoying characters on TV to one of my favorites.

Side note to my side note, but I never finished Stargate Atlantis. When SciFi canceled the series in order to start a new Stargate, I quit watching then and there because I was so frustrated. So I never saw the ending nor any of Universe. Maybe one day I'll go back and watch through the whole thing (Atlantis, not Universe).
You owe it to yourself to finish Atlantis. It's not perfect, but it's good. And while the show didn't get the sendoff it truly deserved, it did get a decent enough sendoff in the final episode.

I would like to note that the CGI is very third rate too. I'm waiting for the shark to come out of the billowing explosion. Some scenes are repeated too often. They did one setting introduction sequence and reuse it over and over. It detracts from the apparent quality.
The CGI is the other factor that makes me think there are issues behind the scenes, namely a budget cut. The show has always been a bit shoe-string and doesn't make heavy use of CGI. But the last couple of episodes in particular have been barer than usual. They'll pulling the Star Trek TNG "show the ship fight as a 2D tactical projection" trick, which is what you do when you want to avoid having to produce the actual combat sequence.
 
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Really like this one. Best of the season.
Old story told as an Original story. Well done.
Showed us there is so much more story they want to tell. Please don't cancel us.
Android is a very good actor too.
 

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I think her last gig was on Lost Girl. Another Firestone production iirc. Both have a familiar feel.

Yeah, they did a good job with the time loop theme. It wasn't tedious at the beginning like a lot of them are. And I loved what they did with Five and the Android toward the end. I especially liked the part about the fall of the house of Ishida. That sounds like it could be something we see soon.
 

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This week on Sci-Fi Friday: Let's do the time warp again! (and again, and again, and...)

Dark Matter S03E04: Next to time travel shenanigans and the planet of hats, one of the biggest tropes/cliches is the Groundhog Day plot, where the hero gets stuck in a time loop. And that's not to knock on the concept: these stories inherently open themselves up to having fun as the hero can do all sorts of wacky hijinks and get away with it since time will just reset tomorrow. Doubleplus so in a sci-fi setting because then you can have it caused by some sort of technical device, and then subject the least-brainy member of the team to the loop so that they're stuck trying to prove its existence to the skeptical resident nerd.

Large parts of this episode are by-the-book, and I don't think that's a bad thing. This is just a fun concept, and Three is by far the best character to subject to it, not only because he's not the tech guru, but because he has a very distinct level of genre savviness that the others really don't. So the episode can immediately kick off with him realizing he's in a loop, and be equally capable of "resetting" it at-will.

The twists for this episode are a bit predictable, but none the less interesting. Of course there's the first assassin that Ryo sent out, who can phase through walls and spends a surprisingly long period of time running around in his underwear. Then there's the emotional hook with Sarah, Three's long-lost flame who is now stuck in a computer. I have to admit I don't care for the latter, as there's no point in getting invested in it. You know it's going to end poorly.:|

Speaking of things I don't like, I wouldn't mind if they did a catch & release on notDavidHewlett (Adrian). It's like they decided to bring Wil Wheaton's character on full time, but couldn't get Wil. He has the same annoying smarminess, and while that's great in a villain, it's annoying in a hero.

The big stinger for this episode that that in attempting to stop the time loop, the Android instead jumps into the future. Where it's a bad thing, followed by a bad thing, followed by a bad thing. I don't even know what to make of it. It's certainly unexpected, but I'm not sure it serves a purpose? It's not as if the show doesn't already have plenty of things going on. So throwing another mystery or three into the mix seems redundant. In any case, we have been given a preview of things to come, I guess.

Meanwhile it's admittedly a bit cynical, but I feel like this episode is intentionally throwing fans a bone after killing off Six (we just killed off the best actor, so let's give the fans a time loop episode!). Which takes away from the episode a bit. Dark Matter as a whole needed a breather here; the fact that it's not dark, gloomy, and SGU is what makes it work, and the last 3 episodes have all been very heavy. But I'd still rather prefer to have Six back, and the situation continues to leave a bad taste in my mouth.

Finally, I don't think it's possible to have a time loop episode like this without comparing it to the granddaddy of all sci-fi time loop episodes, which is SG-1's Window of Opportunity. Which coincidentally enough was also written by showrunner and writer of this episode, Joseph Mallozzi. Unfortunately DM's take isn't quite as strong IWoO was a 5th season episode, benefiting from the by-then strong SG-1 characterization) and Stargate lends itself to better gags. Though Three getting himself repeatedly clobbered by Solara (nuNyx) is not without its merits.
 

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Friendly reminder: along with the continuation of Dark Matter season 3, the third season of Killjoys also starts tonight.
 
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Friendly reminder: along with the continuation of Dark Matter season 3, the third season of Killjoys also starts tonight.

Cool, killjoys was good just thought DM was a tad better mostly because of the android
 

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DVR is set.
Edit:
Saw DM, didn't see KJ yet.
- DM effects were much better this ep.
- Android is sooo versatile. I wonder if she left the "upgrade" for the security android or not.
- Enjoyed the Ryza story line very much.
- Four's storyline is so odd. Hard to care for it either way.
 
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Alright, back from vacation. Time to catch-up on my sci-fi.

This week (and last week) on Sci-Fi Friday: It's us against the world.

Dark Matter S03E05: Dark Matter was in top form for this episode, which is fantastic since it now needs to share the Friday spotlight with KIlljoys. It was the obligatory focus episode for the new characters, with Adrian (aka notDavidHewlett) getting the bulk of that focus. And it was put to good use.

This may seem harsher than intended, but the show's moral compass has always felt a bit adrift since One was written out. Two, Five, and Six are good people at heart, but One was the only person who wore it on his shoulder for all to see. So when he left, the show lost that drive. Now with Adrian, it's essentially brought back that kind of character trait (perhaps not quite as neat & tidy) and mixed it with some comic relief. Which works. The comic relief in particular isn't fantastic - it's not like the Android in that regard - but it works well enough.

The show has him starting from an interesting place: all this time he thought he was some bigwig working for Tabor, but instead everyone has been screwing with him in one way or another. Tabor hung him out to dry, his co-worker he set out to rescue just wanted to use him to get at some of Tabor's stuff, and even the crew of the Raza isn't above screwing with him in a less-than-malicious manner. So despite his connections and supposed ability to wheel & deal, he's very much a greenhorn. It could make for a good character with some additional fleshing out.

Solara meanwhile gets a bit more focus as well, but not a ton. What this episode does do is establish her badass credentials, and why she deserves to hang with the crew of the Raza: she's a martial arts-trained prioress who has no problem putting her skills to use to get revenge.

Otherwise, this episode was primarily a good old fashioned scavenger hunt, which is plenty of fun. Tabor left quite a mess, to say the least. Plus Android Antics are the best antics, and is always good that the actress gets to break out from that very rigid role now and then (though I was surprised she didn't rough up Three again, since that's been a running gag).

As for the B-plot, we have Emperor Ryo. Ryo is having a bad time. He's losing a war, he's getting conflicting advice, the crew of the Raza still has the blink drive he wants, and now someone is trying to kill him. It was implied that Ryo had trouble fitting in with the royal court before the start of the series, and now that he's back he's not doing any better. Each week gets worse and worse for him. Though it's hard to argue that he doesn't have it coming. He may be powerful, but he's a crappy leader and it's catching up with him.

Finally, we have the mystery of Ferrius's Agent Zero, which I'm assuming is some kind of chemical agent. Something had to go wrong with Six's plan to unite the independent colonies, and this appears to be it, whatever it is...

Dark Matter S03E06: Compared to S03E05, I don't have quite as many nice things to say about this episode. It wasn't bad, but it didn't all click, either.

So we finally know who the Raza brought back with them from the alternate universe: pretty much everyone besides AU One. We have AU Portia, AU Boone, AU Tash, AU Wexler, and even AU Android! And now that they're in another universe, they seem content to raise hell by posing as the Raza crew.

We knew that at least one AU character would be making the trip over, but I wasn't expecting quite so many of them. I really don't know how I feel about it. There's not really a great reason for the entire AU Raza gang to be over here, and while the actors do a marvelous job of acting for two, it feels like a plot thread too many. Or maybe just something that is distracting about the whole thing? Having your doppelgangers running around should be funny, and at times it is (how to tell Two from AU Portia: the cleavage). But it's not as entertaining as it should be.

On the plus side, watching each side one-up each other when crossing each other was fun to see, especially with Five coming in at the end. She's the X factor that separates the two timelines, after all, so having her one-up the AU crew makes sense. And one can't help but love the AU Android shooting AU Tash because she's being a backstabbing moron. Both versions of the Android are loyal, but it's especially heartwarming with the AU crew since the rest of them are scumbags. Throwing in Truffaut is also a good call, since Tori Higginson does a great job being cross.

And poor Ryo. Last week was bad, this week was worse. He's lost a warship to the AU Raza crew, he's still losing his war, he's losing his grasp on power/the people, and he's taking it all very personally. It's a bit of a trainwreck, which makes it fun to watch. But I appreciate that it's the B-plot and he's clearly a villain, so it's uplifting to see him fail.

The downside to this episode? The crew of the Raza has turned into a damn revolving door. Just when we get to know Adrian and Solara, they're being pushed out the door again. At this point I'm at a loss for why. The inconsistent nature of the main cast is seriously driving me mad, and while I'm sure they'll be back, if this is more than a one-to-two episode thing, it means my focus and time has been wasted caring the least bit about these characters. And I don't even know what the hell was going on with having Five kiss Adrian (even without the absurd Dawson casting going on with Five, she's still way younger than Adrian's actor).

Finally, I'm finding it hard-to-impossible to be invested in anything going on with Three's subplot with Sarah. We all know it's going to end poorly - the only question is how - so why waste the energy caring about it?

Killjoys S3E01 & S3E02: The first two episodes of this season may as well be a proper two-parter, so that's just how I'll review it.

Killjoys has been my favorite of the two Friday shows, and for good reason: they never cease having fun with their situation, even when the fate of the J hangs in the balance. Having your leads snarking at each other all the time is probably a cliche these days (or at least a trope), but it's still amusing to watch.

We left off Season 2 with Dutch declaring war against the Hullen and her doppelganger, Aneela. And this is right where we pick up in season 3. The Killjoys know how to defeat the Hullen with the black goo, but now they need the materials and manpower to actually get the job done.

One thing that surprised me here was that until now, the show hasn't attempted to put a number on just how many Level 6 agents there were. Well, now we have an answer: 436. The RAC is shown to be big, but given each one of them was a superhuman killing machine, that's a lot of Hullen agents.

Otherwise, Dutch & Davin's plot in the first two episodes is pretty straightforward. And by straightforward I mean thouroughly entertaining. The whole team taking down a hive of Hullen was delightful to watch, and the kind of action that has helped to establish this show. Episode 2's nerd squad wasn't quite as captivating, but clearly it's meant to setup a plot thread for later this season. Meanwhile, see if you can ID the Continuum alum.

As for the B-plot, we have John in the midst of his efforts to run away from home, joined by Clara. Or what was Clara, at least.

On a production note here, Clara's actress (Stephanie Leonidas) was unavailable for the show this season since she landed a role on Snatch. As a result, the writers had to rejigger the plot to account for this, and thus we get Ollie. Given that this was all setup in season 2, I feel like the fact that the writers set this in motion before ensuring they'd have Leonidas for season 3 was an ill-planned move. Still, you work with what you have.

The core purpose of Johnny's trip was to further flesh out the Hackmods, and it did a very good job of that. Dedicating so much time to the subject meant that the show could showcase a whole slew of different types of Hackmods, as well as further nailing down their culture and purpose. In short, they're abducted humans who are turned into superhuman slaves by The Factory, and they don't like it one bit. Most are still stuck in servitude, while others have escaped and are trying to secure their freedom. In short, they will one day be important allies for Dutch's war.

And in a cool bit of casting, did you notice how several of the hackmods had obvious prosthetics? Well the producers used actual handicapped actors for several of the hackmods, including the bartender and the skin-stealing psychopath (Niko), rather than doing CGI/costuming tricks like with Clara/Ollie. It's a great way to include actors who otherwise can't easily land more regular roles, and it makes their hackmod prostheses look very real since they are in fact replacement limbs. So real, in fact, that Niko's actress (Viktoria Modesta) already has a pointed prosthetic leg (though AFAIK, she hasn't impaled anyone with it!).

Meanwhile Johnny now has himself a completely unnecessary laser finger, and it's great. It's such a silly mod, and it's used to good effect, both in terms of comedy and advancing the plot. Though Dutch's reaction remains to be seen...

The weak part of this two-episode arc with Johnny unfortunately lies with Ollie. Ollie may technically be Clara, but the actress playing her wasn't brought on-board to be Clara nor is she trying to act like her, which is the right way to go. However by replacing Clara with another character, we've lost everything Clara's 1.5 episodes in season 2 built up to. Johnny and Ollie may as well be strangers, bound by a robotic arm. So Johnny's concern over Ollie tends to fall flat, and it's hard to take much of an interest in her.

The other part I'm having trouble with is how Johnny is back so soon. Don't get me wrong: he needed to be back; the core trio is just incomplete without him, and it shows. However the whole reason Johnny left on this trip was because he needed to get away from the Quad to avoid being captured after killing Delle Seyah Kendry (which was done in revenge for losing Pawter). And as far as I know, that problem hasn't been resolved. He's still a killer and a fugitive. So what did his trip accomplish besides collecting some data on the plasma on the side?

And finally, speaking of Delle Seyah Kendry, the Quad's least-favorite bitch is back! Unfortunately having her actress listed in the opening credits kind of gave this away, but oh well. Last we left Delle, Johnny left her to die. Except instead it looks like she's been saved, pumped full of plasma, and is meeting up with the Queen Bitch herself. It's really just a teaser for future episodes, but I'm glad to see the character back. Meanwhile the fact that Aneela now has possession of her has clear ramifications for the future, since she can spill the beans on Dutch & co. Plus the galaxy's two biggest bitches are presumably going to be working together.

(On a side note, we finally get to hear Aneela speak. We already knew she was crazy, but dang, she sounds it as well )

Overall it's a rather strong start for the show. It wasn't perfect - and I still do miss the 10pm TV-MA edginess of the first season of the show, along with its intro song - but a strong start none the less. So the next two months should be a lot of fun.
 
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Alright, back from vacation. Time to catch-up on my sci-fi.

This week (and last week) on Sci-Fi Friday: It's us against the world.

Dark Matter S03E05: Dark Matter was in top form for this episode, which is fantastic since it now needs to share the Friday spotlight with KIlljoys. It was the obligatory focus episode for the new characters, with Adrian (aka notDavidHewlett) getting the bulk of that focus. And it was put to good use.

This may seem harsher than intended, but the show's moral compass has always felt a bit adrift since One was written out. Two, Five, and Six are good people at heart, but One was the only person who wore it on his shoulder for all to see. So when he left, the show lost that drive. Now with Adrian, it's essentially brought back that kind of character trait (perhaps not quite as neat & tidy) and mixed it with some comic relief. Which works. The comic relief in particular isn't fantastic - it's not like the Android in that regard - but it works well enough.

The show has him starting from an interesting place: all this time he thought he was some bigwig working for Tabor, but instead everyone has been screwing with him in one way or another. Tabor hung him out to dry, his co-worker he set out to rescue just wanted to use him to get at some of Tabor's stuff, and even the crew of the Raza isn't above screwing with him in a less-than-malicious manner. So despite his connections and supposed ability to wheel & deal, he's very much a greenhorn. It could make for a good character with some additional fleshing out.

Solara meanwhile gets a bit more focus as well, but not a ton. What this episode does do is establish her badass credentials, and why she deserves to hang with the crew of the Raza: she's a martial arts-trained prioress who has no problem putting her skills to use to get revenge.

Otherwise, this episode was primarily a good old fashioned scavenger hunt, which is plenty of fun. Tabor left quite a mess, to say the least. Plus Android Antics are the best antics, and is always good that the actress gets to break out from that very rigid role now and then (though I was surprised she didn't rough up Three again, since that's been a running gag).

As for the B-plot, we have Emperor Ryo. Ryo is having a bad time. He's losing a war, he's getting conflicting advice, the crew of the Raza still has the blink drive he wants, and now someone is trying to kill him. It was implied that Ryo had trouble fitting in with the royal court before the start of the series, and now that he's back he's not doing any better. Each week gets worse and worse for him. Though it's hard to argue that he doesn't have it coming. He may be powerful, but he's a crappy leader and it's catching up with him.

Finally, we have the mystery of Ferrius's Agent Zero, which I'm assuming is some kind of chemical agent. Something had to go wrong with Six's plan to unite the independent colonies, and this appears to be it, whatever it is...

Dark Matter S03E06: Compared to S03E05, I don't have quite as many nice things to say about this episode. It wasn't bad, but it didn't all click, either.

So we finally know who the Raza brought back with them from the alternate universe: pretty much everyone besides AU One. We have AU Portia, AU Boone, AU Tash, AU Wexler, and even AU Android! And now that they're in another universe, they seem content to raise hell by posing as the Raza crew.

We knew that at least one AU character would be making the trip over, but I wasn't expecting quite so many of them. I really don't know how I feel about it. There's not really a great reason for the entire AU Raza gang to be over here, and while the actors do a marvelous job of acting for two, it feels like a plot thread too many. Or maybe just something that is distracting about the whole thing? Having your doppelgangers running around should be funny, and at times it is (how to tell Two from AU Portia: the cleavage). But it's not as entertaining as it should be.

On the plus side, watching each side one-up each other when crossing each other was fun to see, especially with Five coming in at the end. She's the X factor that separates the two timelines, after all, so having her one-up the AU crew makes sense. And one can't help but love the AU Android shooting AU Tash because she's being a backstabbing moron. Both versions of the Android are loyal, but it's especially heartwarming with the AU crew since the rest of them are scumbags. Throwing in Truffaut is also a good call, since Tori Higginson does a great job being cross.

And poor Ryo. Last week was bad, this week was worse. He's lost a warship to the AU Raza crew, he's still losing his war, he's losing his grasp on power/the people, and he's taking it all very personally. It's a bit of a trainwreck, which makes it fun to watch. But I appreciate that it's the B-plot and he's clearly a villain, so it's uplifting to see him fail.

The downside to this episode? The crew of the Raza has turned into a damn revolving door. Just when we get to know Adrian and Solara, they're being pushed out the door again. At this point I'm at a loss for why. The inconsistent nature of the main cast is seriously driving me mad, and while I'm sure they'll be back, if this is more than a one-to-two episode thing, it means my focus and time has been wasted caring the least bit about these characters. And I don't even know what the hell was going on with having Five kiss Adrian (even without the absurd Dawson casting going on with Five, she's still way younger than Adrian's actor).

Finally, I'm finding it hard-to-impossible to be invested in anything going on with Three's subplot with Sarah. We all know it's going to end poorly - the only question is how - so why waste the energy caring about it?

Killjoys S3E01 & S3E02: The first two episodes of this season may as well be a proper two-parter, so that's just how I'll review it.

Killjoys has been my favorite of the two Friday shows, and for good reason: they never cease having fun with their situation, even when the fate of the J hangs in the balance. Having your leads snarking at each other all the time is probably a cliche these days (or at least a trope), but it's still amusing to watch.

We left off Season 2 with Dutch declaring war against the Hullen and her doppelganger, Aneela. And this is right where we pick up in season 3. The Killjoys know how to defeat the Hullen with the black goo, but now they need the materials and manpower to actually get the job done.

One thing that surprised me here was that until now, the show hasn't attempted to put a number on just how many Level 6 agents there were. Well, now we have an answer: 436. The RAC is shown to be big, but given each one of them was a superhuman killing machine, that's a lot of Hullen agents.

Otherwise, Dutch & Davin's plot in the first two episodes is pretty straightforward. And by straightforward I mean thouroughly entertaining. The whole team taking down a hive of Hullen was delightful to watch, and the kind of action that has helped to establish this show. Episode 2's nerd squad wasn't quite as captivating, but clearly it's meant to setup a plot thread for later this season. Meanwhile, see if you can ID the Continuum alum.

As for the B-plot, we have John in the midst of his efforts to run away from home, joined by Clara. Or what was Clara, at least.

On a production note here, Clara's actress (Stephanie Leonidas) was unavailable for the show this season since she landed a role on Snatch. As a result, the writers had to rejigger the plot to account for this, and thus we get Ollie. Given that this was all setup in season 2, I feel like the fact that the writers set this in motion before ensuring they'd have Leonidas for season 3 was an ill-planned move. Still, you work with what you have.

The core purpose of Johnny's trip was to further flesh out the Hackmods, and it did a very good job of that. Dedicating so much time to the subject meant that the show could showcase a whole slew of different types of Hackmods, as well as further nailing down their culture and purpose. In short, they're abducted humans who are turned into superhuman slaves by The Factory, and they don't like it one bit. Most are still stuck in servitude, while others have escaped and are trying to secure their freedom. In short, they will one day be important allies for Dutch's war.

And in a cool bit of casting, did you notice how several of the hackmods had obvious prosthetics? Well the producers used actual handicapped actors for several of the hackmods, including the bartender and the skin-stealing psychopath (Niko), rather than doing CGI/costuming tricks like with Clara/Ollie. It's a great way to include actors who otherwise can't easily land more regular roles, and it makes their hackmod prostheses look very real since they are in fact replacement limbs. So real, in fact, that Niko's actress (Viktoria Modesta) already has a pointed prosthetic leg (though AFAIK, she hasn't impaled anyone with it!).

Meanwhile Johnny now has himself a completely unnecessary laser finger, and it's great. It's such a silly mod, and it's used to good effect, both in terms of comedy and advancing the plot. Though Dutch's reaction remains to be seen...

The weak part of this two-episode arc with Johnny unfortunately lies with Ollie. Ollie may technically be Clara, but the actress playing here wasn't brought on-board to be Clara nor is she trying to act like her, which is the right way to go. However by replacing Clara with another character, we've lost everything Clara's 1.5 episodes in season 2 built up to. Johnny and Ollie may as well be strangers, bound by a robotic arm. So Johnny's concern over Ollie tends to fall flat, and it's hard to take much of an interest in her.

The other part I'm having trouble with is how Johnny is back so soon. Don't get me wrong: he needed to be back; the core trio is just incomplete without him, and it shows. However the whole reason Johnny left on this trip was because he needed to get away from the Quad to avoid being captured after killing Delle Seyah Kendry (which was done in revenge for losing Pawter). And as far as I know, that problem hasn't been resolved. He's still a killer and a fugitive. So what did his trip accomplish besides collecting some data on the plasma on the side?

And finally, speaking of Delle Seyah Kendry, the Quad's least-favorite bitch is back! Unfortunately having her actress listed in the opening credits kind of gave this away, but oh well. Last we left Delle, Johnny left her to die. Except instead it looks like she's been saved, pumped full of plasma, and is meeting up with the Queen Bitch herself. It's really just a teaser for future episodes, but I'm glad to see the character back. Meanwhile the fact that Aneela now has possession of her has clear ramifications for the future, since she can spill the beans on Dutch & co. Plus the galaxy's two biggest bitches are presumably going to be working together.

(On a side note, we finally get to hear Aneela speak. We already knew she was crazy, but dang, she sounds it as well )

Overall it's a rather strong start for the show. It wasn't perfect - and I still do miss the 10pm TV-MA edginess of the first season of the show, along with its intro song - but a strong start none the less. So the next two months should be a lot of fun.

Damn thats a hell of a review, I'll have to read it when I have lots of spare time, like at work
 

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Damn thats a hell of a review, I'll have to read it when I have lots of spare time, like at work
lol, sorry, I kind of get carried away. Though if it encourages a few of you to post, it's done its job.;
 

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I don't remember what happened last season so the spacing of the prisoners was a real shock for me. It was one of those few moments when I did my wtf gesture to the tv.

I don't like the direction they've gone with Ryo. He's starting to become unhinged and that's not really in his character. I hate when they do that. Fundamentally change who a character is to fit what they need them to be for the plot. I understand that sometimes you need to do that. We ARE in the third season after all. I just don't like it.

The prisoner exchange had a slapstick quality to it. Not in the literal sense but that one pratfall engendered another and so on. Normally I don't llike that sort of thing but I think they did it well and made it work.

The shooting of Tash by the AU android bothered me. Was that a fatal shot? Because if it is, I can't figure out what her primary operating commands would be. Obviously the life of her own crew isn't a top priority.
 

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The shooting of Tash by the AU android bothered me. Was that a fatal shot? Because if it is, I can't figure out what her primary operating commands would be. Obviously the life of her own crew isn't a top priority.
No, it wasn't fatal; just a stun shot. In fact it's a running gag; AU Android stunned AU Tash last season as well, right before Tash tried to kill Two. As for why: "As this ship's service Android, it's my duty to protect the crew from harm. And on occasion, each other."

Ultimately, AU Android owes something to AU Portia and is very loyal as a result. So she will gladly shoot Tash if it's to protect AU Portia.
 
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Great reviews as usual. Both programs were great last week but this week I feel like I was drunk while I watched and rewatched them. Revolving door indeed also.
 

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This week on Sci-Fi Friday: My memory isn't what it used to be

Dark Matter S03E07: The character-go-round on Dark Matter is really trying my patience. Still, Roger Cross is arguably the strongest actor among the main cast, so give me a Six episode and I'm generally happy (or at least, less unhappy). What I wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall of the production offices, as something must have been going on behind the scenes to bring this about.

Overall the episode was decent, but nothing spectacular. VR fake-outs are nothing new - perhaps slightly less tropey than a Groundhog Day loop - but they require extra care to work well. This episode, for what it did well, didn't really give it that care. We got a triple fake-out where each level was played a bit too straight, and yet in the end the one thing we don't see is how Six actually got out of this whole mess. Which, given the fact that he had one guy beaten up and another on the VR Probe of Doom, I would have rather liked to see that.

Still, it was fun seeing him figure things out. The crew acting just a bit weird, the unreadable text, and most importantly, the memory flashes. Plus he got to burn up the Raza! (Side note: this is another budget-constrained episode; he was on a ship, but we never see more than one room)

Otherwise, while I like Six his backstory has never been all that enthralling. A do-good personality makes him a great character, but an undercover cop out for revenge just never was all that catchy. And then they wrapped up all of his plot threads when they bused him, only to have to spawn a new one now that he's back. The whole thing seems like it was setup just for the gut-punch. "Hey, I just remembered I have a family!". Yeah, buddy, and so did the writers.

Finally, the Sarah thing is so not going to end well. I'm calling it now: she's going to try to kill Three so trap him in the computer with her. It's a train wreck in slow motion.

Killjoys S3E03: Johnny is back and things are going to be okay. Eventually...

I wasn't expecting this episode to just immediately throw Johnny back into the fray like nothing happened, and it did not disappoint. Both Dutch and D'avin felt betrayed in different ways, and I'm not clear on whether either one is aware that he killed Delle. In any case, he's back and there's Hullen sneakiness afoot to deal with.

This episode immediately starts off by following up on D'avin's strange trip, and I appreciate that said plot thread didn't get dragged out over the entire season. We still don't completely understand why D'avin apparently mindlessly did what he did, but it's clear that it's a parting gift from Khlyen. And so, for that matter is the fleet of ships that apparently belong him now. All the clues were there, but that's still a very unexpected twist to be bequeathed a bunch of ships. And actually, he's just about the luckiest bastard in the Killjoys universe. He has the power to make the Hullen explode, he gets a fleet of ships, and he gets Dutch. Meanwhile all Johnny got was a dead girlfriend and new nerd to deal with.

Speaking of which, I guess the Nerdette (Zeph?) is a recurring cast member now? I'm guessing she replaces Pawter as far as the stable of recurring characters goes. In which case Johnny is going to have his hands full. She clearly is rough around the edges, and I expect part of this season's arc will be softening them. Though to what end I'm not sure. Otherwise having someone for Johnny to argue with is always fun, but I expect it's leading somewhere.

One thing that badly needs more focus though is Banyon Grey's little inquisition. I don't quite get what her part is meant to be - a foil for Dutch & co to beat every other week? - or something greater. Why does she think that Dutch is related to the missing agents (which we the viewer, know to be true, but shouldn't be known to her)? Is she Hullen? Or just really uptight? We're only in episode 3 and this season has already been packed to the gills, but it could use a bit more focus sooner than later.

Otherwise the problem of the week was mildly interesting. Finding out that the Hullen had a 1950s style camp setup to teach their ranks how to fake human interaction is a wonderful touch, all in a creepy Fallout sort of way. On the other hand, the blind human zealots living underground wasn't nearly as interesting. Their presence doesn't really advance either the season's overarcing plot nor this specific episode's revelations of the camp and acquiring the MacGuffin. Meanwhile, I guess the girl D'avin brought back with him is going to be recurring as well? Putting someone with the Monks is this show's equivalent of putting them in a drawer to bring out at a later time.

Finally, we get our first real episode with any focus on Aneela. And what we find is that she a) Lives up to being crazy (though I am left to ponder why she's the leader when everyone realizes this) and b) For all of her evil ways, she misses her father, Khlyen. But what's truly frightening is that she's now taking lessons in leadership from the Wicked Witch of Westerly, Delle. I'm very glad that they got Delle's actress (Mayko Nguyen) back, as she's a wonderfully wicked character. And now that she's working with the Hullen's crazed leader, things are clearly going to be volatile, especially as both want Dutch dead for different reasons. On which note, it's not clear whether she knew of Dutch beforehand, but obviously she does now; and the writers are clearly in no rush to explain the mystery of why Dutch looks like Aneela... But whatever the reason, it must bother Aneela quite a bit if she has made Dutch's name a verboten word.

And now we have two "tiers" of plasma, basic plasma and the equivalent of royal jelly? It should be fun to see what the difference is, That's one of those little factoids that you just know is going to play an important part later on.

Oh, and I'd love to see if anyone can ID all of the other motherboards in the background. They picked up quite the collection.

(On a side note, I'm thinking Nguyen must be pregnant; they're shooting her from the chest-up and draping her in loose fitting robes)
 
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My wife was watching multiple episodes of Party of Five on Netflix; I'm not kidding; so I didn't get to watch yet...standby...
 

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Killjoys S3E03:
Nerdette (Zeph?) - Has been in other shows. Can't quite place her but the camera like to stare at her. She is integrating well.
This episode was easier for me to follow and does make previous scenes make sense. I like "problems of the week", providing a sense of accomplishment even if the world is going to hell.
My impressions of Hullen:
They are alien in the sense of Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Lose all empathy.
Despite this, why do all Hullen appear to be "bad guys". Was Dutch's dad repentant or what happened there? Is this show really about a Hullen civil war?
You can lose your Hullenness.
Who is Banyan Gray? Just a plot device until further notice.
Loved the motherboard props too.
 
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Six's story doesn't make any sense. Here you have him hanging out with a bunch of mercenaries yet he's supposed to be a cop. I guess he could be undercover and maybe they stated something like that previously. IDK. But even if so, it still doesn't really make any sense unless he also had bona fide criminal ties as well and they've never shown anything like that. Plus we've hardly ever seen him act like the badass he would have had to have been to be a Raza crew member. The one exception that comes to mind is when he blew the rebel leader's head off. But that was personal.

For Killjoys, I was a little disappointed that they revealed all of the plasma reserves. Now it's going to be an incremental slog of trying to destroy all of those. Although maybe not since they obviously expect the Hullen fleet to get to the quad before Dutch and her little resistance group have won the war. So with such overwhelming odds, it will be interesting to see what sort of device they use to claim victory.
 

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Despite this, why do all Hullen appear to be "bad guys". Was Dutch's dad repentant or what happened there? Is this show really about a Hullen civil war?
The Hullen are bad guys because they act under the orders of Aneela, who is looking to wipe out most of humanity and enslave the rest as Hullen. The reason she can get away with this is because people who have been converted to Hullen have their new personalities forced on them by the neuroparasites that give the plasma its kick. Fancy Lee, for example, had no desire to serve, but was made complicit after being injected with the plasma.

The interesting thing is not that the neuroparasites are quasi-body snatchers, but rather they are the catalyst for what made Aneela go wonko, and are how she controls the rest of the brood. The Hullen are the bad guys because Aneela is mad and has the ability to control the rest of the Hullen. No one is doing this because they woke up one morning and decided to take over the world (well, not in a sober manner, at least), but rather because of a series of events that drove a woman insane and gave her powers over others at the same time.

As for Khlyen, repentant is about right. He's one of the original Hullen, and unlike Aneela lackeys, he retained his original personality and individual identity. So yes, he's been working over the years on a way to stop Aneela. But it's not a civil war, because as far as we know, virtually every other still-living Hullen was injected with the form of plasma that made them subservient to Aneela. Delle being the rare contemporary example, as it would seem that she was also purposely given a form of the plasma that let her retain her individual will.

Six's story doesn't make any sense. Here you have him hanging out with a bunch of mercenaries yet he's supposed to be a cop. I guess he could be undercover and maybe they stated something like that previously.
Correct. Six (Kal) was working undercover for the GA trying to bring in the crew of the Raza. When he got his memory wiped, there went the mission. This is also what lead to the season 1 finale, where he turns the crew in.

He doesn't have much in the way of legitimate criminal ties prior to the start of the series. Rather, he was given a fake background for his undercover work: murder, assault, and smuggling.
 
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