[SyFy Friday] Killjoys Season 4 Starts July 20th

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Childs

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Felt like Dark Matter rebooted itself. I never really cared for the One character, but the real One was pretty good so its a good move.
 

ringtail

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sm=the fat chic
kj=the semi-pretty but bossy as hell which makes he rugly black chic

take your pick, else, like CLINT EASTWOOD, simply don't watch that ridiculously inferior garbage. ,
 

Eug

Lifer
Mar 11, 2000
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Killjoys this week: Meh.

Dark Matter this week: Excellent!

Oh and Run, Lola, Run!
 

ViRGE

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Oct 9, 1999
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Wow, well this was a brutal week all around. Recurring and main characters getting killed and bused left and right.

Dark Matter S02E02: So One is dead. Like dead dead. Meanwhile Six has been put on a bus. I hate to say it, but at this point it's looking like the series has been intentionally retooled, a somewhat ominous sign given that it's only the second season. Plus I rather liked One and Six.

In the meantime we have a who's who of Canadian actors. Arax Nero (aka Varro, Mike Dopud), Misaki Han-Shireikan (aka Knives Chou, Ellen Wong), Truffault (aka Dr. Weir, Torri Higginson), and several people who have worked on Orphan Black and/or Copper. It looks like med tech is our new everyman newbie One, and Nyx is the new Six (funny how that works out). Not sure where Nero fits into this, though it sounds like someone may end up recurring.

Anyhow, while the first episode of the season had to go through the motions to setup everything, this episode gets to be the payoff. Who doesn't love a good prison riot, followed by a vigorous escape attempt? Also, the Android; gotta love her. This two-parter didn't give her much to work with, but at least she finally got some real action in this second episode.

Of course, now what? I guess the season-long plot thread will be whoever is chasing down Five, and of course the inevitable corp war. Otherwise it's a bit of a status quo since most of the universe already wanted the Raza crew dead.

Nice BFG as well.
That wasn't just any gun. That was Three's big gun, Bubba. It wasn't working correctly towards the end of season 1, but in S02E01, Anders (the other GA officer) looted it from the Raza and fixed it, intent on keeping it as a prize. So now Three gets his gun back and it's fixed.

Killjoys S02E02: Bringing back Hills Oonan only to unquestionably kill him was a cruel move. I think everyone would have been fine accepting that he died in the bombing. But I suppose they needed to give the new Big Bad (Jelco) a chance to prove just how evil he is. And in that respect they certainly delivered. He's almost too much of an ass.

Anyhow it's good to see Pawter again. Though I hope her being held by the Company isn't a means to put her actress on a bus. On the other hand I'm not sure what to make of what happened with Alvis and the apparently deepening RAC conspiracy at the end. Season long plot-thread for sure, but compared to season 1 it seems like this season is going to be more serial in general, which means the writers need to be on the ball.

Oh, and can we keep Gared. Just have him show up every few episodes or so and have someone beat the stuffing out of him. That was enjoyable.
 

ViRGE

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Oct 9, 1999
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This week on SyFy Friday: everyone loses their gorram minds!

Dark Matter S02E03: Despite being a bottle episode, I think that this is the best episode of the series thus far. All of the actors were on top of their game, but especially shorty. For a Five-focused episode she nailed it, and frankly her character is a lot more interesting when she's confident in what she's doing. She's still completely unbelievable as a 16 year old though.

Meanwhile the new crew gets the B plot. We don't get a ton of time with them, but then the story doesn't need it. This is them just getting their feet wet on the craziness that is life on the Raza, giving us just a bit more of an insight on their personalities. Varro is the wheeler and dealer (and the traitor), Nyx is the scrappy fighter, and NuOne is, well, he's NuOne, so that makes him a bit green and snarky.

And we got to see just enough of Evil 2, 3, and 4, aka Portia, Boone, and Ryu. Thus far in the series we've always been told what they did in their past life, with the occasional flashback. But now we get to see first-hand just how crappy and evil these people were, which makes one more appreciative of their new personalities and how it's more than just amnesia. They are new people, whether the rest of the galaxy is ready to deal with it or not.

Finally, the poor Android. She's getting broken about as often as the warp drive on Enterprise.

Killjoys S02E03: Ahh, nothing like doing a classic sci-fi rock cave episode. Reportedly the Star Trek casts loathed the cave set, so I imagine this one was fun to film.

Unfortunately the How We Got Here opening pretty much gives away the fact that it's all an illusion/fake. Which takes away from the horror aspect of the first half, since plot armor aside, it means there isn't really a madman in a mineshaft trying to shiv everything. Still, it was a fun jaunt as Killjoys usually is, and now we get to add Mossipede to our dictionary.

Meanwhile it's a shame Pawter is always the B-story. Her escape attempt throughout the episode was great. Drugging the guard is one thing, but taking Jellico's blood and putting a bomb around his heart was fantastic. Negative points for having her walk outside and get kidnapped 20 seconds later though.:|

Overall this season is proving much more serial. This episode dealt with almost all of the major plot threads: Davin's kidnapping, Level 6, the Company's plan for Old Town, etc. I still miss the old opening though.
 

ctbaars

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Both were very entertaining. Very good acting from 2 and 5. Killjoys multiple plot progression is well done.
 

Elixer

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I guess the "emotion chip" install is next week, and then the android can finally let her hair down.
Seems the android cult is going to try to lure the android off the ship, and do... um... kissing & wardrobe changes? Not sure what they were trying to prove with this, that they can be 'human' and do 'human' stuff?
 
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Eug

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I guess the "emotion chip" install is next week, and then the android can finally let her hair down.
Seems the android cult is going to try to lure the android off the ship, and do... um... kissing & wardrobe changes? Not sure what they were trying to prove with this, that they can be 'human' and do 'human' stuff?
It will be interesting how this evolves in terms of her acting. The Android, aka Zoie Palmer, was a series regular in Lost Girl, and while I liked her, her acting was a bit wooden in that show. So, when she got onto this show it seemed to make sense she'd play the Android.

Regarding your spoiler tagged line: You should check out the British show "Humans".
 

madoka

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Regarding your spoiler tagged line: You should check out the British show "Humans".

Why did you feel the need to add spoiler tags to the above? A recommendation to watch another show isn't exactly a spoiler.
 
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Eug

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Why did you feel the need to add spoiler tags to the above? A recommendation to watch another show isn't exactly a spoiler.

I was just copying his post actually. I felt the mention of the emotion chip in his post was more of a spoiler than the stuff he had in the spoiler tag.
 

fenrir

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I didn't get the impression One is dead. With him saying 'Lets get this over with' before answering the door, I suspect he knew what was coming. Possibly he even hired the killer. I am thinking he used the 'Mind transfer' tech to get into a clone to set up his death. I would imagine that they can make the clone body stay intact and not disintegrate.

At the very least if the actor is no longer on the show, it gives them an out to bring him back later with a different face after more surgery.
 

Micrornd

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Anyone else prefer the 1st season Killjoys theme/opening music to the new theme/opening music?
This 2nd season theme music seems, IDK "cartoonish" to me?
Definitely not as "dark".
 

lupi

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I noticed it being different, will need to see it again to tell how much though.
 

lupi

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KJ going full blown poli-sci thriller.

Android quite impressive in human mode. And we get yet another LG member into DM.

And that previous interview with the DM head talking about 1 was dead but with an alternate character he could return at some point...and here he is back just a couple episodes later takes the entire thing to yet another level of fishiness. And with how alternate 1 ended up...it's at yet another level of BS.
 
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Elixer

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KJ was actually an interesting this episode.
I think this was the first (and last) time we saw her parents. Though, you knew the fiance was crooked...and that ice fog? Wouldn't that freeze the air as well?
DM,
Just what kind of panel was that that the android & 'cop' opened? I mean, no locks, just pushed on?
The android is better with the new emotion chip, now we can go through the rest of the season with inside jokes.
Didn't think 2 would kill him, I thought she wanted to know who was behind it all, but, is he actually dead, or another clone?
 

ViRGE

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This week on SyFy Friday: there are a surprising number of people getting axed in a single week.

Before going further, I just have to say that it feels like both shows have shaken off their first-season jitters and have found their grooves in season 2. Dark Mater no longer has its annoying, soap opera-ish character paranoia, and the characters are now working together and trusting each other rather than working against each other. It's much more pleasant and optimistic this way. Meanwhile Killjoys is doing a fantastic job in developing its overarching story and universe. Moving to a more serialized style has helped it more than it has hurt it, I feel.

Dark Matter S02E05: As a seasons sci-fi veteran, I like the occasional episode where an actor gets to let their hair down (quite literally in this case) and play a different character. It lets us see a different part of their range, and given the frequent use of archetypes/stereotypes in sci-fi, it's the only way an an actor will get to use their full range.

So having the Android install her personality upgrade and spend the episode being a smart-ass ass-kicker was a fantastic way to shake things up. And it's only fair to The actress, since The Android's default personality is, well, a slightly more belligerent Data. That said, I hope this isn't permanent. I like The Android's default personality exactly because it's a slightly belligerent machine. We already have 7 other fully human characters, so having The Spock in there is good to offer some contrast.

"Would it kill you to [butt slap's Three] give a girl a compliment?"

Anyhow, this is an episode that creates as many questions as it answers. Who exactly is the Chief Inspector and where does he fit into the larger picture? They gave him a name and a pretty distinct mug, so I don't think his story is going to be as simple as a lawman bringing in criminals.

Meanwhile everything about Corso seemed odd. He's supposed to be a killer on the same level as the Raza crew, and instead he's paranoid and fails to kill anyone? Furthermore he gets killed in his first real appearance in this season? Either the writers have it out for Marc Bendavid (and I'd hope not), or there's going to be more to what happened here. I have a hard time believing that they're perma-killing the Corso character as well.

Corso was right about one thing though: Two is a lot different from Portia. Killing is supposed to be mad, but it's hard to fault her for wanting revenge over what Corso did to her crew. Especially since he killed her quasi frack-buddy.

Finally, I just have to say that I love how this episode aired on one of the hottest weeks of the year (so far) in North America. That the series' filming schedule means that they're filming at the opposite end of the year and trudging through the snow and cold in July is hilarious.

Killjoys S02E05: Can you believe that we're already half-way through the season? These 10 episode seasons are killing me; it's bad enough that we can't get 20+ episode seasons of sci-fi shows anymore, but going from 13 to 10 is in a way even crueler.

Anyhow, this week's sci-fi tropes were a "we're all going to freeze to death" environmental disaster A-plot, coupled with a damn good body swap B-plot. D'avin and Khylen's actors did a great job playing the opposite characters, which helps to totally sell what's going on. And in terms of plot, putting Khylen in a vulnerable body means that we finally get some better (though by no means complete) answers about what's going on in the wider world of Killjoys.

As for the A-plot, I'm a bit shocked Pawter's parents were killed off so quickly, especially since her mother is practically a matriarch. On the other hand, this is what happens when you have a 10 episode season, so every moment has to count. Overall I'm still struggling to understand just what the hells Lady Simms was trying to do; obviously this ties into this overall plot thread about war coming to the Quad, but the enigma that everyone except the Killjoys seems to know what's going on is sometimes annoying. As best as I can tell, she intended to create a WMD to ruin the planet rather than let it fall, but her weapon wasn't supposed to infect people. Either way they're really amping up this war, so I hope it's dealt with at the end of the season.

Meanwhile I don't trust the new blonde barkeep. Part of the reason she is there is obviously to give D'avin's character someone to ogle over besides Dutch. Still, it's too convenient, and I doubt it's simply due to production reasons as opposed to having something to do with the story. Also, speaking of ogling, the characters joke about Pawter being a pretty pretty princess. But damn if she doesn't live up to the pretty aspect of that when she's all dolled up as the new family matriarch.

Finally, I'm glad they're giving Fancy more to do this season, even if it's as Khylen's plasma-zombie. He's just a damn fun character, and I'm looking forward to the inevitable rematch between him and D'avin.

I didn't get the impression One is dead. With him saying 'Lets get this over with' before answering the door, I suspect he knew what was coming. Possibly he even hired the killer.
Dark Matter's showrunner, Joseph Mallozzi, has stated rather unambiguously that One is dead-dead. It could be a feint, but most sci-fi showrunners have the decency to dodge a question rather than to lie to your face. So if Joe say One is dead, then One is dead.

Anyone else prefer the 1st season Killjoys theme/opening music to the new theme/opening music?
This 2nd season theme music seems, IDK "cartoonish" to me?
Definitely not as "dark".
Yes. The second season theme just isn't as fun. Even though it was only 10 seconds, the first season theme did a pretty good job establishing the fun and edgy nature of the show.
 

lupi

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Dark Matter's showrunner, Joseph Mallozzi, has stated rather unambiguously that One is dead-dead. It could be a feint, but most sci-fi showrunners have the decency to dodge a question rather than to lie to your face. So if Joe say One is dead, then One is dead.


He said he was dead-dead, but since alternate one exist maybe he could have an opportunity to revisit the show at a later time. Which all sounds increasingly like FUD given what alternate one goes through just a couple episodes later.
 
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