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dainthomas

Lifer
Dec 7, 2004
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If that were true then why did Firefly only last one season and 14 episodes while BSG lasted four seasons and 73 episodes?

I could never get into Firefly. BSG on the other hand was excellent.

It helped not being on Fox. BSG probably wouldn't have done as well if the network had aired it out of order and on a different day every week with little advertising.
 

Puffnstuff

Lifer
Mar 9, 2005
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The season 2 premier wasn't what I was expecting to see based upon the trailers but it was good. At least the Rocinante doesn't always come out unscathed like some other shows ships after the encounter with the stealth ship. The season one character building has given way to this seasons relationship building with Holden and Naomi starting their romance while the rest of the crew becomes more cohesive. I'm hoping this show will only get better with age.
 

MongGrel

Lifer
Dec 3, 2013
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If I haven't seen BSG or Firefly, what other sci-fi series is this closest to?

You have never watched Firefly ?

Get oughta here , go do it.

I watched season one of The Exspanse and liked it, will be watching.

I never watched an episode of the newer BSG though the wife was into it *shrug*

I never even watched more than one episode of deep space 9 either I guess, it just seemed cheesy to me as much as a Trekky I had been over time.

Some things I do not watch in the name of a franchise I suppose.
 

thebestMAX

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Sep 14, 2000
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The second part of the book was way higher paced than the first. I would think season two would be up to the end of book 1.

I did enjoy the premiere episode last night and it did clear up a few things from season one (or at least reminded me of them). Season one always seemed a little off to me. Maybe I just paid more attention this time.
 

Skel

Diamond Member
Apr 11, 2001
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I rewatched the first series this past week and while I really enjoyed there's a part that I'm really confused on. Why did the Mar's guy give Holden the key to the safe? I had thought it was the info that the Donnager had taken, but that ended up in Fred Johnson's hands via the Mar's guy's corpse. It worked out for them to help open the safe so they could use the codewords to get past the Mars patrols, but it just makes little sense on why he gave to Holden, less why he gave it to him with no info on what it's for and what the code is to open it.
 

Puffnstuff

Lifer
Mar 9, 2005
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Why did the Mar's guy give Holden the key to the safe?
He kinda died on the Rocinante so James just helped himself to it. We never got to see him actually take it but if you put the elements together you can speculate how it happened.
 

JTsyo

Lifer
Nov 18, 2007
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I rewatched the first series this past week and while I really enjoyed there's a part that I'm really confused on. Why did the Mar's guy give Holden the key to the safe? I had thought it was the info that the Donnager had taken, but that ended up in Fred Johnson's hands via the Mar's guy's corpse. It worked out for them to help open the safe so they could use the codewords to get past the Mars patrols, but it just makes little sense on why he gave to Holden, less why he gave it to him with no info on what it's for and what the code is to open it.
Are you talking about the Martian Marine or the Earth spy? The Maine was dying and gave the crew access to the ship so they could escape. The earth spy didn't want to get caught by the Martian patrol and he needed to spy on Holden. The codes in the safe were to be used if they were running SpecOps. Remember the ship was a Martian gunship.
 

Skel

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Apr 11, 2001
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Are you talking about the Martian Marine or the Earth spy? The Maine was dying and gave the crew access to the ship so they could escape. The earth spy didn't want to get caught by the Martian patrol and he needed to spy on Holden. The codes in the safe were to be used if they were running SpecOps. Remember the ship was a Martian gunship.

I was speaking to the Martian Marine. I get what they used it for, what doesn't quite make any sense to me was why did the Martian Marine give Holden the key without explaining what it was for and how to get into it. It became this random thing that was only put into play so they could escape the patrol that was only put in to have them have the oh shit moment and use the key.. It's just such a random move that doesn't make much sense. It would make more sense if he handed it to him and said, "Hey, this is a key to the safe that holds all the codes for things". Instead it was just a look (and honestly made everyone I know think it was the data from the Donnager) as he handed it to him. If anything had the spy not said anything (also if the patrol never happened as it became the whole point of the safe and therefore the key) Holden would be walking around with a random key he wouldn't have a clue about.

This show does a lot of things right and I'm a huge fan of it so far. This one point just doesn't make sense to me. Outside of that, it's been really well thought out and I'm enjoying it.
 

Skel

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Apr 11, 2001
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He kinda died on the Rocinante so James just helped himself to it. We never got to see him actually take it but if you put the elements together you can speculate how it happened.

I missed this post when I just replied to the other one.. I went back and watched it again. I could have sworn he handed it to Holden when it was talking about skies over Mars, but it looks like that didn't happen. Holden just picking it up makes more sense. It was still random that they used it for this one thing, but nothing since as it looks to be a command key.. at least I *think* that's what the Marine put into the coms to allow them control of the ship, but they never talk about it so I'm not 100% sure.

Thanks for pointing it out.. I totally added something to it.. not sure where I got it from
 

Charmonium

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May 15, 2015
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I do love this series. They could have dragged out the whole Navoo thing but they compressed it into one episode and I definitely didn't see the surprise ending coming. It should be really good next week.

Although someone needs to explain the purpose of the bombs to me. If the objective was to
push Eros into the sun,
what do you need the bombs for exactly?
 

Skel

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Apr 11, 2001
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I do love this series. They could have dragged out the whole Navoo thing but they compressed it into one episode and I definitely didn't see the surprise ending coming. It should be really good next week.

Although someone needs to explain the purpose of the bombs to me. If the objective was to
push Eros into the sun,
what do you need the bombs for exactly?

My understanding (and i'd have to go rewatch to be sure) was they wanted to seal the docks to stop any ships from attempting to harvest the proto-thingy
 
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Meghan54

Lifer
Oct 18, 2009
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My understanding (and i'd have to go rewatch to be sure) was they wanted to seal the docks to stop any ships from attempting to harvest the proto-thingy

Actually, from what I remember from the episode, the bombs were to not only disable the dock from being used, but to essentially fry the whole outer shell of Eros to prevent anyone from even landing on it.
 
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Skel

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Apr 11, 2001
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Actually, from what I remember from the episode, the bombs were to not only disable the dock from being used, but to essentially fry the whole outer shell of Eros to prevent anyone from even landing on it.

Now that you mention it I do recall them saying that.. I don't think I'm wrong on the reasons they did it though..
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
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Holy hell that was an amazing episode. And the extended shots of the ship just launching and maneuvering, absolutely beautiful. All aspects, from the communications and coordination of the tugs and the slow steady aspect of the ship getting on its way. That was an incredibly gorgeous sequence of events, and I am incredibly glad they put it in there as they did.

And holy hell, I did not see that ending coming. There are going to be significant repercussions, likely the trashing of the Nauvoo for starters, and the uproar that will cause in the belt with the mormons. And yeah the ship was going to be destroyed anyway, but, if it was a successful mission, the urgency of it and its success could very well tame the uproar. But, now it was just stolen and trashed with nothing good coming of it.

But damn, S02E05 has got to be an amazing episode next week. The rock moved of its own accord because an alien being wished it?! Shit, that can never be good! lol
 

Skel

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Apr 11, 2001
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Holy hell that was an amazing episode. And the extended shots of the ship just launching and maneuvering, absolutely beautiful. All aspects, from the communications and coordination of the tugs and the slow steady aspect of the ship getting on its way. That was an incredibly gorgeous sequence of events, and I am incredibly glad they put it in there as they did.

And holy hell, I did not see that ending coming. There are going to be significant repercussions, likely the trashing of the Nauvoo for starters, and the uproar that will cause in the belt with the mormons. And yeah the ship was going to be destroyed anyway, but, if it was a successful mission, the urgency of it and its success could very well tame the uproar. But, now it was just stolen and trashed with nothing good coming of it.

But damn, S02E05 has got to be an amazing episode next week. The rock moved of its own accord because an alien being wished it?! Shit, that can never be good! lol

Was teh Nauvoo trashed? It was launched and sent off but never hit the target. If anything it's possible to recover the ship and put it back in dock. Wouldn't save anyone from the Mormons from getting pissed, but I don't think it's beyond repair... unless I missed something, which is always possible these days.
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
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Was teh Nauvoo trashed? It was launched and sent off but never hit the target. If anything it's possible to recover the ship and put it back in dock. Wouldn't save anyone from the Mormons from getting pissed, but I don't think it's beyond repair... unless I missed something, which is always possible these days.

I don't know why I leapt to the conclusion that the Nauvoo is now unrecoverable. It probably can be steered back home. I had it in my mind that it was like a missile, they had one shot and now the ship is lost. hmm

Now, another question: was everyone still onboard the Nauvoo, intent on remaining onboard during the collision? Wouldn't this be, you know, kind of painful? It's a big ass ship, sure, but that rock isn't like a pebble hitting the windshield... it's more like a car running into a large boulder. There's gonna be significant damage on collision and the occupants will surely be a touch uncomfortable, wouldn't you think?

Or did I miss the occupants leaving the ship in the moments before presumed impact?

Damn, I cannot wait until next week's ep. I want to see Miller inside the rock with the entity. The entity that apparently wants to fling itself toward Earth (its, or its creator's original goal? Shot toward Earth but Saturn's gravity well caught it forever ago...?)
 

Skel

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Apr 11, 2001
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I don't know why I leapt to the conclusion that the Nauvoo is now unrecoverable. It probably can be steered back home. I had it in my mind that it was like a missile, they had one shot and now the ship is lost. hmm

Now, another question: was everyone still onboard the Nauvoo, intent on remaining onboard during the collision? Wouldn't this be, you know, kind of painful? It's a big ass ship, sure, but that rock isn't like a pebble hitting the windshield... it's more like a car running into a large boulder. There's gonna be significant damage on collision and the occupants will surely be a touch uncomfortable, wouldn't you think?

Or did I miss the occupants leaving the ship in the moments before presumed impact?

Damn, I cannot wait until next week's ep. I want to see Miller inside the rock with the entity. The entity that apparently wants to fling itself toward Earth (its, or its creator's original goal? Shot toward Earth but Saturn's gravity well caught it forever ago...?)

My understanding is when Miller and the Mormons had their convo it was over them being kicked off the Nauvoo. My understanding is they did everything remotely and no one was onboard when it was turned into a 'battering ram'
 

rpanic

Golden Member
Dec 1, 2006
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I really like it, Scifi has a winner here. Just bought the books hope they are just as good.
 

Charmonium

Diamond Member
May 15, 2015
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So . . . Julie and Miller. I sorta saw that coming but not the way it ended up happening. It was an interesting take on alien body snatching. The proto-molecule seems content to be governed by Julie's consciousness and emotions. Sort of like a baby chick imprinting on its parent - only more Vulcan mind meld-y. In theory, since the PM now has what it needs from Julie, it should leave Miller alone. That's my prediction for next season.
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
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So . . . Julie and Miller. I sorta saw that coming but not the way it ended up happening. It was an interesting take on alien body snatching. The proto-molecule seems content to be governed by Julie's consciousness and emotions. Sort of like a baby chick imprinting on its parent - only more Vulcan mind meld-y. In theory, since the PM now has what it needs from Julie, it should leave Miller alone. That's my prediction for next season.

We'll see - I'm not so certain he'll escape. While she was the first, the PM still went after all other living hosts. Oh, and then there's the fact that the rock just slammed into Venus. I expect that's definitely not the end of the story for either Julie or Miller, but the PM will have had to protect them in some capacity. Either a physical protection method as Miller is still an organic creature, or it protects his consciousness along with Julie's. Very excited to see what happens though, and while I'll be sad if this were to mean the end of the their characters, I don't expect that, and even if that happens the characters were very interesting and the rest of the show is still incredible.

In a way, always wondered how long a name like Thomas Jane would stay attached to a running TV show. I mean, he did do 3 seasons for the show Hung, so it's possible he could stay for the long term if his character were to, but I haven't a clue how long his character lives in the show's material. I both wish I did and am glad I do not... but I will start reading the book series after this season ends.
 
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