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RichardE

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Dec 31, 2005
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Just saw the movie last night, absolutly loved it. If you follow the story, it did tie up in the end. Though it seems he shouldn't have just stared at the prince watching letting him get killed.
 

Proletariat

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Dec 9, 2004
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This movie requires an attention span of more than 2 seconds and some intelligence. If you don't have either I wouldn't recommend watching it.
 

monk3y

Lifer
Jun 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: Proletariat
This movie requires an attention span of more than 2 seconds and some intelligence. If you don't have either I wouldn't recommend watching it.

So would you say it was good? Is it out on DVD yet?
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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I knew ATOT was full of short attention spans, but come on.
People should not have that hard of a time following the film.

I'll give it a 3/5. I didn't see the movie as overly partisan one way or the other but more anti-corporate/government influence. Some if it I thought was reaching a bit but a good chunk of the events seemed fairly plausible.
 

biostud

Lifer
Feb 27, 2003
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Originally posted by: maddogchen
I finally saw the movie tonight. I thought it would be better than it was but no. too many loose ends. like what is the purpose of this or why would he do that?

spoilers questions:



I still don't understand why Bob (Clooney) stopped the prince, I thought he was trying to save him or warn him, but all he did was stare at him and allow the prince to be a sitting target for the missile.
What was the purpose of the committe for the liberation of Iran? I thought they would tie it into something at the end but I didn't see anything.

I thought the movie would have had a much better ending if the Americans kill the first brother and then the groomed terrorist kills the second pro-American one at the same time, leaving the country screwed.

I was just out this week over here, and I thought it was a great movie. I really liked the slow pace of the movie. It's not action, it's not a thriller it's just part of something that could be real and therefor much more interesting that the normal hollywood blockbuster.

Bob, was probably pretty pissed about beeing forced "out of business" by the oil industry, so maybe he wanted the second prince to succeed to get his revenge. But ofcourse it didn't succeed because it never does in real life. The reason why he jsut stared was for us to get a sense of hope before it was blown to pieces (cinematic trick, making the sense of dispair greater). The comitte of liberation of Iran was there because similar things exists in real life and they play a crucial part of pulling the strings. It's just a part of the large complex system, and since the movie wanted us to show how this system could work they needed to show the most important parts of this system.
 

zerocool1

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Jun 7, 2002
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Originally posted by: dangereuxjeux
Hmmm....

you must have been that stupid person I saw leaving the theater last night who couldn't understand what was going on. I'm sorry.

P.S. The movie was really good.

I agree. I wasn't sure what I had thought about it after seeing it. But I did like it.
 

Proletariat

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Dec 9, 2004
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Originally posted by: monk3y
Originally posted by: Proletariat
This movie requires an attention span of more than 2 seconds and some intelligence. If you don't have either I wouldn't recommend watching it.

So would you say it was good? Is it out on DVD yet?

Yes its good, I dunno if its out on DVD yet tho, I don't think it is.
 

MrsBugi

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Aug 19, 2005
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Just saw it.

My husband and I loved it.

Very powerful, thought-provoking, and sobering.

A little more complicated than most cookie-cutter movies, but that was refreshing... I wish Hollywood would put out more films like this.

As for why Bob didn't warn the prince, I don't think he actually KNEW about the missile that was headed his way - just that the prince was in danger.

The CLI are a bunch of jerks who want to "liberate" Iran for their own financial interests. That's why they had the car blown up, so that the dumbass prince (the younger son) would get the position of king, and consequently sell oil cheaply to the U.S.

The older son was going to stage a military coup (he had the support of all the generals) and sell oil for a higher price in order to build up his country and prevent them from being used as pawns by the U.S. (refer to the scene w/Matt Damon talking to him earlier).

That's what we made of it, anyhow.
 

DainBramaged

Lifer
Jun 19, 2003
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I saw it with a friend from ATOT and we both thought it sucked hard cold donkey nutz. Talk about anti-climatic...

I will say, the George Clooney torture scene was pretty hot...
 

KentState

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Oct 19, 2001
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Saw it this weekend expecting a decent movie but was disappointed. There wasn't much "acting" or great dialogue. Half the characters didn't really matter in the plot. The story was very simple, but stretched out to make it appear complex. It would have a been a more compelling story if they took the assassination of the younger son and then tried to piece together the conspiracy.
 

spacejamz

Lifer
Mar 31, 2003
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i want my 2 hours back...I didn't read this read because I thought this was gonna be a good movie...from what I remember, the trailers made it seem like an action movie...

so how did Matt Damon's kid die? the bulb was broken in the pool, and so when they turned on the lights, it fried his kid?

The movie jumped around way too much...

is ultraviolet gonna be any worse??? mmm....
 

Ameesh

Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Proletariat
This movie requires an attention span of more than 2 seconds and some intelligence. If you don't have either I wouldn't recommend watching it.

i agree, very interesting movie
 

spunkz

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Jul 16, 2003
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Originally posted by: KentState
Saw it this weekend expecting a decent movie but was disappointed. There wasn't much "acting" or great dialogue. Half the characters didn't really matter in the plot. The story was very simple, but stretched out to make it appear complex. It would have a been a more compelling story if they took the assassination of the younger son and then tried to piece together the conspiracy.

this is the way i felt also. reading the current news on Iran, China, and big oil is more interesting and thought-provoking than watching this movie. so many pointless scenes, like everything with Matt Damon's wife and kids.

at least it's a step in the right direction for Hollywood, though. i'm tired of rehashed old movies and sequels (except for Pirates of the Carribean, looking forward to that).
 

SampSon

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Jan 3, 2006
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After watching it twice, I can say with total conviction the movie was just, bad.

There was nothing "thought provoking" about it what-so-ever, the plot was paper thin, and the numerous poorly backstoried subplots don't tie very well into the main plot. A movie should be able to deliver a story and mabey try to get a "message" across, this movie did neither. It was touted as a political thriller that delivers a "bleak and sobering message" that is a "profound reflection of our own scary reality", but it fails to deliver on any of the talking points. I am entertained, moved and infuriated much more on a daily basis by reading the news and debating it with other people. I don't need a half-rate movie built around some accepted reality of the underbelly of big oil and the middle east to make me think critically.

Thoes of you saying that you need "intelligence" and "longer attention spans" think way too highly of yourselves. Do you really have such poor taste and the ability to be swooned by hollywood pandering to your pseudo-intellectual concern for the issues surrounding big oil in the middle east? Anyone with the "intelligence" to understand the reality of these issues this movie attempted to portray should have a firm grasp on how much of an offensive piece of sh!t this movie was.
While I'm sure you folks fancy yourselves very well versed in political happenings you must be one ego laden elitest schmuck to be condescending to others who didn't like an obviously poorly made movie.
 

MajinWade

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Jun 22, 2001
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I saw it last weekend. It was interesting, but slow. It's funny that George Clooney won the Best Supporting Actor award because everyone was a supporting actor. It's in the vein of Crash and the Weather Man. Basically a waste of time. It's not that the story is bad(except as in Crash), but it's that the movie could have got it's point across in 10 minutes. Instead we must sit through 2 hours of irrelevancy. I did like the shots of the desert though. When you watch it, make sure you've got the internet to back you up.
 

daveymark

Lifer
Sep 15, 2003
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Originally posted by: SampSon
After watching it twice, I can say with total conviction the movie was just, bad.

There was nothing "thought provoking" about it what-so-ever, the plot was paper thin, and the numerous poorly backstoried subplots don't tie very well into the main plot. A movie should be able to deliver a story and mabey try to get a "message" across, this movie did neither. It was touted as a political thriller that delivers a "bleak and sobering message" that is a "profound reflection of our own scary reality", but it fails to deliver on any of the talking points. I am entertained, moved and infuriated much more on a daily basis by reading the news and debating it with other people. I don't need a half-rate movie built around some accepted reality of the underbelly of big oil and the middle east to make me think critically.

Thoes of you saying that you need "intelligence" and "longer attention spans" think way too highly of yourselves. Do you really have such poor taste and the ability to be swooned by hollywood pandering to your pseudo-intellectual concern for the issues surrounding big oil in the middle east? Anyone with the "intelligence" to understand the reality of these issues this movie attempted to portray should have a firm grasp on how much of an offensive piece of sh!t this movie was.
While I'm sure you folks fancy yourselves very well versed in political happenings you must be one ego laden elitest schmuck to be condescending to others who didn't like an obviously poorly made movie.



I don't get it. Are we supposed to look down our noses at those who thought the movie was good, or at those who thought the movie was bad?

I need a little hand holding here
 

SampSon

Diamond Member
Jan 3, 2006
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I don't get it. Are we supposed to look down our noses at those who thought the movie was good, or at those who thought the movie was bad?

I need a little hand holding here
Both.
 

DainBramaged

Lifer
Jun 19, 2003
23,448
40
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Originally posted by: SampSon
After watching it twice, I can say with total conviction the movie was just, bad.

There was nothing "thought provoking" about it what-so-ever, the plot was paper thin, and the numerous poorly backstoried subplots don't tie very well into the main plot. A movie should be able to deliver a story and mabey try to get a "message" across, this movie did neither. It was touted as a political thriller that delivers a "bleak and sobering message" that is a "profound reflection of our own scary reality", but it fails to deliver on any of the talking points. I am entertained, moved and infuriated much more on a daily basis by reading the news and debating it with other people. I don't need a half-rate movie built around some accepted reality of the underbelly of big oil and the middle east to make me think critically.

Thoes of you saying that you need "intelligence" and "longer attention spans" think way too highly of yourselves. Do you really have such poor taste and the ability to be swooned by hollywood pandering to your pseudo-intellectual concern for the issues surrounding big oil in the middle east? Anyone with the "intelligence" to understand the reality of these issues this movie attempted to portray should have a firm grasp on how much of an offensive piece of sh!t this movie was.
While I'm sure you folks fancy yourselves very well versed in political happenings you must be one ego laden elitest schmuck to be condescending to others who didn't like an obviously poorly made movie.

Well put.
 
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