T-Mobile Uncarrier?

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bearxor

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TMo redid the prepaid plan page today and its still there.

I think I read that you can do it in a TMo store now, not just online.
 

Crow550

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Good, good. It's a great plan for those who use mostly data/texting than yaking.

Been perfect for my needs and coverage has been decent in my area.
 
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If they do that, then they're undercutting their own "prepaid" brand (GoSmart Mobile) as well as all of their MVNO's at that price point.

the point is all these prepaid mvno's etc dont even need to exist. like in other countries such as Hong Kong, Taiwan, the carriers just need to offer their own prepaid service as a means of temporary service for travelers or businessmen who are abroad.

the only reason postpaid subscribers are jumping ship is because of unreasonable prices. this jump won't be a sustainable jump, so really it's just up to the carriers to adjust their pricing appropriately.

i do agree the unsubsidized price needs to go down further. If the price is $80 for me to get 2gb data, I might as well use AT&T where I pay $39.99 + $25 + $20 which gives me 2gb + unlimited texts. Unlimited voice is kinda a moot point, because not everyone needs that much. Plus with rollover, AT&T is kinda unlimited unless you're a business user or a phone obsessed teen (but maybe that's a 10 years-ago teen who didn't text).
 

Chrono

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Well that's interesting... they run a credit check if you sign up for their uncarrier plan... I went with the $30 prepaid instead... after using it for 3-4 hours downloading music from spotify for offline use and streaming youtube I used almost 1GB of space... wtf?

I switched over to the $70 unlimited just now... I'm going to abuse this bitch. If I like it... I'm going to keep it...
 

Anonemous

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Kinda underwhelming for single users I must say.

Yea, the family plan is very tempting but still gonna stick with SERO until something else comes along. (unlimited 4G/text/mobile-mobile calls for $50)

So are all the subsidized phones from Tmobile going to be $99 down and $20/month for 2 years?
 

bearxor

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Well that's interesting... they run a credit check if you sign up for their uncarrier plan... I went with the $30 prepaid instead... after using it for 3-4 hours downloading music from spotify for offline use and streaming youtube I used almost 1GB of space... wtf?

I switched over to the $70 unlimited just now... I'm going to abuse this bitch. If I like it... I'm going to keep it...

Well, downloading songs for offline storage would probably do that. Wouldn't that just be better to do over WiFi regardless? You're looking at probably 5-7MB for each song so you're only able to snag a couple hundred songs before hitting a GB.

But I thought they only ran the credit check for the phone installment plan. I didn't think they would do it if you BYOD.
 

SunnyD

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the point is all these prepaid mvno's etc dont even need to exist. like in other countries such as Hong Kong, Taiwan, the carriers just need to offer their own prepaid service as a means of temporary service for travelers or businessmen who are abroad.

the only reason postpaid subscribers are jumping ship is because of unreasonable prices. this jump won't be a sustainable jump, so really it's just up to the carriers to adjust their pricing appropriately.

i do agree the unsubsidized price needs to go down further. If the price is $80 for me to get 2gb data, I might as well use AT&T where I pay $39.99 + $25 + $20 which gives me 2gb + unlimited texts. Unlimited voice is kinda a moot point, because not everyone needs that much. Plus with rollover, AT&T is kinda unlimited unless you're a business user or a phone obsessed teen (but maybe that's a 10 years-ago teen who didn't text).

A lot of the MVNO's also have a difference in that you get to avoid the sales tax on top, which going directly with T-Mo (unless you're savvy and actually on a T-Mo prepaid plan) you do not.
 

thecapsaicinkid

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Purely to be a douche, here's my recent experience of carriers in the UK;

Bought Nexus 4 unlocked for £288

Inserted free sim for a £12pm plan, unlimited data/text, no contract

Used for a few months, didn't like the reception in certain areas. Went into a store and picked up a different providers sim, same price, again no contract. Cancelled the old carrier's recurring bundle there and then online while in the store. Insert new sim and start using. 19mbps HSPA+ speed test.

Port my old number to new sim online.

Fin.
 
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Purely to be a douche, here's my recent experience of carriers in the UK;

Bought Nexus 4 unlocked for £288

Inserted free sim for a £12pm plan, unlimited data/text, no contract

Used for a few months, didn't like the reception in certain areas. Went into a store and picked up a different providers sim, same price, again no contract. Cancelled the old carrier's recurring bundle there and then online while in the store. Insert new sim and start using. 19mbps HSPA+ speed test.

Port my old number to new sim online.

Fin.

Right. It would be nice if that's how it worked in the US--at least for the GSM providers. But no.
 

lothar

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Purely to be a douche, here's my recent experience of carriers in the UK;

Bought Nexus 4 unlocked for £288

Inserted free sim for a £12pm plan, unlimited data/text, no contract

Used for a few months, didn't like the reception in certain areas. Went into a store and picked up a different providers sim, same price, again no contract. Cancelled the old carrier's recurring bundle there and then online while in the store. Insert new sim and start using. 19mbps HSPA+ speed test.

Port my old number to new sim online.

Fin.
Here's my recent experience with US carriers:
Bought a phone unlocked.
Inserted a SIM with no contract.
Forwarded my Google Voice number to the phone number on new SIM online.

Done.
If I'm not pleased with my current carrier, I can go to a T-Mobile store and get their SIM without contract and forward my Google Voice number to phone number on new SIM online.

Right. It would be nice if that's how it worked in the US--at least for the GSM providers. But no.
It works just as well in the US as he described.
You just have to use Google Voice
 

lupi

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boo, didn't realize they were even scrapping subsidized prices for long term contract peeps, would have upgraded before. bastages.
 

lothar

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boo, didn't realize they were even scrapping subsidized prices for long term contract peeps, would have upgraded before. bastages.

You can upgrade now for a deal. Just call and tell them you want to cancel and they will transfer you to retentions real quick.
I called yesterday to cancel my mom's Classic family plan and was transferred to retentions.
Retentions offered us 3 lines with 500MB each for $100 after tax. This is before any affiliation or corporate discount which I will add later on that should take another 10-15% off.

I was really tempted to re-join my Mom's plan at those prices. It will only be $20 more(because I want 2.5GB and not 500MB), but I have the International Galaxy S II which doesn't have 3G for T-Mobile's AWS network.

Wait another 7 months for the next Nexus means I'll have to pay $295 to Straight Talk.
If I migrate over to T-Mobile, that will only be $140 extra over 7 months but I might also have to fork out $300 for a Nexus 4 because I'm not sure if I'll be able to stand using EDGE for 7 months.
And I don't want to deal with the "buy used" route either, so that's a no go.

Decisions, decisions, decisions...
 

lupi

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Ive got 3 lines now, 1 unlimited data, and post tax is just over 80.
 

lopri

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@lupi: I'm interested in your plan as well. How do they work out? Me and my parents are on separate pre-paid plans from pre-uncarrier days.
 

lupi

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it's an old family plan, unlimited text yes, minutes no...but with unlimited to other tmobile we never go close to the minute limit.
 

bearxor

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I called yesterday to cancel my mom's Classic family plan and was transferred to retentions. Retentions offered us 3 lines with 500MB each for $100 after tax.
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I was really tempted to re-join my Mom's plan at those prices. It will only be $20 more(because I want 2.5GB and not 500MB)

Isn't that just the regular price?
$80 for two lines with unlimited text/minutes and 500MB a line. +$10 for a third line is $90. +taxes, maybe $10 or less. Your line would be another $10 for the add a line, plus the extra $10 for an additional 2GB (2.5GB total, tethering included).

I mean, if 500MB of HSPA is fine on your main three lines and you can add yours for $20 more, that's great, but it doesn't really sound like they went our of their way to offer you anything special.
 
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lupi

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All I know is after seeing this thread I went and logged on to my account and selected upgrade and every phone displayed was at full price.
 

lopri

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In other words, if get 2 GB for my mom and dad, each, under the family plan - Does that create a 4 GB pool that can be used in any way between the two lines?
 

lopri

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I see. Thank you.

Now, we know T-Mobile is advertising HSPA+ as 4G, but it's building its LTE network as of now. If someone gets a new LTE-capable phone and within T-Mobile's LTE service area, will it work with LTE without changing the existing plan?
 

bearxor

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I see. Thank you.

Now, we know T-Mobile is advertising HSPA+ as 4G, but it's building its LTE network as of now. If someone gets a new LTE-capable phone and within T-Mobile's LTE service area, will it work with LTE without changing the existing plan?

Yes, the data plans aren't very dependent on network type. If you have a plan now and you buy a LTE-capable device, it will pick up LTE when TMo turns it on in your area.
 
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