TA seti pproxy rr???

[Possessed Freak]

there anyway we can do this like they have for RC5?

I am willing to put one up but it will not have any website devoted to it (not allowed to host web servers on my connection )

I think it would be a great thing to have, so we could just point it to setirr.teamanandtech.com or something, also is there a way for it to feed into a main seti stat site like mika's is setup for the baby rr's??

 

[osmo]

This is a very good question. In fact, it made me dig in the TA closet until I found this thread. Over a year ago the seed was planted with the hopes of growing a Team AnandTech site with more stats/resources for more of the DC projects we participate in. Any of the teamanandtech.com admin crew want to jump in here with their thoughts/comments?

Osmo.

...if you sift through that thread, you will see JHutch prognosticating the future of the Dcypher GF project, can't pick them all! (sorry Charrison)

 

[Sukhoi]

It seems to be kind of dead in the water. I had a thread about it, but I've been searching for it, and I can't find it. My main idea was 3 pproxies each holding 2 days of WU's, all connecting through Mika's, which has 3 days of WU's.

 

[osmo]

Sukhoi-

I knew I had read your thread in the past couple of days, it took some digging to find it on purpose!
(...why was I digging through Seti threads anyhow???)


...anyhow, I would say it has come back up for air, not dead yet.

Osmo.

 

[Sukhoi]

Ah, thanks for finding the thread. I couldn't remember what I had put in the title.

 

[ElFenix]

how does the rc5 RR setup work?

 

[ElFenix]

that was a 35 minute double post! is that a record?

 

[Sukhoi]

For RC5 proxy.anandtech.com just switches between IP addresses so the load is balanced between the proxies.

 

[Dougal]

I'm no expert, certainly not on seti, but in theory it should be possible.

All you need are the pproxys available on the web and multiple IP entries for setiproxy.teamanandtech.com (or some other suitable name) in the zone file with a short TTL and DNS should take care of it for you. I guess that's how the RC5 setup works now.

/me waits for the Round Robin gurus to correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[aberant]

i had a thread along these lines - setting up an additional seti server. i'd be willing to add me tiny bit of bandwidth

 

[Fardringle]

The one main problem with a round-robin sending everything to a central server is that SetiQueue doesn't forward individual stats information when sending or receiving results.

For example, say you have 20 people each connecting to 3 different servers (60 people total) and those three servers all flush to a central server. The central server would end up only having three clients with stats, one for each of the proxies, with 60 'child' clients that don't have individual/separate stats.

We COULD make this work by having the separate proxies submit their stats information independently to a central server, and have the central server compile the stats files into a format that can be displayed on a team web page, but this would be quite a bit of work to set up, and I'm not sure if there's any way to automate it even if we could make it work...

 

[Possessed Freak]

how is that possible, it loses the email information???

if it loses the hostname, so what, that is what rc5 does already, how can setiqueue lose the email information?

 

[Sukhoi]

Fard, are you sure about that? I thought it treated each user as a totally independent person, and thus all the stats would show up if the round robin proxies all connected to a central proxy?

 

[ViRGE]

Speaking for the TA crew, the idea is definately not dead in any way. However, we don't like to install anything on the boxes unless it's very stable. So, if you guys would like to help us a bit, sending in a semi-formal report on SetiQueue that talks about stability, resources needed, configuring it, how the log file is layed out, ect, would be appreciated. Assuming that it's a stable program, I think that we could at least get the Core moving SETI WUs soon, and if some cards play right, we could pull off some stats sometime in the short future.

As for the RR, it's up to you guys. I don't know enough about SETIQueue to know if it's possible or not, so you can figure that out. Assuming that there aren't any major problems with doing an RR, it'll be easy on our part to set up.

 

[Sukhoi]

Well, if the Core can handle running a team SETIQ proxy, then I guess there isn't really a need for a round robin. I had just brought up the round robin idea to lower the number of connections on the main proxy.

You should talk to Orange Kid about SETIQ stability, etc. He has by far the most experience with it.

 

[Fardringle]

Well, there may be a way to make it work, but I know for certain that when I flush my personal SetiQueue to OK's proxy, all of the work submitted by my queue shows up as one client on OK's stats. The client page acknowledges that there are several "child clients" for the Queue client, but they are not listed individually.

 

[Sukhoi]

It sounds like we'll need to just have one team proxy then.

Can the Core handle it?

 

[nexus9]

Yeah, I was thinking about this a while ago. I talked to the author of setiqueue & asked if I could get a copy of the source code (so I could put in modifications to support RR & port to something cross-platform like perl), but no go.

Any ambitious programmers out there? I did some packet captures of seti send/receive sessions a while ago and the format seemed pretty straightforward (sends the contents of "user_info.sah" followed by the result file, if I recall correctly. If I had the time I'd write something myself...

-Nexus9

 

[Sukhoi]

I wish I had the skills to write something like that. 1 year of C++ doesn't get you too much.

 

[Orange Kid]

A question here........does anyone have a SetiQ runnning that has more than one user flushing to my SetiQ?
It would be interesting to see how the Q's handle this.
artemedes has started a Q for some clients and a couple are under my e-mail, when this flushes I guess I'll get my question answered. Just wondered if someone was already doing this.