the length that some of you go to argue your point on the internet and prove you are right to complete strangers is incredible.
thank you all for teh lulz!
I've noticed some weird behavior here in regard to tailgaters. A car will come up behind me when I'm not in the left-most lane, and just stick on my ass for a while. The thing is... at least one lane next to me is clear, so they could pass me. Sometimes, they'll pass me after a few minutes, but other times, they'll just sit there right on my ass until one of us has to move.
Essentially, I think these wackadoodles just accelerate up to the person in front of them and just sit there. Maybe they're NASCAR fans or something? Anyway, I brought this up since in this case, they aren't on my ass to get me to move over.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Evidence? Case?
Brake checking is applying your brakes heavily in order to make the guy behind you slam his on.
It's not lightly tapping your brake pedal to make your brake lights come on without your brakes applying.
No, he obviously slammed his brakes or else that wouldn't have happened. Dangerous and stupid.All I do to tailgaters is flash the brake lights. I don't try to make them slam on their brakes. If they still insist on trying to eat my trailer hitch, and it's safe to do so, I come to a normal stop and make them go around.
Once I realize that they are a lunatic, I generally get out of their way, one way or another.
I really can't tell in the video how hard the vehicle in front braked.
It's possible that the driver behind simply panicked at seeing the brake lights come on when he was so close. Maybe the guy in front didn't really brake very hard?
No, he obviously slammed his brakes or else that wouldn't have happened. Dangerous and stupid.
I tend to slow down if I get tailgated. I'm going to need the extra reaction time and stopping distance if it's going to be dangerous to slam the anchors on.All I do to tailgaters is flash the brake lights. I don't try to make them slam on their brakes. If they still insist on trying to eat my trailer hitch, and it's safe to do so, I come to a normal stop and make them go around.
Once I realize that they are a lunatic, I generally get out of their way, one way or another.
I really can't tell in the video how hard the vehicle in front braked.
It's possible that the driver behind simply panicked at seeing the brake lights come on when he was so close. Maybe the guy in front didn't really brake very hard?
Realization is powerful.
Did I mention crazies don't know they're crazy? Yup, pretty sure I did.
None of them say you necessarily have to yield to a car behind you in the case that has been pointed out to you - impeding traffic is defined in your state as preventing the normal flow of traffic. So, as I said, if the left lane is normally moving 75, while the right lane is normally moving 65, if you're moving 75 in the left lane, and passing traffic, you do not have to move over and slow down to 65 so that some asshat who wants to do 80 can pass you.
Master Sgt. Rick Hector, an Illinois State Police spokesman, says the law could curb some of the anger on expressways caused by slow drivers hogging the left lane.
"For years in our defensive driving course we've been teaching that the left lane should only be used for passing," Hector said. "If you go out driving, it's easy to tell when there is someone who gets out there [in the left lane] and just doesn't move over. The intent of this law is to prevent the road rage incidents that happen as a result of that."
The law doesn't apply when there isn't another vehicle directly behind one in the left lane, when traffic is congested, inclement weather makes it necessary to ride in the left lane, an exit is on the left side of the road or at tollway plazas and in construction zones.
"The bottom line is that you can drive in the left lane all day long until somebody wants to pass you. Then you have to move over," Millner said.
(d) Upon an Interstate highway or fully access controlled freeway, a vehicle may not be driven in the left lane, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle.
(e) Subsection (d) of this Section does not apply:
(1) when no other vehicle is directly behind the vehicle in the left lane;
You're my hero. Seriously. Few things piss me off more than people in the left lane doing 1mph more than people in the 2nd lane... despite gaps to move over. You passed a car, gold star for you. Now that you've passed him, before you crawl ahead of the next car, move over so I can quickly overtake you. You're costing me a lot more time than it'll cost you to move over and drop 1mph.Yes, you do.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...04_1_new-illinois-law-construction-zones-lane
First of all, I may very well be wrong about the 1/4 mile rule. It's been about 5 years since i looked into it, and was provided by a lawyer language from the state that said a 'safe pass' is one that can be made within a 1/4 mile. At the time, I vividly recall seeing the statute; but for the life of me I can't find it now or back it up. The idea of 'you can only be in the passing lane for a 1/4 mile" comes from the law that says you can't be inthe left lane except to make a pass, and you can't make a pass unless it's safe. And it's not safe unless you can make it within 1/4 mile.
So I'll own that one because I can't back it up. Got me there.
However, in regards to what you quoted, the law, including the links I provided, very clearly say.
1) You can't be in the left lane unless you're passing traffic.
2) You have to move over if someone wants to pass you.
This means if you're doing 70mph and passing some cars, and I'm doing 80mph, you need to move over for me and let me pass you. Nothing more, nothing less. Get out of the left lane if someone wants to pass you. Let them pass, then get back into the left lane and continue passing the other cars.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=062500050K11-701
(625 ILCS 5/11-701) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 11-701)
The statue literally says you can be in the left lane only to pass vehicles and but NOT if there's a vehicle directly behind you when you're in the left lane. It clearly says if you're in the left lane and someone is behind you, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE THERE ANY LONGER.
Unfortunately for many people here, as long as they are going the speed limit, they don't care how many people are trying to pass them. They think they can police the roads.You're my hero. Seriously. Few things piss me off more than people in the left lane doing 1mph more than people in the 2nd lane... despite gaps to move over. You passed a car, gold star for you. Now that you've passed him, before you crawl ahead of the next car, move over so I can quickly overtake you. You're costing me a lot more time than it'll cost you to move over and drop 1mph.
This is the MAIN reason for heavy traffic. People that can't pick an appropriate lane for their speed and skill. Lots of cars all over the place doing 65mph? Stay to the right if that makes you nervous! Don't move to the left just so you don't have to deal with other cars merging around you.
You're my hero. Seriously. Few things piss me off more than people in the left lane doing 1mph more than people in the 2nd lane... despite gaps to move over. You passed a car, gold star for you. Now that you've passed him, before you crawl ahead of the next car, move over so I can quickly overtake you. You're costing me a lot more time than it'll cost you to move over and drop 1mph.
This is the MAIN reason for heavy traffic. People that can't pick an appropriate lane for their speed and skill. Lots of cars all over the place doing 65mph? Stay to the right if that makes you nervous! Don't move to the left just so you don't have to deal with other cars merging around you.
This means if you're doing 70mph and passing some cars, and I'm doing 80mph, you need to move over for me and let me pass you. Nothing more, nothing less. Get out of the left lane if someone wants to pass you. Let them pass, then get back into the left lane and continue passing the other cars.
The statue literally says you can be in the left lane only to pass vehicles and but NOT if there's a vehicle directly behind you when you're in the left lane. It clearly says if you're in the left lane and someone is behind you, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE THERE ANY LONGER.
Yes, you do.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...04_1_new-illinois-law-construction-zones-lane
First of all, I may very well be wrong about the 1/4 mile rule. It's been about 5 years since i looked into it, and was provided by a lawyer language from the state that said a 'safe pass' is one that can be made within a 1/4 mile. I vividly recall seeing the statute at that time; but for the life of me I can't find it now or back it up. The idea of 'you can only be in the passing lane for a 1/4 mile" comes from the law that says you can't be inthe left lane except to make a pass, and you can't make a pass unless it's safe. And it's not safe unless you can make it within 1/4 mile.
So I'll own that one because I can't back it up. Got me there.
However, in regards to what you quoted, the law, including the links I provided, very clearly say.
1) You can't be in the left lane unless you're passing traffic.
2) You have to move over if someone wants to pass you.
This means if you're doing 70mph and passing some cars, and I'm doing 80mph, you need to move over for me and let me pass you. Nothing more, nothing less. Get out of the left lane if someone wants to pass you. Let them pass, then get back into the left lane and continue passing the other cars.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=062500050K11-701
(625 ILCS 5/11-701) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 11-701)
The statue literally says you can be in the left lane only to pass vehicles and but NOT if there's a vehicle directly behind you when you're in the left lane. It clearly says if you're in the left lane and someone is behind you, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE THERE ANY LONGER.
This absolutely does not mean what you say. As long as there is slower traffic on your right and you continue to pass cars and you may remain in the left lane. Once there is a space in the right lane all cars should return to it.
That is so not the case. How are you to know what the person behind you wants? If the person behind you is DIRECTLY BEHIND YOU they are breaking the law.
As the following car you must wait for the car in front of you to return to the right lane once there is sufficient space for them to do so.
Once there is a space in the right lane all cars should return to it. "
"The bottom line is that you can drive in the left lane all day long until somebody wants to pass you. Then you have to move over," Millner said.
No.
Yes, so as soon as you've passed someone, and there is someone behind you, you have to get back in the right lane. It doesn't say if someone is behind you, just get in the right lane and collide with other traffic. If you have someone behind you wanting to pass you, you can't just stay in the left lane and continue to pass traffic until you decide you're done. If you're passing traffic, but there's someone behind you, you must move over back into the right lane (when it's safe, duh) and let them pass.
Go read the statute again. The entire language is to prevent people from being in the left lane causing traffic congestion. If you're in the left lane passing cars, yet there's more traffic piling up behind you, speed is irrelevant.
It doesn't get more clear than that. Plus there's a comment from the Illinois State Police that says the same thing. Someone's behind you in the left lane? You must move over.
That's straight from the Illinois State Police.
You seem to think that if you pass faster than someone else you are more entitled to the left lane. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT THE CASE.
"The bottom line is that you can drive in the left lane all day long until somebody wants to pass you. Then you have to move over," Millner said.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=062500050K11-701
(625 ILCS 5/11-701) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 11-701)
The statue literally says you can be in the left lane only to pass vehicles and but NOT if there's a vehicle directly behind you when you're in the left lane. It clearly says if you're in the left lane and someone is behind you, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE THERE ANY LONGER.
In Illinois, this is absolutely the case. And the Illinois State Police seems to believe so too.
Again, for the 3rd time, a quote from the Illinois State Police.
Is that not english? Or is it written in a dialect you can't read? They're literally saying exactly what you're claiming is ABSOLUTELY NOT THE CASE.
In Illinois, this is absolutely the case.
Again, for the 3rd time, a quote from the Illinois State Police.
Is that not english? Or is it written in a dialect you can't read?
Finding a quote from an individual isn't a substitute for when you are unable to quote an actual law to support your nonsense.
"The bottom line is that you can drive in the left lane all day long until somebody wants to pass you. Then you have to move over," Millner said.
Car A has every right to remain in the left lane while passing cars. If they wish to do so at 56mph. That is totally within the law. As long as they are traveling faster that the traffic in the right lane.
"The bottom line is that you can drive in the left lane all day long until somebody wants to pass you. Then you have to move over," Millner said.
You wish to pass at 65mph. YOU MUST WAIT UNTIL I RETURN TO THE RIGHT LANE. You do not get special passing privilege because you wish to pass faster than me.
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