lol i didn't defend brake checking. in fact i've said it was insane and wrong numerous times.
And again you defend brake checking. Extremely reckless behavior that can result in injury to yourself and others. To what end? If you or your passengers end up with permanent injury what did you gain? A moral victory? Awesome for you.
Slow drivers? If I'm doing 5-10MPH over the limit in the left to pass some actual slow drivers doing 5-10MPH under the limit in the right lane, I almost guarantee there will be some asshole who wants to do 20MPH over and ride my ass. Are you saying it's my job to drop my speed by 15MPH and get behind granny so some tiny-dicked loser can blow by me?
Screw that.
If it came down to defending one or the other, you're damn right I would be on the side of the brake checker.
Actually, tailgating in and of itself it's NOT incredibly dangerous, look at auto racing for examples.
LOL. Strong logic.
Ever notice what's happening when the biggest wrecks happen in a race?
Actually, tailgating in and of itself it's NOT incredibly dangerous, look at auto racing for examples.
It's the abrupt, unanticipated action that's incredibly dangerous, such as brake checking (or an accident, then you'd get a pile up) but the catalyst in that chain isn't tailgating.
Interesting to see how your mind works.
To be honest, both of them are assholes, but the more dangerous asshole is the one doing the brake check.
Did you bother to read the rest of my post? Surely it wasn't long enough to have your ADD interferes.
It just seems like a very odd way to prove a point. "I'll potentially injure myself to show you how dangerous you're being!"
Okaaayyy
If you can tell me exactly what is gained by that action, I'm all ears.
I'm more of a mind to just slowly move over and let them do what they're going to do and I get on with my life.
Slow drivers? If I'm doing 5-10MPH over the limit in the left to pass some actual slow drivers doing 5-10MPH under the limit in the right lane, I almost guarantee there will be some asshole who wants to do 20MPH over and ride my ass. Are you saying it's my job to drop my speed by 15MPH and get behind granny so some tiny-dicked loser can blow by me?
Screw that.
Exactly. 70 in a 60 isn't enough for some people, they want to do 80, and expect others to clear a path for them. Screw those assholes.
Doesn't matter what speed they are going - you are not the police, you do not have the right to enforce the law as a vigilante.
Move over, as is the right thing to do, and let them do their thing and perhaps get busted down the road.
I don't need to explain "what is gained" and that question is irrelevant anyway. This is strictly about tailgating being 100%, no question, never ever ever justifiable under any circumstance. No matter what the person ahead did makes one bit of difference to my previous statement.
You only have to move over (in some states) if you're not actively passing someone. Although, my rule is that I try to give myself a certain amount of time to pass someone, which abates the whole "I'll pass this guy at +1 MPH" BS that some people do. There are times where I'll be barely passing someone, and I'll actually temporarily speed up just to pass them faster. The point of it isn't to show off or anything; it's simply to avoid becoming a slow obstruction in a lane that isn't designed for that.
The only problem that I run into around here is how people use the accelerator. In the south, most people tend to just keep their foot in a specific position on the accelerator, which means they go slower up hills and faster down hills. So, it isn't uncommon for me to start passing someone going up a hill and then have trouble finishing the maneuver when going down the hill. I had one coworker tell me that he does that to save gas. :\ To me, keeping a consistent speed is incredibly helpful to other drivers as there's no guesswork as to what my speed will be.
Excellent postYou're being obtuse.
You're in the left lane in the middle of a line of 10-20 cars driving the speed limit. In the right lane, there is some space just to the right of you but there is a slow pack up ahead. You're driving the same speed as the guy in front of you and the guy in front of him and the guy in front of him, etc. but you have a 30 foot distance behind the guy in front of you instead of 10 foot like most people. The guy behind you just absolutely cannot stand the fact that you have a safe-ish distance (in reality it isn't, but...) so he speeds up to pass you on the right and squeeze into your 30 foot buffer. 9/10 times he has to do an emergency swerve to the left because he's now driving 20-30mph faster than the slow pack he's approaching in the right lane. Now he has just swerved like a moron right in front of you, driving 10-20mph faster than you and the guy in front of you, and has to slam his brakes to get back down to the right speed.
So you, as a safe-ish driver, have the following choices to prevent this situation:
1. Instead of a 30 foot distance, stay less than a car length behind the guy in front of you. But hey, the jackass behind you is more important than your safety, right?
2. Move to the right, even though your intention is like everyone else's - pass the slow-moving pack of cars in the right lane. You will now sit there with your left turn blinker on until the last of the 10-20 cars passes you, but by this time another 10-20 cars have filled in behind them. But hey, the jackass behind you is more important anyway, right?
And if you think this is some sort of strangely concocted scenario, it happens to me at least all the damn time. So generally I will choose option 1 and pass in the left lane with an unsafe distance. But believe me, *I* am not the problem in this scenario, it's the jackass behind me who is absolutely incensed that I have a safe-ish distance in front of me and thinks he'll get to his destination 3 hours earlier by being one car ahead.
If you're actively passing, and there's no room in the right lane without getting trapped in the right lane, agreed.Exactly. 70 in a 60 isn't enough for some people, they want to do 80, and expect others to clear a path for them. Screw those assholes.
Doesn't matter what speed they are going - you are not the police, you do not have the right to enforce the law as a vigilante.
Move over, as is the right thing to do, and let them do their thing and perhaps get busted down the road.
That's because nothing is gained, and you know it. So the only other reason is that it's the principle.
When someone does something for the principle, that's code for they have no logical reason. Just admit that engaging in terrible behavior to "get back" at someone for their terrible behavior is unacceptable and we can call it a day.