Taiwan wants Google to apologize...

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DaShen

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Originally posted by: Einz
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: Martin
Taiwan should STFU..until it becomes an internationally recognized soveriegn contry.

It is. It's not their fault the US is too candy-ass to piss off the Chinese communists.

Oh, and wouldn't this thread be P&N?


Wtfark are you smoking? Seriously, it's not that the US is too "candy-ass" as you so eloquently put, it's simply a matter of the US not getting involved in another foreign problem that it shouldn't be. The only reason that the US even considers being on Taiwan's side is all of the FDI that went into there back in the day. In a couple of years, things will change, and we will see how "candy-ass" the US is.

I laughed pretty hard at that joke, Einz.

It is more about money/power than anything else. If Taiwan was more economically powerful than China, the U.S., as well as all the other nation would interfere quite quickly.
 

Demon-Xanth

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China wants Taiwan's economic influence and has threatened to lob nukes at the US if the US gets involved. It is a very heated issue.

What I'd like to happen:
China just gives up on it.

What is most likely going to happen in the long run:
Taiwan is going to be China again.
 

DaShen

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Dec 1, 2000
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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
China wants Taiwan's economic influence and has threatened to lob nukes at the US if the US gets involved. It is a very heated issue.

What I'd like to happen:
China just gives up on it.

What is most likely going to happen in the long run:
Taiwan is going to be China again.

Yup... it is pretty sad, but it is more likely true. Just hopefully, things won't get bloody. Taiwan has a lot invested in China too though, so that is staving off anything in the near future at least.
 

Einz

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Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: Einz
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: Martin
Taiwan should STFU..until it becomes an internationally recognized soveriegn contry.

It is. It's not their fault the US is too candy-ass to piss off the Chinese communists.

Oh, and wouldn't this thread be P&N?


Wtfark are you smoking? Seriously, it's not that the US is too "candy-ass" as you so eloquently put, it's simply a matter of the US not getting involved in another foreign problem that it shouldn't be. The only reason that the US even considers being on Taiwan's side is all of the FDI that went into there back in the day. In a couple of years, things will change, and we will see how "candy-ass" the US is.

I laughed pretty hard at that joke, Einz.

It is more about money/power than anything else. If Taiwan was more economically powerful than China, the U.S., as well as all the other nation would interfere quite quickly.


Glad to know it wasn't wasted Like I said and you emphasized, it's all about money. The US wouldn't give a flying fart if there wasn't so much invested in Taiwan...
 

EKKC

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Taiwan cant say crap to China, so they pick on a company like google.

as for those who say Google and MS is trying to appease the chinese government, in order to do business with them, you will very well listen to those communists. you think they're in it for the greater good? they're in there for the money! they have eleventy billion people in there, a slice of the pie would mean $$$. they dont care about the people or how they're oppressed or if they get all the information on the web. on those corporate bigwigs' mind, china is a delicious piece of pie waiting to be carved up by companies but the knives are controled by something called the PRC government. If I were a business, I rather go appease China and piss off the 'country' Taiwan.

 

0roo0roo

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Sep 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: C6FT7
Apologize?

That is outrageous.

Hopefully the request gets routed right do /dev/null

of course they should. a successful capitalist company in a democracy with a good reputation basically subtly undermines the only truely free and democratic chinese nation in the world? rolling over for a dictatorial regiem should not be acceptable.
 

EKKC

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newsflash, google's in the business for the money, not for spreading democracy
 

Noirish

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If not for the Taiwanese businesses opening factories in China back in the late 80s and early 90s, China would not have their current economical (thus political) status today. Well, they would be but not as fast. They should be more appreciative towards Taiwan regardless.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: EKKC
newsflash, google's in the business for the money, not for spreading democracy

it should have some standards considering they are american. capitalism doesn't trump all. and being cowardly in the face of authoritarian regiems is unwise anyways. they feel weakness and will exploit it.

and frankly taiwan is a perfect example on how the UN is severely broken. all the western nations who supposedly stand for freedom and democracy fail to even make a squeek about getting taiwan its deserved place in the un as a soveriegn state.
 

DaShen

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You can always tell when the P&N flamers come in because they make extremist comments that divide the discussion into an argument. :roll:

Please stop making such terse or extreme statements, P&Ners, and allow for a more logical facts based discussion. You P&Ners will seem more intelligent then. You know who you are!
 

sonz70

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
So, it could be Google that starts the 3rd world war? Didn't see that one coming.

Yeah...totally out of the blue there. Wonder what the pro-line bets on that would have been.
 

dawheat

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: EKKC
newsflash, google's in the business for the money, not for spreading democracy

it should have some standards considering they are american. capitalism doesn't trump all. and being cowardly in the face of authoritarian regiems is unwise anyways. they feel weakness and will exploit it.

and frankly taiwan is a perfect example on how the UN is severely broken. all the western nations who supposedly stand for freedom and democracy fail to even make a squeek about getting taiwan its deserved place in the un as a soveriegn state.

It has nothing to do with Google- they've stated they accept governmental standards- both the UN and CIA websites include Taiwan as part of China:

http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/map/profile/world.pdf

It's not Google's place or position to make a political statement.
 

PING

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I wonder what you ATOT say if google display North America as a province of England? hmmm.....
 

xirtam

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Hey, it could be worse. A former roommate calls anyone of asian decent "Chinese."
 

EKKC

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Originally posted by: MaxDSP
Originally posted by: PING
I wonder what you ATOT say if google display North America as a province of England? hmmm.....

:roll:

If anything I think China is playing this right, Taiwan President is being a bitch always proclaiming independence when it serves NO PURPOSE but to start a friggin War which would very well even lead to WW3.

Think about it, if Taiwan gets their independence, Tibet will follow suit, China do not want to repeat the mistakes of USSR. I am not a communist, but dividing up a country will only serve to weaken everybody and cause needless deaths.

You want Taiwan to be independent? Well are you willing to die for it? Are you willing to kill the same CHINESE descent people in a China-Taiwan war? If not STFU.
 

mwtgg

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Dec 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: PING
I wonder what you ATOT say if google display North America as a province of England? hmmm.....

I would say Google needs to get their facts straight.
 

DigitalX

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I am willing to kill Chinese, Tibet and many others should be freed. The population of Westen China are non-hans and are often treated... differently.

The breakup of USSR is no mistake, those are place the took by force. Think of it like the British giving up control of India, Canada, South Africa...and many others.

Hope China have a revolution, and People get back their land and way of life. most important part...kill the last major communist government on earth. The difference in rich and poor will push this in the right direction. Now the poor can take control of the place just like 50+ years ago.


Bottom Line: I hate the Chinese to the bones...

 

ed21x

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Originally posted by: Shawn
If I was google I'd tell them to fvck off.

a site just blatantly insulted an entire nation. Think of it like google listing Canada as a state of the United States. It'll be a sad day if China ever attempts to annex Taiwan.
 
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