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ed21x

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Originally posted by: EKKC
Originally posted by: MaxDSP
Originally posted by: PING
I wonder what you ATOT say if google display North America as a province of England? hmmm.....

:roll:

If anything I think China is playing this right, Taiwan President is being a bitch always proclaiming independence when it serves NO PURPOSE but to start a friggin War which would very well even lead to WW3.

Think about it, if Taiwan gets their independence, Tibet will follow suit, China do not want to repeat the mistakes of USSR. I am not a communist, but dividing up a country will only serve to weaken everybody and cause needless deaths.

You want Taiwan to be independent? Well are you willing to die for it? Are you willing to kill the same CHINESE descent people in a China-Taiwan war? If not STFU.

You are basing this on the assumption that Taiwan is not already independent, and thus is trying to claim independence. Truth of the matter is, Taiwan is more independent and China is bItching about the people in Taiwan not wanting to be a part of China. Understandable obviously
 

randumb

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Originally posted by: Martin
Taiwan should STFU..until it becomes an internationally recognized soveriegn contry.

taiwan/roc is still recognized by 26 countries as the government of all of china (including the mainland)

the us and taiwan still maintain unofficial diplomatic relations with government diplomats who work in private institutions and are officially "on vacation"
 

ed21x

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Originally posted by: randumb
Originally posted by: Martin
Taiwan should STFU..until it becomes an internationally recognized soveriegn contry.

taiwan/roc is still recognized by 26 countries as the government of all of china (including the mainland)

the us and taiwan still maintain unofficial diplomatic relations with government diplomats who work in private institutions and are officially "on vacation"

not only that, most countries officially 'recognize' China as the official ruler just to appease China for economic reasons while turning their backs on them and selling weapons to Taiwan, allowing Taiwanese Citizens to travel freely and do business while it is freak'in difficult for a Chinese to make his way off the mainland.
 

compuwiz1

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Apparently, Taiwan need to read the disclaimer. I don't have the exact wording, but there are no guarantees that the images they have are all that up to date. This is a novelty, not much more. If this thing ever goes "real time", then you will see another kind of bitching going on.
 

inhotep

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Originally posted by: DigitalX
I am willing to kill Chinese, Tibet and many others should be freed. The population of Westen China are non-hans and are often treated... differently.

The breakup of USSR is no mistake, those are place the took by force. Think of it like the British giving up control of India, Canada, South Africa...and many others.

Hope China have a revolution, and People get back their land and way of life. most important part...kill the last major communist government on earth. The difference in rich and poor will push this in the right direction. Now the poor can take control of the place just like 50+ years ago.


Bottom Line: I hate the Chinese to the bones...

Does this mean the US should give back most of its land to the Natives and Mexicans?
 

magomago

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Sep 28, 2002
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Bla bla bla...bla bla bla...Taiwan is part of China, period. I've read a lot about this issue, and last summer I beleive there was a very good thread of this (may have been 2 years ago), and the arguement basically came down to "Okay, technically yes the communists should own it all....but Taiwan is a democracy so its our Job to support them!"

Taiwan is a part of China.

In fact, most Chinese people I know (regardless of birth place) just don't care...they want to maintain the status quo because it means no war and that is the truth of most of it~ I don't see Taiwan ever under full governmental control of Beijing. It will be something akin to Hong Kong most likely where its a different system, but still the same country
 

ed21x

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Originally posted by: magomago
Bla bla bla...bla bla bla...Taiwan is part of China, period. I've read a lot about this issue, and last summer I beleive there was a very good thread of this (may have been 2 years ago), and the arguement basically came down to "Okay, technically yes the communists should own it all....but Taiwan is a democracy so its our Job to support them!"

Taiwan is a part of China.

In fact, most Chinese people I know (regardless of birth place) just don't care...they want to maintain the status quo because it means no war and that is the truth of most of it~ I don't see Taiwan ever under full governmental control of Beijing. It will be something akin to Hong Kong most likely where its a different system, but still the same country

wrong, because technically Taiwan is not a part of China. The only country that claims otherwise is China, and of course, chinese people
 

inhotep

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Diplomatic representation in the US:
Definition Field Listing
none; unofficial commercial and cultural relations with the people of the US are maintained through an unofficial instrumentality, the Taipei Economic and Cultural Representative Office (TECRO) in the US with headquarters in Taipei and field offices in Washington and 12 other US cities

Diplomatic representation from the US:
Definition Field Listing
none; unofficial commercial and cultural relations with the people on Taiwan are maintained through an unofficial instrumentality - the American Institute in Taiwan (AIT) - which has offices in the US and Taiwan

http://cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/tw.html
 

Imdmn04

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Google will continue to kiss China's ass because China > Taiwan, in terms of economical interests.

Nothing else matters in this world, like Goggle gives a fvck about the feeling of the pussyhurt Taiwanese.
 

timosyy

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I'm taiwanese and I feel the status quo is fine... but its one heck of a tentative status quo.
 

yllus

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Aug 20, 2000
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I'm on Taiwan's side completely - that's pretty insulting. Google needs to issue an apology and treat them like the autonomous country we all know they really are.
 

maziwanka

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wow. some of you are ridiculous. all that is required is for google to fix the problem and apologize for its mistake. taiwan takes its sovereignty very seriously and for good reason. Google should respect that and so should the rest of you.
 

ed21x

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Originally posted by: inhotep
Diplomatic representation in the US:
Definition Field Listing
none; unofficial commercial and cultural relations with the people of the US are maintained through an unofficial instrumentality, the Taipei Economic and Cultural Representative Office (TECRO) in the US with headquarters in Taipei and field offices in Washington and 12 other US cities

Diplomatic representation from the US:
Definition Field Listing
none; unofficial commercial and cultural relations with the people on Taiwan are maintained through an unofficial instrumentality - the American Institute in Taiwan (AIT) - which has offices in the US and Taiwan

http://cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/tw.html


APEC, AsDB, BCIE, ICC, ICFTU, IOC, WCL, WTO

Nobody gives The United States the Authority to determine what a country is or not.


 

DaShen

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Originally posted by: ed21x
Originally posted by: magomago
Bla bla bla...bla bla bla...Taiwan is part of China, period. I've read a lot about this issue, and last summer I beleive there was a very good thread of this (may have been 2 years ago), and the arguement basically came down to "Okay, technically yes the communists should own it all....but Taiwan is a democracy so its our Job to support them!"

Taiwan is a part of China.

In fact, most Chinese people I know (regardless of birth place) just don't care...they want to maintain the status quo because it means no war and that is the truth of most of it~ I don't see Taiwan ever under full governmental control of Beijing. It will be something akin to Hong Kong most likely where its a different system, but still the same country

wrong, because technically Taiwan is not a part of China. The only country that claims otherwise is China, and of course, chinese people

QFT
 

magomago

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Originally posted by: ed21x
Originally posted by: magomago
Bla bla bla...bla bla bla...Taiwan is part of China, period. I've read a lot about this issue, and last summer I beleive there was a very good thread of this (may have been 2 years ago), and the arguement basically came down to "Okay, technically yes the communists should own it all....but Taiwan is a democracy so its our Job to support them!"

Taiwan is a part of China.

In fact, most Chinese people I know (regardless of birth place) just don't care...they want to maintain the status quo because it means no war and that is the truth of most of it~ I don't see Taiwan ever under full governmental control of Beijing. It will be something akin to Hong Kong most likely where its a different system, but still the same country

wrong, because technically Taiwan is not a part of China. The only country that claims otherwise is China, and of course, chinese people
I'm Chinese? Uh oh, I always figured I was arab
 

GeneValgene

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Originally posted by: ed21x
Originally posted by: magomago
Bla bla bla...bla bla bla...Taiwan is part of China, period. I've read a lot about this issue, and last summer I beleive there was a very good thread of this (may have been 2 years ago), and the arguement basically came down to "Okay, technically yes the communists should own it all....but Taiwan is a democracy so its our Job to support them!"

Taiwan is a part of China.

In fact, most Chinese people I know (regardless of birth place) just don't care...they want to maintain the status quo because it means no war and that is the truth of most of it~ I don't see Taiwan ever under full governmental control of Beijing. It will be something akin to Hong Kong most likely where its a different system, but still the same country

wrong, because technically Taiwan is not a part of China. The only country that claims otherwise is China, and of course, chinese people

:thumbsup:
 

Imdmn04

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Originally posted by: OFFascist
R.O.C. > P.R.C.

****** mainland China.

Maybe 20 years ago.

China is THE country you don't wanna piss off in the next century or so, because of its economical power. We owe a ton of our debt to them in bonds. Taiwan is a little dot on the map, to piss off China over a dot on the map is pretty stupid.
 

yhelothar

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Originally posted by: Imdmn04
Originally posted by: OFFascist
R.O.C. > P.R.C.

****** mainland China.

Maybe 20 years ago.

China is THE country you don't wanna piss off in the next century or so, because of its economical power. We owe a ton of our debt to them in bonds. Taiwan is a little dot on the map, to piss off China over a dot on the map is pretty stupid.

Don't forget that we're feeding the chinese also. So it's almost mutual.

That said, Taiwan is not in any way a province of China now. China has 0% political/economical control of Taiwan. Claiming taiwan is a province under the communist government of China is down right insulting. Taiwan is just as independing now as Japan or S. Korea, if not more independent as they have their own military, while Japan and S. Korea's military is controlled by the US. But if you saw Japan and Korea as a province of China, that'd just be silly. The same goes for Taiwan for the people that really understands the situation Taiwan is in. The only difference between Taiwan and Japan/S.Korea here, is recognition. Recognition doesn't mean jack squat. US is just as sovereign, regardless of the recognition. Same goes for Taiwan.
 

ed21x

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Originally posted by: Imdmn04
Originally posted by: OFFascist
R.O.C. > P.R.C.

****** mainland China.

Maybe 20 years ago.

China is THE country you don't wanna piss off in the next century or so, because of its economical power. We owe a ton of our debt to them in bonds. Taiwan is a little dot on the map, to piss off China over a dot on the map is pretty stupid.

it's a little 'blip' with 2/3 the population of Canada, 2nd largest foreign reserves, and one of the largest economies in the world.
 

Imdmn04

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Originally posted by: ed21x
Originally posted by: Imdmn04
Originally posted by: OFFascist
R.O.C. > P.R.C.

****** mainland China.

Maybe 20 years ago.

China is THE country you don't wanna piss off in the next century or so, because of its economical power. We owe a ton of our debt to them in bonds. Taiwan is a little dot on the map, to piss off China over a dot on the map is pretty stupid.

it's a little 'blip' with 2/3 the population of Canada, 2nd largest foreign reserves, and one of the largest economies in the world.

Blah blah blah, still a dot compared to China. Let's not get emotional here, pride and morals aside, if you were the CEO of Google, you know damn well that pissing off China is way worse than pissing off Taiwan. This world doesn't run on human rights or democracy, it runs on money. Google could care less if they are supporting this supposed evil empire portrayed by the U.S. media as long as they get a share of the market.
 

DigitalX

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This US policy thinking economy freedom will bring about political freedom in china is just not working...

china is not going to be the dream market as most would like to believe...they are still going to export most of their product.

In the mean time, US workers are loosing their job left and right... just think...if this continues can the US really create all that job? Fine, many will say innovation... but how many low skilled labor really have the mind for new idea that can replace a $23/hr job at GM?

summary

-People want cheaper stuff and demand high wages
-Company can not afford high wages and sell cheap stuff, move overseas to produce cheaper stuff
-People loose jobs due to company move overseas, want even cheaper stuff
-even more company move overseas...

This cycle will go on in a loop, unless people stop and think... This oversea thing is a twisted form of dumping... where in US can you produce some $1 items to open stores such as "Dollar General"

It sould be illegal for Taiwanese to invest in digging our own graves. Might as well just invest in SE asia from now on... at least you can have a 100% ownership...

Everyone should Isolate china, let them be poor as hell and people would demand change from within. china needs a great leader like russia... that can take one for the great of the country.

If any officials in china (including Hu) were to fart the wrong way, such as show any weakness by talking about political reform or something, he would be lockup in his resident until death...
 
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