Taiyo Yuden 100 pack 4x DVD-R TY01 Revived!

[dakata24]

Originally posted by: trmiv
I saw a few people saying they used something to check the disks for errors after burning at a higher speed, what do you use to do that? I bought 100 of these, and I want to make sure I'm burning without errors.

either k-probe or nero cd-dvd speed. check vcdhelp.com for both.

 

[Netgeek]

Originally posted by: dakata24

Originally posted by: trmiv
I saw a few people saying they used something to check the disks for errors after burning at a higher speed, what do you use to do that? I bought 100 of these, and I want to make sure I'm burning without errors.

either k-probe or nero cd-dvd speed. check vcdhelp.com for both.

Keep in mind that some DVD burners do not support quality scans. My Pioneer did not, my Benq 1620 does.

 

[slothman]

You might want to revise that a little. All DVD burners can do quality scans. Just go into nero cd speed, extra menu, scandisc, then check scan disc surface. That will give you a visual on the relative quality of the disc. Some DVD burners cannot do PI/PIF scans due to firmware limitations. PI/PIF scans are preferred because they can give a better picture of the overall quality of the DVD.

 

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[newswatcher]

wchou, all the spacing in your post is rather childish, especially for a "senior member."
Make your point and move on...

 

[Pollock]

I'm finally in for 100...I'll report back when I get them.

 

[jpthomas]

Got my 100 pack today. Media code showing up as TYG01, so I'm happy. Thanks OP!

 

[lastig21]

Just got my discs in, and the media code reads as TYG02. Has anyone else gotten any 02's? I was skeptical at first, but these discs do play in my xbox. My dvd drive in the xbox is very picky, so I think these are legit.

 

[IanWorthington]

Originally posted by: lastig21
Just got my discs in, and the media code reads as TYG02. Has anyone else gotten any 02's? I was skeptical at first, but these discs do play in my xbox. My dvd drive in the xbox is very picky, so I think these are legit.

Mine arrived today, show as TYG02, have GG000103 around the centre hole. Got one burning right now, but only at 2x! (LG 4040B -- burns everything else at 4x, but I'm going to check the firmware to be sure...)


Wish I had a good test tool to check these out properly

ian


later: Old firmware in the drive: after update burns at 4x (the max I was expecting).

 

[Chapbass]

I got mine monday night.

My NEC 3500 burns em at 8x, havent had any coasters yet (burned about 20 so far)...

Plus the free marker deal is neat if you buy 200.

: D

Oh btw mine are TYG02 as well.

 

[Averox]

Grah couldn't resist! $0.26 a piece with the 10% coupon? Cheapest I've ever purchased media at. I'm in for 1000 pieces

 

[IanWorthington]

Anyone got a Liteon drive they can test one of these with Yprobe and see if the error profile looks similar to am authenticated TY?

ian

 

[Pollock]

Got mine today, show up as TYG02 and have GG000095 around the hole.

 

[AkumaX]

shows up at TYG01, GG000265 on ring. i burnt it at 8x -- (note: < 280 for PI and < 4 for PIO is the "standard")

it's not my best scan, but it's pretty acceptable, scanned it at 5x. was probably doing too many things at the same time when i did it though (bittorrent does that)

edit: another burn at 8x, this time after fresh reboot

THIS was my best scan , was after a fresh restart and MIJ Maxell -R's (if < 280 is good, then what does < 9 mean?!? )

and this is why you DON'T buy generic

 

[IanWorthington]

Originally posted by: AkumaX
shows up at TYG01, GG000265 on ring. i burnt it at 8x -- (note: < 280 for PI and < 4 for PIO is the "standard")

it's not my best scan, but it's pretty acceptable, scanned it at 5x. was probably doing too many things at the same time when i did it though (bittorrent does that)

THIS was my best scan , was after a fresh restart and MIJ Maxell -R's (if < 280 is good, then what does < 9 mean?!? )

and this is why you DON'T buy generic

I get a 404 from http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/AkumaX/tyg02_1ecc_3520a_8x.PNG

 

[AkumaX]

Originally posted by: IanWorthington

Originally posted by: AkumaX
shows up at TYG01, GG000265 on ring. i burnt it at 8x -- (note: < 280 for PI and < 4 for PIO is the "standard")

it's not my best scan, but it's pretty acceptable, scanned it at 5x. was probably doing too many things at the same time when i did it though (bittorrent does that)

THIS was my best scan , was after a fresh restart and MIJ Maxell -R's (if < 280 is good, then what does < 9 mean?!? )

and this is why you DON'T buy generic

I get a 404 from http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/AkumaX/tyg01_1ecc_3520a_8x.PNG

fixed! sorry, mislabeled tyg02 as tyg01

 

[AkumaX]

Originally posted by: AkumaX
shows up at TYG01, GG000265 on ring. i burnt it at 8x -- (note: < 280 for PI and < 4 for PIO is the "standard")

it's not my best scan, but it's pretty acceptable, scanned it at 5x. was probably doing too many things at the same time when i did it though (bittorrent does that)

edit: another burn at 8x, this time after fresh reboot

THIS was my best scan , was after a fresh restart and MIJ Maxell -R's (if < 280 is good, then what does < 9 mean?!? )

and this is why you DON'T buy generic

edit for better scan

 

[IanWorthington]

Thanks AkumaX.

Anyone got kit they can test the TGY02s on?

ian

 

[AkumaX]

Originally posted by: IanWorthington
Thanks AkumaX.

Anyone got kit they can test the TGY02s on?

ian

in a couple of weeks ill get my lite-on drive back from my dad and then i can run some kprobe tests

 

[abc]

Originally posted by: AkumaX
shows up at TYG01, GG000265 on ring. i burnt it at 8x -- (note: < 280 for PI and < 4 for PIO is the "standard")

it's not my best scan, but it's pretty acceptable, scanned it at 5x. was probably doing too many things at the same time when i did it though (bittorrent does that)

edit: another burn at 8x, this time after fresh reboot

THIS was my best scan , was after a fresh restart and MIJ Maxell -R's (if < 280 is good, then what does < 9 mean?!? )

and this is why you DON'T buy generic

i dont know how to read that stuff... what are you saying... that these are not geniune TY?

 

[Apostle]

Originally posted by: abc

Originally posted by: AkumaX
shows up at TYG01, GG000265 on ring. i burnt it at 8x -- (note: < 280 for PI and < 4 for PIO is the "standard")

it's not my best scan, but it's pretty acceptable, scanned it at 5x. was probably doing too many things at the same time when i did it though (bittorrent does that)

edit: another burn at 8x, this time after fresh reboot

THIS was my best scan , was after a fresh restart and MIJ Maxell -R's (if < 280 is good, then what does < 9 mean?!? )

and this is why you DON'T buy generic

i dont know how to read that stuff... what are you saying... that these are not geniune TY?

No, he is saying that these DVD's burn with a low occurence of burn errors. Every DVD you burn will have errors, but too many errors makes it hard for DVD players to read them which results in skips, jumps, and and distortions, or they might not play at all. He burnt these discs at 8x which is twice as fast as they are supposed to be burnt at, but still the error rates were below the "acceptable standard". As you can read in his post 280 is the maximum acceptable PI errors and 4 is the maximum for PIO errors. But in the tests he did on these discs his highest PI was 11 and his higest PIO was 2. This is fewer errors than what is considered standard therefore these are good discs.

 

[AkumaX]

Originally posted by: Apostle

Originally posted by: abc

Originally posted by: AkumaX
shows up at TYG01, GG000265 on ring. i burnt it at 8x -- (note: < 280 for PI and < 4 for PIO is the "standard")

it's not my best scan, but it's pretty acceptable, scanned it at 5x. was probably doing too many things at the same time when i did it though (bittorrent does that)

edit: another burn at 8x, this time after fresh reboot

THIS was my best scan , was after a fresh restart and MIJ Maxell -R's (if < 280 is good, then what does < 9 mean?!? )

and this is why you DON'T buy generic

i dont know how to read that stuff... what are you saying... that these are not geniune TY?

No, he is saying that these DVD's burn with a low occurence of burn errors. Every DVD you burn will have errors, but too many errors makes it hard for DVD players to read them which results in skips, jumps, and and distortions, or they might not play at all. He burnt these discs at 8x which is twice as fast as they are supposed to be burnt at, but still the error rates were below the "acceptable standard". As you can read in his post 280 is the maximum acceptable PI errors and 4 is the maximum for PIO errors. But in the tests he did on these discs his highest PI was 11 and his higest PIO was 2. This is fewer errors than what is considered standard therefore these are good discs.

actually i reached around 70's as highest PI, but that's still pretty good i guess. these are real TY's, but the burner also makes the errors also along with the quality of the discs. i had a cheap-o fry's brand burner, and that thing would do 1100 PI errors on AVG!!!!

considering that the avg on these discs, for me at least, is 10 PI errors and 0.03 PIF errors, so that's pretty good. i bet if you had like a Pioneer A09 or a Plextor, the max would definitely be a lot lower. see http://www.cdrinfo.com , and look at some of their new burners and scans.

example: http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Specific.aspx?ArticleId=14084&PageId=11

PI = PIE and POE = PIF

 

[GMElias]

nice Taiyo Yuden (is that the actual spelling???).

Thanks,
Elias

 

[gedman]

Where can I find more info on DVD media quality (PI/PIF errors, etc)? I am rather new to this stuff. I looked around on CDRinfo, but did not find a good guide to analyzing DVD media quality.

Here are the results of a CD Speed Disk Quality Test that I just ran for OPTODISK 4x +R media that was burned using an NEC 3520AW. If I am reading the scan correctly, the results are horrible (PI 420 / PIF 47.05).

OPTODISK 4x +R quality test results

(According to the DVD Media Quality Guide, the Optodisk -R is good quality but the Optodisk +R is poor quality.)

GedMan

 

[AkumaX]

Originally posted by: gedman
Where can I find more info on DVD media quality (PI/PIF errors, etc)? I am rather new to this stuff. I looked around on CDRinfo, but did not find a good guide to analyzing DVD media quality.

Here are the results of a CD Speed Disk Quality Test that I just ran for OPTODISK 4x +R media that was burned using an NEC 3520AW. If I am reading the scan correctly, the results are horrible (PI 420 / PIF 47.05).

OPTODISK 4x +R quality test results

(According to the DVD Media Quality Guide, the Optodisk -R is good quality but the Optodisk +R is poor quality.)

GedMan

Well, since you're using Kprobe2, i guess their official site http://www.kprobe2.com/ has a lot of info on error scanning. A huge Kprobe2 thread over at http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=93944 might offer some nice reading.

They say > 280 for PI and > 4 for PIF is supposedly acceptable for most modern DVD players to read @ 1x (because DVD players play at 1x), but as you can see by your scan ( ~400 PI and ~40 PIF avgs), there's something definitely wrong. But hey, can that disk play? Will it play in your set top DVD player or read in your Lite-On? If so, i guess that disk works for you, and could be considered a 'successful' burn.

The main page also suggests scanning @ 4x, so try doing that to see if it makes a difference in the numbers. I like using Kprobe2 rather than Nero CD Speed, even though they do the same thing. I actually compared the two, the results were a little different, but not too far off.

Anyways, try burning after a fresh reboot, and also try burning while no programs are running to see if it helps on your scores. Good luck!

some scans i did a while back. i was relatively new to dvd burning, and found that running azureus made all the big spikes in burning