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[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: PJABBER

So he now joins the ranks of Michele Bachmann, Joe the Plumber, Sarah Palin, Jackie Robinson and Clara Barton in the struggle for freedom. Like them, he will not find it easy.

How can you even try to compare this knucklehead, Whackjobs likes Bachman and Joe the Liar and dumb ass Wingnut like Palin with the likes of Jackie Robinson and Clara Barton? Oh yea, you are a verbose troll, nothing is to outlandish for you to post.

 

[Slick5150]

Originally posted by: Corn
I'm glad Mr. Hoffman has decided to leave the Republican party. Like him, I am also dissatisfied with the direction the party has turned. But that's where our similarities end. Mr. Hoffman is correct when he states:

Freedom is what Americans want. Economic freedom to reap the rewards of the free enterprise system, personal freedom from the intrusion of big government in our lives, freedom from the nanny state that is being forced upon us.

I completely agree with this quote, but unfortunately Mr. Hoffman doesn't, especially the bolded part when in the very next paragraph he derides the GOP candidate for her stance on "gay marriage and abortion."

Pardon me, but isn't gay marriage and abortion an issue of the intrusion of big government? I fundamentally believe that all people in committed relationships should have the same rights as those bestowed upon married folk. Yes, it is silly to call homosexual couples "married" because by the very definition of marriage they cannot be, but whatever. And as much as I detest the thought of abortion, including my personal belief that it is murder, it is merely my personal belief and I can accept the fact that people believe differently. Doesn't mean I like it, but the bottom line is that abortion is legal.

It seems to me that Mr. Hoffman is all for government intrusion in our lives. That makes him either a hypocrite or a dunce. Either way, the Republican Party is better off without him. I wish he'd take a few neocons with him too...............

Exactly. These people rattle on about how the Republicans have lost their way and need to get back to their conservative smaller-government roots. Then 2 seconds latter they're demanding legislation that interferes with individual choice. They rail against public health care because it would cost too much, but would have you thrown in jail for life if you wanted to medically supervised assisted suicides.

Its all just bullshit being thrown around by people far more interested in their own political power (cough... Sarah Palin... ) than they are about the wellfare of America or its people.

 

[n yusef]

Originally posted by: PJABBER
So he now joins the ranks of Michele Bachmann, Joe the Plumber, Sarah Palin, Jackie Robinson and Clara Barton in the struggle for freedom.

Jackie Robinson on the 1964 Republican convention:

That convention was one of the most unforgettable and frightening experiences of my life. The hatred I saw was unique to me because it was hatred directed against a white man. It embodied a revulsion for all he stood for, including his enlightened attitude towards black people. A new breed of Republicans had taken over the GOP. As I watched this steamroller operation in San Francisco, I had a better understanding of how it must have felt to be a Jew in Hitler?s Germany.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I don't care for the Republican party all that much, but the Dems have really screwed up NY state to no end. I'd love to see them get the boot, and if that's the Reps so be it. We have the highest proportional real estate tax rate in the nation on top of all the other taxes and fees. In fact this year we moved to the top of total tax burden of all 50 states as a percentage of income.

So what do we get in NY for all this? Well one perk is that if you are on medicaid you got a $200 per kid bonus supposedly for school supplies. It was no strings attached, so it went for such important things as beer, smokes and HDTVs.

Our local Walmarts and other retailers ran out of cash, because people would buy things then return them for money.

The one thing no one ran out of? School supplies. The Governor's office was bombarded by tens of thousands of calls. His response? That it didn't happen. Everything was "anecdotal", sort of like "We heard a report that the Sun rose today, however I haven't confirmed it" statement.

Medicaid is the only untouchable program. It's now taking part of our school budgets. Our Dem's politicians response? We're expanding the program. Politicians have told people point blank that they aren't going to alienate one of their largest voter bases.

Politicians may be whores, but it's so egregious that it makes any other state I've lived in pale in comparison. That includes MA and NJ.

As far as I'm concerned the State Capitol could be struck by a comet. We'd have better governance from a hole in the ground. The political machinery is so entrenched that it's like getting rid of AIDs. Good luck.

 

[PJABBER]

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: PJABBER
So he now joins the ranks of Michele Bachmann, Joe the Plumber, Sarah Palin, Jackie Robinson and Clara Barton in the struggle for freedom.

Jackie Robinson

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Wasn't Jackie Robinson a registered independent that was at the Republican Convention supporting a Republican governor at that time?

I am an independent and can and do support both Republicans and Democrats as well.

I think it is commendable for the Republicans to see Jackie Robinson as one of their heroes.

 

[TheSkinsFan]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
T: At 27 I was hired as controller of the organizing committee for the 1980 Winter Olympics in Lake Placid. Three years later I bought the accounting firm that employed my mother. Now I have six offices spread across the northern reaches of New York and a dozen other small businesses in the Adirondacks that employ my wife, children and hopefully someday, my grandchildren. I am living the American Dream.

M: I'm a fucking hard working dude man. I'm a real achiever. Of course I embezzled a lot of money to do it and cheated on my partners to do it but you know how it goes.

Do you have anything at all to back that up?

 

[n yusef]

Originally posted by: PJABBER

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: PJABBER
So he now joins the ranks of Michele Bachmann, Joe the Plumber, Sarah Palin, Jackie Robinson and Clara Barton in the struggle for freedom.

Jackie Robinson

Wasn't Jackie Robinson a registered independent that was at the Republican Convention supporting a Republican governor at that time?

I am an independent and can and do support both Republicans and Democrats as well.

I think it is commendable for the Republicans to see Jackie Robinson as one of their heroes.

Sure, as long as they recognize that Robinson thought that they were racist assholes.

 

[BMW540I6speed]

The New York Conservative Party is a third party in that state, a longstanding institution which has among other things elected a senator (Jim Buckley) over the two major parties' candidates, a difficult feat for a third party. Normally what they do is to influence the selection of major party candidates by granting or withholding their cross-endorsement according to how conservative the candidate is.

I don't think that, given this history, a close race or even a win in one district is going to spread nationally. But, Hoffman received endorsements from the likes of Dick Armey, Sarah Palin, Rick Santorum, and Michelle Bachmann. Big government social conservitives poseing as small government conservatives. Hoffman is going to lose, and the endorsers are well aware of it. By endorsing a strong core social conservative they are highlighting their core credentials. The loss will be blamed on big liberal dollars, liberal media, etc. But these will be good credentials to take to the polls in the 2010 mid-terms. It's still quite a jump to expect a movement largely composed of angry, aging straight white people to start drawing a lot of young people in. Especially when the things they're angry about tend to be mostly things that either don't bother young people, or that most young people feel the opposite way about.

It would be a good thing for political discourse, if not the Republican party, for the party to divide into another distinct group. Todays Republicans lose a lot by aligning themselves with fundamentalism and social conservatives. With those elements in place, I for one and many other former registered Republicans wouldn't dream of voting Republican, whereas, I and many would if the emphasis really was on streamlining government. Maybe a new party could out-wingnut Sens. DeMint, Inhofe, and Coburn, or George Will's new crush, Michelle "petite pistol" Bachmann, but most of the followers of such a party would be the key feature of this whole Teabagger "movement. Which is just a bunch of generalized anger and frustration with no real unifying focus.

 

[PJABBER]

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: PJABBER

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: PJABBER
So he now joins the ranks of Michele Bachmann, Joe the Plumber, Sarah Palin, Jackie Robinson and Clara Barton in the struggle for freedom.

Jackie Robinson

Wasn't Jackie Robinson a registered independent that was at the Republican Convention supporting a Republican governor at that time?

I am an independent and can and do support both Republicans and Democrats as well.

I think it is commendable for the Republicans to see Jackie Robinson as one of their heroes.

Sure, as long as they recognize that Robinson thought that they were racist assholes.

Oh, you would have supported the late Jackie Robinson's right to free speech and political choice only so long as he advocated for liberals, Republican or, preferably, the party of emancipation - the Democrats?

Oh SNAP! It was the Republicans that were the Party of Emancipation - my bad!

It was all before my time, so let's see what Wiki has to say about Mr. Robinson beyond baseball -

" ...Robinson always considered his business career as advancing the cause of African-Americans in commerce and industry. Robinson also chaired the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People's (NAACP) million-dollar Freedom Fund Drive in 1957, and served on the organization's board until 1967. In 1964, he helped found, with Harlem businessman Dunbar McLaurin, Freedom National Bank ? an African-American-owned and operated commercial bank based in Harlem. He also served as the bank's first Chairman of the Board. In 1970, Robinson established the Jackie Robinson Construction Company to build housing for low-income families..."

MY KIND OF GUY!

"...Robinson was active in politics throughout his post-baseball life. He identified himself as a political independent although he held conservative opinions on several issues, including the Vietnam War (he once wrote Martin Luther King, Jr. to defend the Johnson Administration's military policy). After supporting Richard Nixon in his 1960 presidential race against John F. Kennedy, Robinson later praised Kennedy effusively for his stance on civil rights. He subsequently supported Hubert Humphrey against Nixon in 1968. In 1964, Robinson became one of six national directors for Nelson Rockefeller's Republican presidential campaign and later became special assistant for community affairs when Rockefeller was re-elected governor of New York in 1966..."

I don't see him campaigning for Democrats, but as an independent he could choose whom he wanted to support and was beholden to no one.

Why don't you get off your partisan bandwagon and advocate the freedom to choose for everyone?

 

[0marTheZealot]

Originally posted by: PJABBER
Oh SNAP! It was the Republicans that were the Party of Emancipation - my bad!

The fact that you even believe this shows how stupid you are. The "Republicans" that Lincoln belonged to evolved into the present day Democratic Party while the Whigs, that was pro-secession, pro-slavery, morphed into modern day Republicans.

This is basic, 5th grade American history.

 

[PJABBER]

Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot

Originally posted by: PJABBER
Oh SNAP! It was the Republicans that were the Party of Emancipation - my bad!

The fact that you even believe this shows how stupid you are. The "Republicans" that Lincoln belonged to evolved into the present day Democratic Party while the Whigs, that was pro-secession, pro-slavery, morphed into modern day Republicans.

This is basic, 5th grade American history.

Maybe in Libya.

 

[Pens1566]

lol at the GOP claiming Robinson as one of theirs ... read his biography if you really think thats the case.

 

[Carmen813]

I live very close to the New York 23rd district (I think about 15 miles max). In NYS politics, Dede Scozzafava is a Conservative.

So he now joins the ranks of Michele Bachmann, Joe the Plumber, Sarah Palin, Jackie Robinson and Clara Barton in the struggle for freedom. Like them, he will not find it easy.

If those are the people who you think think best represent the Libertarian movement, then...well, are you in for a shocker.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: PJABBER
Freedom has to be won each day. It is only the price that changes.

Freedom was won a long time ago. We had it, we have it, no one has taken it away. I know it's important to your faux struggle, but back here in reality, it's a non-issue.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I paid no attention to the name so I will just use T for turkey:

T: At this time, three months ago, I was wrestling with a decision. A decision as to whether or not to run in a special election to fill the seat vacated by the new secretary of the Army, John McHugh. If you had told me 90 days later I would be penning an op-ed piece for the New York Post, I would have laughed in disbelief. I would have laughed even louder had you told me that I would be receiving endorsement and support from political leaders like Fred Thompson, former Majority Leader Dick Armey, or Sarah Palin. Or appearing on broadcast media with national audiences, as their hosts peppered me with questions about the future of the GOP and our nation.

M: Isn't that just sweet. Three months ago he was just another asshole like me.

T: You see I?m not a professional politician; I?ve never sought elected office. I grew up poor in Saranac Lake, in the heart of the Adirondacks. My siblings and I were raised in a single-parent household by our mother. We worked to help her pay the mortgage. But, like so many others in this great land, I worked hard, got a good education, did a six-year stint in the military, married, landed a good job with a ?big eight? accounting firm and started living the American dream.

M: Damned if I can't hear an orc boo hooing here somewhere.

T: It?s funny what can happen in America, when you are able to dream and have the courage to follow your dreams.

M: Oh Boy does this ever tug at my Mom and Apple Pie good old America Strings. Let me get a hankie.

T: At 27 I was hired as controller of the organizing committee for the 1980 Winter Olympics in Lake Placid. Three years later I bought the accounting firm that employed my mother. Now I have six offices spread across the northern reaches of New York and a dozen other small businesses in the Adirondacks that employ my wife, children and hopefully someday, my grandchildren. I am living the American Dream.

M: I'm a fucking hard working dude man. I'm a real achiever. Of course I embezzled a lot of money to do it and cheated on my partners to do it but you know how it goes.

T: The reason I?m running for office is to ensure that others share the same opportunities.

M: Aren't I just a fucking saint?

T: Sadly,

M: Get out your hankies.

T: that dream is quickly becoming a nightmare. Unemployment grows, our economy is in crisis, and our elected officials seem out of touch with reality. Government in Albany is a disgrace; it?s the most dysfunctional in the nation. New York has six statewide elected officials, only two of them have been elected by the people. Three of the remaining four hold office as a result of the scandals, sexual and financial, that forced a governor and a comptroller to resign.

M: Forget the hankies it's time to rage rage rage. It's the worst here in the world.

T: It?s just as bad in Washington.

M: Scratch that it's the worst here, it's just as bad in Washington.

T: The Obama administration suffers from the illusion that the way you solve problems, both social and economic, is to throw money at them. In the meantime, Congress fiddles while our economy burns. They lack common sense.

M: The same delusion shared by all the worlds leading economists, by the way.

T: They don?t seem to get it that increased spending leads to higher taxes and fuels a projected $9 trillion deficit.

M: I don't seem to get that if the economy shrinks and shrinks from lack of spending we will to the way of Japan in the nineties and have a couple of decades of stagnation and recession.

T: That earmarks and pork-barrel spending might be beneficial to their political careers, but are devastating to the taxpayers who foot the bill.

M: Never mind it's only a small part of spending and the minute I get there I will be working my ass off to get mine so you'll re-elect me.

T: They are oblivious to the fact that tort reform, cutting of waste, and the introduction of free-market solutions are the ways to lower the cost of health care.

M: Another shibboleth because it's a small fraction of the real problem.

T: That Obama-care will only lead us down the slippery slope to socialized medicine.

M: Socialized medicine, OHFG. The dreaded socialized medicine. I did tell you, didn't I that just a few months ago I was a worthless nobody who didn't know shit from beans?

T: They are addicted to spending. When they run low on funds they simply create a new tax or raise an old one.

M: Am I getting anything across to you simple minded twits. They are addicted.

T: Taxes, the deficit, red tape and regulation are breaking the back of the nation, mortgaging the future of our children and grandchildren.

M: I running to save your children you idiots.

T: Americans have had enough and are vocalizing their anger in town hall meetings and on the streets of Washington. They are mad as hell and they?re not going to take it anymore!

M: This is because our testicles are shrinking.

T: That?s why I am running. I am one of them!

M: I certainly am, a brain dead spouter of empty words chalk full of emotional implications, propaganda, and absolutely otherwise meaningless.

T: Freedom is what Americans want. Economic freedom to reap the rewards of the free enterprise system, personal freedom from the intrusion of big government in our lives, freedom from the nanny state that is being forced upon us.

M: Give me deregulation or give me death, oh wait, give me deregulation so I can kill kill kill.

T: I?m a lifelong Republican running as the nominee of the New York State Conservative Party.

M: I am a lifelong congenital idiot, and member of the party of death.

T: I didn't?t leave the Republican Party, the party left me. The GOP bosses in New York and Washington felt the candidate needed to be as liberal as possible. They picked a professional politician, with a voting record more liberal than 46 Democrats in the New York state legislature. They threw principles out the window. Their candidate has voted for increased spending, higher taxes, gay marriage and abortion. She supports ?Card Check? (EFCA) and is supported by trial lawyers, gay activists and Big Labor. In 2008 she ran on the line of the radical left Working Families Party, ACORN?s political party in New York.

M: Help me see if I can pack in some more buzz words, please. It's us decent folk against evil incarnate.

T: The battle I wage is not a lonely one. Like-minded citizens in the district, the state and the nation have joined me in this fight.

T: Together we can become the marching morons.

M: It is a battle that has been joined by current and former elected Republican officials, conservative activists and members of the ever-growing Tea Party and 9/12 movements. And if the GOP picks liberal candidates for the midterm congressional elections next year, they may find that there are a lot more people out there like me who won?t go along. We are not going to win by becoming more like the Democrats. We?re going to win by standing up for our beliefs.

T: It's a battle joined by the same old assholes as have always been in the party of death

T: It?s principle over party.

M: Our latest self delusional lie we are training ourselves to spout.

T: It?s a fight for the heart and soul of the Republican Party. It?s a fight for fiscal responsibility and the return of common sense to those who govern us.

M: That shriveled up piece of blackened flesh and turd we use to allow millions of Americans die without heal care access.

T: This is a fight for our children?s future. It?s a fight for America.

M: Fight so the Zombies can win.
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In this whole worthless piece of shit of a speech not one word of common sense, intelligence or thinking appears anywhere. It is a piece of filthy rhetoric and garbage totally devoid of content, a screed, a raving of propagandistic bull shit.

Summary:

Candidate: We have a $1.5 trillion deficit (that's 1500 billion dollars), and I've just showed you how UNDER PERFECT CIRCUMSTANCES THAT HAVEN'T EXISTED IN WASHINGTON FOR THE PAST 50 YEARS we can save $30 billion. That's the solution to our problems.

 

[Lemon law]

Ok OK OK, we now know the Hoffman wears the conservative endorsement of Palin and the ever popular Fred Thompson. And as such, is now awarded the grade AAA PJABBER endorsement.

But in this entire fast shuffle, we somehow know nothing about that other republican, Dede Scozzafava, except she does not froth at the mouth at the mere thought of gay marriage and she is accused of spending tax monies which all politicians end up doing in the course of their elected duties. Other than that no specifics, just a big rant about the dubious virtues of Hoffman.

The other thing to note is that someone like PJABBER delights in his type values taking back the GOP, and what is missing here is some good common sense republicans willing to point out the fact, that its been precisely Hoffman and PJABBER type ideas the have hijacked the formerly rational Republican party and totally wrecked it in the process.

And if rational republicans do not take back the GOP and rescue it from idiots like Hoffman and PJABBER, there will soon be no GOP left to save.

 

[PJABBER]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: PJABBER
Freedom has to be won each day. It is only the price that changes.

Freedom was won a long time ago. We had it, we have it, no one has taken it away. I know it's important to your faux struggle, but back here in reality, it's a non-issue.

Well, you certainly have had the freedom to carry the Spear of Destiny and express yourself in this Forum Of Reality, haven't you? I believe we have to keep a watchful eye to make sure the conservatives, libertarians and classical liberals also have that freedom.

:laugh:

 

[PJABBER]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Ok OK OK, we now know the Hoffman wears the conservative endorsement of Palin and the ever popular Fred Thompson. And as such, is now awarded the grade AAA PJABBER endorsement.

But in this entire fast shuffle, we somehow know nothing about that other republican, Dede Scozzafava, except she does not froth at the mouth at the mere thought of gay marriage and she is accused of spending tax monies which all politicians end up doing in the course of their elected duties. Other than that no specifics, just a big rant about the dubious virtues of Hoffman.

The other thing to note is that someone like PJABBER delights in his type values taking back the GOP, and what is missing here is some good common sense republicans willing to point out the fact, that its been precisely Hoffman and PJABBER type ideas the have hijacked the formerly rational Republican party and totally wrecked it in the process.

And if rational republicans do not take back the GOP and rescue it from idiots like Hoffman and PJABBER, there will soon be no GOP left to save.

Hi Lemonade! I never thought I would see the day that you supported ANY Republican!

 

[Lemon law]

Originally posted by: PJABBER

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Ok OK OK, we now know the Hoffman wears the conservative endorsement of Palin and the ever popular Fred Thompson. And as such, is now awarded the grade AAA PJABBER endorsement.

But in this entire fast shuffle, we somehow know nothing about that other republican, Dede Scozzafava, except she does not froth at the mouth at the mere thought of gay marriage and she is accused of spending tax monies which all politicians end up doing in the course of their elected duties. Other than that no specifics, just a big rant about the dubious virtues of Hoffman.

The other thing to note is that someone like PJABBER delights in his type values taking back the GOP, and what is missing here is some good common sense republicans willing to point out the fact, that its been precisely Hoffman and PJABBER type ideas the have hijacked the formerly rational Republican party and totally wrecked it in the process.

And if rational republicans do not take back the GOP and rescue it from idiots like Hoffman and PJABBER, there will soon be no GOP left to save.

Hi Lemonade! I never thought I would see the day that you supported ANY Republican!

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As a democrat I can not claim to be a republican. That does not mean that I automatically reject the ideas of ALL republicans because they have an R after their name.

But it just strikes me that you are being arrogant in the extreme, after all, the GOP belongs equally to ALL those that claim to be Republicans . After all, the GOP has always claimed it was a big tent party that could be home to Rockerfeller Republicans and Barry Goldwater conservatives at the same time.

And now you claim the right to purge out any Republican who does not agree with your narrow definition of Republican. At the same time, many Republican want to reclaim back their Republican party from the likes of YOU. But that never seems to dawn on you that other Republicans have rights also.

Maybe as a partisan democrat, I should be delighted to see the GOP totally fragment into two pieces, with neither piece having enough votes to elect anyone for dog catcher. And the likely end result if PJABBER gets his way.

But as an American I cannot view the total extinction of the GOP with any optimism.
Nor can I view the current grid lock and the rude shout down any rational debate that now paralyzes this Nation as an inevitable result of partisan politics.

Good and bad ideas do not belong to either the democratic and republican parties, they never have and never will. But right now, PJABBER, I have to view what you think as good ideas as being the precise same set of bad governance ideas that caused GWB&CO to totally screw up this nation during the past eight years.

And as someone who is not GOP, I am rooting for rational republicans to take back the GOP from you and your ilk. Failing that, since you can't lead, and can't follow, the better answer may be to let you destroy your own political party, and then it will mean that the GOP will be too small to get in the way of the normal progress all nations have to continually adapt to.

And after the GOP becomes irrelevant, there will be a hope that rational republicans can take back the GOP from the radical right and rebuild it into a viable political party.

 

[Ausm]

And after the GOP becomes irrelevant, there will be a hope that rational republicans can take back the GOP from the radical right and rebuild it into a viable political party.

It's already happened thats why the right wing Posse comitadus has to swoop down on this forum to bitch about it

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
T: At 27 I was hired as controller of the organizing committee for the 1980 Winter Olympics in Lake Placid. Three years later I bought the accounting firm that employed my mother. Now I have six offices spread across the northern reaches of New York and a dozen other small businesses in the Adirondacks that employ my wife, children and hopefully someday, my grandchildren. I am living the American Dream.

M: I'm a fucking hard working dude man. I'm a real achiever. Of course I embezzled a lot of money to do it and cheated on my partners to do it but you know how it goes.

Do you have anything at all to back that up?

Are you kidding? My whole point is that we have no idea if what I said isn't true. We are being told how wonderful somebody is at business without the slightest evidence as to how or why he is successful. I am being asked to swallow some shallow statement about some joker running for office self proclaiming his business acumen. Like I said, there isn't a single piece of information provided in his screed that has any substance.

You ask me if I have anything to back that up, but you should have been asking yourself where his back up is.

The guy might be a great guy. He might make a good politician, but nothing in his words means anything. It was all buzz word emotional appeal that stunk to high heavens.

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
And after the GOP becomes irrelevant, there will be a hope that rational republicans can take back the GOP from the radical right and rebuild it into a viable political party.

Nice post LL :thumbsup:

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: PJABBER

Originally posted by: PJABBER

Originally posted by: ironwing
The traditional pillars of the Republican party have been greed and mean spirited stupidity. Which value did Dede Scozzafava fail to uphold?

After reading your question I went to the ever reliable WWW and I found this list of dyed-in-the-wool, die-hard Republicans. After clicking though to read the short bios of every single last one of them, I could not see Dede ever being amongst them.

Republicans - Heroes

And then I clicked through to the things the Republicans advocated and accomplished -

Republicans - Accomplishments

and I could not see Dede ever advocating any of them.

remember when republicans were the party of the radical left?

 

[PJABBER]

Originally posted by: Lemon law

Originally posted by: PJABBER

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Ok OK OK, we now know the Hoffman wears the conservative endorsement of Palin and the ever popular Fred Thompson. And as such, is now awarded the grade AAA PJABBER endorsement.

But in this entire fast shuffle, we somehow know nothing about that other republican, Dede Scozzafava,...

And if rational republicans do not take back the GOP and rescue it from idiots like Hoffman and PJABBER, there will soon be no GOP left to save.

Hi Lemonade! I never thought I would see the day that you supported ANY Republican!

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As a democrat I can not claim to be a republican. That does not mean that I automatically reject the ideas of ALL republicans because they have an R after their name.

...And as someone who is not GOP, I am rooting for rational republicans to take back the GOP from you and your ilk. Failing that, since you can't lead, and can't follow, the better answer may be to let you destroy your own political party, and then it will mean that the GOP will be too small to get in the way of the normal progress all nations have to continually adapt to.

And after the GOP becomes irrelevant, there will be a hope that rational republicans can take back the GOP from the radical right and rebuild it into a viable political party.

I really have to laugh when you mimic the lowest minions of the Democrat Party and "wish" for the Republicans to become radical progressive Democrats. Won't the Democrat Party tent be big enough for you once you kick out the Blue Dogs?

It is not up to me, but to the Republicans to make their own case. As the radical progressives have done their best to usurp the moderation of the Democrat Party and have been highly successful in doing so, perhaps, the libertarian/conservative wing of the Republicans will surge again in response, I just do not know.

As you and other "useful idiots" seek to impose a pablum fed vision of "progressive socialism/collectivism" on the nation, I, without a party affiliation, argue in opposition and encourage all to consider alternatives to the corruptive cooption of nationalization agendas and business as usual Chicago-style politics.

Our visions for the future are vastly different, but from where I sit it looks like the trend is my friend.

 

[JSt0rm]

he isn't asking the gop to become radical, thats where they are now. But talking to you is like talking to a pan of cat litter.