Taking his role a little too serious? 7th Heaven Pastor/Dad admits to molesting kids

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nageov3t

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No, it is for violence against the person recording. The facts do not support this being a legal recording. None of those exceptions apply in this case.

regardless, it's a bit of a moot point.

no DA is going to bring charges against a wife trying to out her pedophile husband, and if a victim comes forward, the recordings shouldn't be necessary as evidence in court (and wouldn't really prove anything anyways as he doesn't mention any victim by name)
 

DCal430

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Looks like the person means any person, so I was wrong. I thought it meant the person recording. There is an opinion piece on this from the cal DOJ.
 

Kev

Lifer
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As sick as what this man did, FUCK his ex. She secretly recorded a private counseling session between him and her and then sent it to the media? Fuck that, shes a literal bitch.

RTFA.

She sent it to the police in 2012, and it leaked without her knowledge.
 

NFS4

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What the shit!??

“The comment you made just before I gave birth to our daughter when you said you hoped we didn’t have a little boy, because ‘you just didn’t know if you could keep his little penis out of your mouth‘ was indication enough that you were sick …”

Grant goes on to regretfully say, “I should have followed my gut then, and then again 14 years ago, and kicked your ass to the curb.”

http://www.tmz.com/2014/10/08/stephen-collins-oral-sex-child-molestation-daughter-boy-penis/

 

mizzou

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so what the fuck, if he was this bad why the hell didn't she go to the cops? Why now??
 

nageov3t

Lifer
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so what the fuck, if he was this bad why the hell didn't she go to the cops? Why now??

she went to the cops when he first confessed this in 2012, but the cops weren't able to do anything as they couldn't identify the victim and none stepped forward.

otherwise, I can sorta empathize with her position. I had a roommate in college who was definitely a pedophile (I let him use my computer at first, until I found some disturbing shit in my internet history -- nothing that would be outright kiddie porn, but shit that no college-aged man had any business in looking at (think, shirtless prepubescent boys in provocative poses))... without any real kiddie porn or proof that he was acting on his fantasies, though, I didn't feel like I had anything to report to anyone.
 

Jodell88

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she went to the cops when he first confessed this in 2012, but the cops weren't able to do anything as they couldn't identify the victim and none stepped forward.

otherwise, I can sorta empathize with her position. I had a roommate in college who was definitely a pedophile (I let him use my computer at first, until I found some disturbing shit in my internet history -- nothing that would be outright kiddie porn, but shit that no college-aged man had any business in looking at (think, shirtless prepubescent boys in provocative poses))... without any real kiddie porn or proof that he was acting on his fantasies, though, I didn't feel like I had anything to report to anyone.
If you were married and you found out your husband was into kids, would you stay with him for years or divorce him ASAP?

His daughter was born in 1989. If the statements in NSF4 post are true, she stayed with him for over 20 years after he made those statements. :|
 

mizzou

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she went to the cops when he first confessed this in 2012, but the cops weren't able to do anything as they couldn't identify the victim and none stepped forward.

otherwise, I can sorta empathize with her position. I had a roommate in college who was definitely a pedophile (I let him use my computer at first, until I found some disturbing shit in my internet history -- nothing that would be outright kiddie porn, but shit that no college-aged man had any business in looking at (think, shirtless prepubescent boys in provocative poses))... without any real kiddie porn or proof that he was acting on his fantasies, though, I didn't feel like I had anything to report to anyone.

WTF!!!!

That is fucking disgusting...did you ever find out for sure he was doing that shit. You know, just possessing that stuff on your computer is a crime....burn that fucking hard drive he touched or turn it in to a detective for a forensic evaulation.
 

nageov3t

Lifer
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WTF!!!!

That is fucking disgusting...did you ever find out for sure he was doing that shit. You know, just possessing that stuff on your computer is a crime....burn that fucking hard drive he touched or turn it in to a detective for a forensic evaulation.

he flunked out after the semester that we dormed together, so I couldn't say.

I assume that the pictures weren't actually child pornography since none of the boys were naked or engaged in sexually-suggestive pictures, but it definitely made me uncomfortable enough that I started locking the computer any time I left the room.

pretty sure the laptop is in a landfill somewhere, this was about 10 years ago.
 

momeNt

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So a mother hears the father of her children say what he said about his potential little boy's penis, and sits on that for 14 years?

Thinking that maybe they both molested children, she only now is feeling regret. People like Collins, if the allegations are true, generally gravitate towards like-minded individuals. Or at the very least willing accomplices. I wonder why she turned on him now.
 

Jodell88

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So a mother hears the father of her children say what he said about his potential little boy's penis, and sits on that for 14 years?

Thinking that maybe they both molested children, she only now is feeling regret. People like Collins, if the allegations are true, generally gravitate towards like-minded individuals. Or at the very least willing accomplices. I wonder why she turned on him now.
She sat on it for about 23 years. Her daughter was born in 1989.
 

Brovane

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So it sounds like in CA and NY they might run into statue of limitations issues because the incidents occured so long ago. I bet the DA's are hoping that with the publicity more people will come forward with more recent incidents.
 

momeNt

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She sat on it for about 23 years. Her daughter was born in 1989.

Oh, right. Yea she has been divorced for 9+ years but this is only now coming out.

Likely they stopped coming to an agreement on which children to abuse so they went their separate ways to prey independently.
 

tynopik

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What the shit!??

“The comment you made just before I gave birth to our daughter when you said you hoped we didn’t have a little boy, because ‘you just didn’t know if you could keep his little penis out of your mouth‘ was indication enough that you were sick …”

Grant goes on to regretfully say, “I should have followed my gut then, and then again 14 years ago, and kicked your ass to the curb.”


http://www.tmz.com/2014/10/08/stephen-collins-oral-sex-child-molestation-daughter-boy-penis/

Now I seem to recall a senate(?) race (maybe in virginia?) where the dem candidate wrote a book that involved the father sucking on his boy's penis and everyone was trying to defend it as just a cultural thing and perfectly fine

edit: it was Jim Webb
 
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feralkid

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So it sounds like in CA and NY they might run into statue of limitations issues because the incidents occured so long ago. I bet the DA's are hoping that with the publicity more people will come forward with more recent incidents.



 

NFS4

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Now I seem to recall a senate(?) race (maybe in virginia?) where the dem candidate wrote a book that involved the father sucking on his boy's penis and everyone was trying to defend it as just a cultural thing and perfectly fine

edit: it was Jim Webb

Wait, what? How could anyone defend that? UGH!
 

WelshBloke

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Isn't that how boys were circumsized at one point? I seem to recall a story of a rabbi passing on herpes or something....
Now I'm not claiming to be an expert on Jewish history and culture but I'm betting that chewing the end of a child's penis off has never been seen as normal.
 

JEDI

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Sep 25, 2001
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why on earth would he admit that he flashed 3 little girls?

and where did the molestration come in?
 
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