"Taliban says most of ancient Buddhas destroyed..."

Schola

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I'm not religious in any way, but the past is the past and it needs to be preserved for the younger generations. Crazy people like the Taliban make me sick.
 

StageLeft

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I am atheist but the people who are doing this will rott in hell where they belong.

Gah, that f-ing disgusts me. Nothing is more hypocritical than destruction under your deitie's name.
 

vi edit

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Pussies. If they really want to prove what men they are, why don't they try to take on somebody that can at least put up a fight...like oh...say Isreal. :|

This is just sickening.
 

etech

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Women in Afghanistan:

"After taking control of Afghanistan in 1996, the Taliban regime has imposed a strict interpretation of Islam and has restricted women's right to an education, employment and appropriate access to health care.
Women are totally deprived of basic human's rights:
The right to education
The right to work
The right to travel
The right to health
The right to legal resourses
The right to recreation
The right to be a WOMAN
The punishment for breaking these strict Taliban rules is extremely severe as well. Women can be stoned to death for walking with a man that is not a relative. Some women have been beaten for not being properly dressed and women have been shot for living there home without a male relative to accompanied them. In 1999, a woman was publicly executed for the first time in a stadium full with thousands of spectators, for beating her husband."

Agree with Dennil,
While I deplore the destruction of the statues for their historical value, words are not adequate to describe what they are doing to the women of their country.
 

AlphaIVT

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why are those sorry pussies blowing them up!!!! :| Why do'nt we just go there, tear every Talibanian to pieces and save the statues, they're worth more than all their crappy lives added together :|
 

Jmman

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Yeah, the difficulties that women face in the middle east are hard for us to understand since our belief system is so different. As strange as their customs are to us though, I think their right to sovereignty has to be upheld. Even though you may not agree with their philosophies, think about another country coming to us and trying to change some of our policies or beliefs (like maybe the death penalty or criminal convictions of children). They don't get very far, now do they. Our belief in our own intellectual and social superiority and our need to interfere with sovereign states is one of the reasons that we are disliked so much in many parts of the world......Just something to think about.
 

LadyJessica

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Yeah? Tell that to the women living under the rule of the Taliban. I'm sure they'd love to have someone intervene on their behalf.
 

ForeverSilky

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In Afghanistan, I think punishment for being a homosexual is death by having a brick wall collapse on you, or something to that effect. That's what I heard anyway.
 

Spoooon

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Well, I tend to agree with Jmman about women's rights. In our views, it's wrong. But you have to not look at things ethnocentrically. No doubt, there are people in Afghanistan, including women, that feel that we in the US live in sin. Are they right? No. Are we right imposing our beliefs onto them? No. However, the preservation of history goes beyond ethnocentrism. It is something that is important to all cultures. The Taliban wanting them destroyed smacks of sensationalism rather than religion. I get the feeling that they just want to call attention to themselves, not destroy the Buddhas for any religious purpose.

I do feel that everyone is deserving of certain rights and that what is happening to the women is wrong, but we can't do anything about it.
 

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<< Yeah, the difficulties that women face in the middle east are hard for us to understand since our belief system is so different. As strange as their customs are to us though, I think their right to sovereignty has to be upheld. Even though you may not agree with their philosophies, think about another country coming to us and trying to change some of our policies or beliefs (like maybe the death penalty or criminal convictions of children). They don't get very far, now do they. Our belief in our own intellectual and social superiority and our need to interfere with sovereign states is one of the reasons that we are disliked so much in many parts of the world......Just something to think about. >>



And we should just stand by and watch it happen? That's bullcrap! Even though the USA has plenty of it's own internal inequalities, the freedoms enjoyed far surpass that of all other countries. The Taliban is a freaking mental case and is dangerous. As an American, I don't feel I am intellectually or socially &quot;superior&quot;. I just know what's right and what's wrong. The Taliban is just plain wrong. Oh, and &quot;they&quot; dislike us? So what? I dislike &quot;them&quot; too, for what they are doing. You can't get much more politically incorrect than that, now can you?
 

StageLeft

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I don't believe in cultural relativism, because if you do then you can't condone organizations like Amnesty International. If you say &quot;oh thats how they do it, its different - not wrong&quot;, then we can't look down on a woman being killed for being seen with another man and we can never judge any other society. Of course we do judge...cultural relativism may &quot;sound good&quot;, but in practice none of us really preach it - and I don't think we should. Why do we believe what we do? Because we think its best - so its right for us to judge others by it.

Just as some religious people may say I'm going to hell because I don't believe in God. Thats fine, and I understand them judging me. I disagree but I'd think them a pushover if they didn't judge by what they believe.

Af. can go to hell with is bullsh*t!
 

DefRef

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Gee, to hear American feminists talk, you'd think that the Catholic church and the Dubya administration are the most anti-woman outfits around.[/irony]
 

dennilfloss

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The educated women who managed to escape within a couple of years after the Taliban took power, some of them former university professors, sure don't seem to think that the actions of that ruling body are OK. One of them who gave a speech at the University of Ottawa compared them to the Khmer Rouge.

Rescue Me (Aretha Franklin)
 

Spoooon

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One thing we fail to consider is culture lag. Here in the states, we have a relatively &quot;advanced&quot; culture. Mostly due to our technological advantages, wealth, and so on. This gives us the freedom to grow, get educated, etc. Then you have a culture like in Afghanistan. They have relatively modern conveniences, but &quot;ancient&quot; social practices. However, they are exposed to the way other cultures work. It causes culture shock and even a backlash against any reduction in some of their extreme (women's rights) views. They hold on to what they consider important even more so than before. It's like in Star Trek where they can't participate or alter events in other cultures they find. Whether they have abhorrent beliefs, they are allowed to continue to practice them in the hopes that they become evolved. It might be hard to stomach, but it's probably the only way. The past has shown how useless the US is in altering the destinies of other cultures (Vietnam).
 

StageLeft

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Yes the backlash...because 2/3 of the human population is stupid, un-critical, and moronic. Grr!
 

Jmman

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&quot;As an American, I don't feel I am intellectually or socially &quot;superior&quot;. I just know what's right and what's wrong.&quot;

I think you just proved my point. What's right and what's wrong are strictly subjective viewpoints. Anyway, don't get me wrong, I would not like my Mother or daughter living there, but it isn't our job to solve the world's problems. What about the genital mutilation in Africa? Did you know that women can't vote in Kuwait? Did you know that in many middle eastern countries women can be legally killed for soiling their families honor? Where do you draw the line? What about countries that don't have a representative democracy? Do we go in there and take them over? I see nothing wrong with engagement, discussion, assistance, whatever, but at the end of the day these sovereign countries need make their own decisions about how they are to be ruled. We didn't like it any better when Britain tried to control us during the colonial days. Remember, we had a little revolution because of that. To attempt to force our viewpoint on the rest of the world makes us no different than the thugs and bullies we are trying to get rid off....
 

KaBudokan

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Well, I don't believe that it is right to just accept fundamental human rights violations as &quot;their way.&quot; It was thew Nazi's culture to exterminate Jews, but that doesn't make it right, does it?

Because a form of hate has persisted for thousands of years, that doesn't make it any more right than one that has persisted for 50.
 

freak-o-a-l

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I don't care where someone is from, people are people no matter what nationality, religion, race, etc. Killing innocent people is wrong, period. It's that simple. It's not like these women are being killed for murdering someone, they are completely innocent and have hurt no one. These actions show a complete lack of respect for human life.
 
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