Talk me out of getting a Golf GTI 2 door

Childs

Lifer
Jul 9, 2000
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I have an itch to get a new car, and I think I will go back to a hatchback. I'm looking at the 2 Door GTI SE w/Performance Package. Any dealbreakers and feedback from owners? I will probably trade in my 12 Challenger RT.



I'm not really interested in the R. I dont drive fast anymore, and I would prefer a 2 door.
 

Wuzup101

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Feb 20, 2002
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Go drive a new WRX (sedan only unfortunately) and Focus ST first. Recently drove all three with a friend who was/is car shopping... GTI was most meeh on the list.
 

Dice144

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I had nothing but issues with my VW. Going to avoid the brand like the plague.
 

Childs

Lifer
Jul 9, 2000
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Go drive a new WRX (sedan only unfortunately) and Focus ST first. Recently drove all three with a friend who was/is car shopping... GTI was most meeh on the list.

I was looking at the Focus and Fiesta awhile back, but this time around I passed on the Focus ST because the fuel economy was better on the GTI, and the Fiesta ST has poor exterior color options. Plus, neither Ford has the equivalent of DCC (dynamic chassis control).
 

bradly1101

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No personal experience, just disappointment from a family VW New Beetle owner who had A LOT of reliability issues. The other half of the family have been very happy Toyota owners (including me and my 23 year old Previa).
 

Childs

Lifer
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I was looking for drivers leg room, practical cargo space, and the ability to drive fun on a rare occasion. The rest of the time I would like decent fuel efficiency. I had one fun 1500K mile road trip with my Challenger, and I havent pushed the car at all since then.
 

Imported

Lifer
Sep 2, 2000
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Drivers leg room? How tall are you? I've never had a car that lacked in leg room at 5'11. Backseats on the other hand...

Definitely sounds like the GTI would be better suited for you than the WRX though.
 

xaeniac

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That car has everything going for it but reliability. I love the gtis but scared of the reliability aspect.
 

Harrod

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I don't own a GTI, but my sister does, I changed out the water pump for her around Christmas. She's had a couple major things go wrong with it, I think there was something that happened to the throttle body, and another issue where the car wouldn't start at all.

Here is a fun picture I took when changing the water pump out.



I think hers is a 2010, I'm under the impression that there are some good ones out there, and then there are some that seem to have issues more frequently.
 

Childs

Lifer
Jul 9, 2000
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Drivers leg room? How tall are you? I've never had a car that lacked in leg room at 5'11. Backseats on the other hand...

Definitely sounds like the GTI would be better suited for you than the WRX though.

I'm 6'1", but long legs. Also a wide shoulders and arms length for someone 6'6". Maybe leg room wasnt the right way to describe it. I remember my Mazda 3 and Civic hatch feeling cozy, but I was 50lbs heavier then.

Anyways, just looking at the specs and some reviews, the GTI seemed the best option. I just dont know if these Golfs are any good. I haven't driven a VW since high school (20+ years ago). I probably wont have it for more than a few years before I get the itch to get something else.
 

Demo24

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Can't do it cause I'm doing the same thing except in 4dr, cause it looks a lot better and more functional. However, if you've found a performance pack on the lot you've not long! Those are generally hot items unless there is no lighting package.

However, if you want to wait 2016's won't be too long from now and they fix the infotainment (apple car play, android auto), which is kinda poor on 2015's.
 

michal1980

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Mar 7, 2003
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Really depends what you're looking for in a car. The GTI gains almost 20 points cause of space and appearances whereas the WRX is the more fun, faster, and better handling car according to their points.

and the wrx interior is still stuck on 80s quality.
 

pauldun170

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Really depends what you're looking for in a car. The GTI gains almost 20 points cause of space and appearances whereas the WRX is the more fun, faster, and better handling car according to their points.

It seems their is a lot of "but"s in their comments on the WRX

And, if you’re willing to drop the clutch of your personal car with somewhere north of 6000 rpm showing on the tachometer, the WRX can bolt to 60 mph seven-tenths of a second quicker than the GTI can (5.1 seconds to 5.8).
But that is really the crux of the biscuit, isn’t it? In the real world, without the brutal launch, the WRX gets to 60 mph (from a 5-mph roll) in 6.6 seconds. The GTI, which is down 48 horsepower on the WRX, goes from 5 to 60 mph in 6.7 seconds. The difference in times speaks specifically to the WRX engine’s lack of flexibility.
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Compounding the uneven power delivery is a touchy throttle that, even with the measured use of your right foot, results in a festival of herking and jerking. Outside of the loop (like, for example, the roughly five hours of driving it takes for us to get there), the WRX’s tensed suspension is tiresome, thwacking and heaving uncomfortably down the road. Tire and wind noise add to the unnecessary sensory assault. And the thing wanders on the highway as if it carries with it its own heavy crosswinds that affect no other nearby vehicles.
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In the “powertrain” section, the GTI takes a seven-point win despite its substantial horsepower deficit. The thanks go to the engine’s linear, torque-rich delivery. It also enjoys a superior-shifting six-speed manual and a stunning 4-mpg fuel-efficiency advantage (26 mpg C/D observed to the WRX’s 22). The same goes for the “chassis” category: The GTI blunts the WRX’s small outright performance advantage (slightly shorter braking performance and 2.5-mph-higher speed through our slalom) by delivering spectacular steering, excellent brake feel, and ride quality that is so much better than the WRX’s that it more than erases the Subie’s small handling edge.
 

SearchMaster

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Jun 6, 2002
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Get it - they're great cars if the reliability doesn't concern you. I've had too many friends and family members with VW headaches and didn't want to take that route but they are better cars than my Focus ST in most ways. A stage 1 tune will give them a very healthy HP boost as well. There's a guy on the ST forums I visit that traded in for a GTI and while he loved his ST, he can't stop bragging on his GTI. There are some things he misses though.
 

olds

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Mar 3, 2000
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I was looking for drivers leg room, practical cargo space, and the ability to drive fun on a rare occasion. The rest of the time I would like decent fuel efficiency. I had one fun 1500K mile road trip with my Challenger, and I havent pushed the car at all since then.
If you're looking to save money on fuel, go with the VW.
 

Yuriman

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Jun 25, 2004
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If you're looking to save money on fuel, go with the VW.

However, if you're looking to save money overall, don't go with the VW.

General consensus here is, I think, that they're great to lease and dump in 2-3 years, but if you're buying to own, you do not want a VW.
 

Spicedaddy

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I loved my MK5 GTI, go for it! I haven't driven the MK7, but it seems to be a great car.

Only thing: I'd get the 4 door version. 2 doors is always a hassle, even if you don't have passengers, just putting stuff in the back is annoying.
 

olds

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Mar 3, 2000
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If you're looking to save money on fuel, go with the VW.

However, if you're looking to save money overall, don't go with the VW.

General consensus here is, I think, that they're great to lease and dump in 2-3 years, but if you're buying to own, you do not want a VW.
I made my statement based on the fact that it would be parked often for repairs. No drive, no fuel used.
 
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