Targeted by Employer - Random Drug Screening

GobBluth

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Sep 18, 2012
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First things first, I passed both tests because, well, I don't do drugs.

That said, I kind of feel targeted in this whole "random" screening. Here is the scenario. During a tumultuous time in my personal life, some of that stress spilled over into my work. I got to the point where maybe my appearance wasn't on point, let the beard go a little, didn't tuck in my shirt, stop pressing a crease into my slacks etc. It was a really tough time. In the middle of that I got hit with two random screenings in three weeks. Both resulted cleanly, as expected, but what a convenient time to test for drugs, right? A decline in work performance and professionalism, usually signs of some form of drug or alcohol use. Truth is, I just had a really horrible patch of events happen at home, and it kind of consumed me a bit.

The policy at work states that all drug screenings are random, unless a work related accident in which workman's comp could be an issue happens.

If that is true, then it really is a fantastic coincidence about the time of my screenings. That was a good while ago, so now, that everything is settled, I'm back to my normal self, my boss and I have laughed and joked about that rough patch and made light of it, except that I he said once "Yeah, I didn't know if it was home stress, work stress, hell drugs or alcohol, you were just a mess for a while."

That statement right there was the light bulb. Ok, it had to have been intentional. I, nor anyone else in my inner working circle, have seen drug screenings going on in over a year.

I don't really care if I was targeted, I don't have anything to hide from a piss test, however, do you guys feel like employers do this often? The old "how random is random?" question? If they do, that is kind of messed up since it is embarassing to whip out the ol John Thomas in front of a co-worker.

Cheers!

Gob
 

clamum

Lifer
Feb 13, 2003
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There's no fine print that basically says "In addition to random drug screenings, we reserve the right to test at our discretion"?

I'd maybe feel a little targeted, but probably wouldn't care much about it. At one point in my life I probably would've been pissed (cause I would've probably been doing drugs, and had a different outlook/attitude on drugs at that time) but now I don't give a crap about drug screenings. I still think our drug policy in general is fairly idiotic, but that's another topic.
 

edro

Lifer
Apr 5, 2002
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I was given a random drug test a few weeks after returning from a trip to Amsterdam.
 

CraKaJaX

Lifer
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Sounds targeted, but you really can't prove anything. With nothing to hide, I don't see the big deal anyway. My company claims random tests as well, though I haven't been hit with one since being here (going on 3 years now). One of my co-workers got selected TWICE in the same day. Makes me wonder how the hell they randomly select people. Obviously the system is a little messy... unless they thought this guy would piss clean and then light a joint immediately after the test. We still joke about it.
 

GobBluth

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It isn't really a big deal to be personally. Like I said, I have nothing to hide. I just find it funny that we work in an environment now where employees can be singled out and accused of drug or alcohol abuse just because they were going through a rough patch. At my employer at least, if you are getting drug tested, everyone knows about it since we do it in house and have a staffed lab to perform and result it. So it is a little embarrassing and nothing more.

I had that same thought with the two tests 3 weeks apart. They must have thought I was going to pass the first one and go "Hell yeah, time to smoke some cheeba!" I'm not mad, just wondered if this had become the employer norm, per se.
 

Nashemon

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16 years of working and I've never been drug screened after being hired.

If I was, I wouldn't stress it. It be more of a boo-ya bitch. Passed your little test shenanagans. If it for some reason became a routine thing, I think I would start demanding compensation for my time to get tested.

If they do, that is kind of messed up since it is embarassing to whip out the ol John Thomas in front of a co-worker.

This would concern me, though. I would take all day to piss if someone was staring at me.
 
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Did they pay you to go take the test? If so, that's a big win!

I know someone that was tested randomly on the very first day he was at his new employer. He laughed. It's called random because:

made, done, happening, or chosen without method or conscious decision
 

TwiceOver

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Dec 20, 2002
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A former employer of mine had 3 "random" monthly. Never failed it was always a "Probably", a "No Way", and a "Maybe" picked.

That's also the only place I've ever been drug tested. I'm 50/50 on lifetime piss tests. There was no chance they'd fire me when I pissed positive even though that was the original rule.
 

Drako

Lifer
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Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone's not out to get you.
 

BoomerD

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Meh...for many, many years, I pissed in a cup when I was hired, after any kind of "incident" involving anyone on my crew, and randomly. Having a Class A license, I was automatically part of the "random pool," and a couple of times, I pissed in the cup 2-3 times in the same week...plus, working on the water, we were always subject to the USCG pulling up next to our barge and getting to piss in a cup for them. :shrug:

One time...I pissed in a cup 4 times in the same week...when I was hired, when a piledriver fell off the bent, a random piss...and a coast guard piss.

I never cared...it you got the money, I got the time. (I got lots and lots of OT and double time for waiting to piss in a cup.)
 

CraKaJaX

Lifer
Dec 26, 2004
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I never cared...it you got the money, I got the time. (I got lots and lots of OT and double time for waiting to piss in a cup.)

This is my feeling as well. If you want to give me half a day to go wait and take a leak in a cup, sign me up.
 

piasabird

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Well you could just use this as an indication that they noticed you looked like hell and that might be a possible indicator of an addiction problem. You should take notice that they have you in their spot-light and maybe it is time to fix whatever is going wrong in your life. Not fitting the company image can be a reason for dismissal. Maybe it is time for a makeover and an attitude adjustment if you want to keep your job.
 

piasabird

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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It is really hard to win a law suit against an employer. It will take forever to come to trial and you will make some lawyer rich. In the mean time you will not have a job. You might win, but in the Mean time look for a new job.
 

Scarpozzi

Lifer
Jun 13, 2000
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Sounds like you're feeling down.

I say do some hard drugs now. What are the odds they'll try to screen you a 3rd time?
 

skyking

Lifer
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I'm with boomer, I'm a pro when it comes to pissing in cups. The poppy seed thing is so old now. Any short test that would give a false positive these days would be laughed out of the lab. They have it down to quite the science now.
 

KaChow

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Here's my "random" story:

When I was in the army I was the screening NCO for my unit. Once a month I'd pick a number between 0 and 9 (I used a 10-sided die) and you were tested if your SSN ended with that number. One day my first sergeant called me into his office and said he wanted a screening done that week. He pulled out the unit roster, looked for a particular name, and said to me "this month's number is 4". He had heard a rumor that a soldier was getting high and, sure enough, he came up hot on the piss test. The test was as random as the first sergeant wanted it to be.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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In the military, the units I was with had a nasty habit of 'randomly' testing known clean folks pretty often, to pad the numbers for clean drug screenings. A few folks never got tested, and it was pretty much obvious to everyone. Those that cared about the numbers didn't have anything to do with the actual individuals in the unit though, so nobody was the wiser for it.
 
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