so are we taxing juice?
that's evil too. lots of empty calories. and acid. acid is bad.
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Milk doesn't eat away your teeth and has a lot less sugar.
Fortified soda would be just as bad for you as unfortified soda is now. The calories come entirely from sugar, so the calories would be just as empty and the carbonation and various acids in soda would still do just as much damage to your teeth.
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- Placing a tax on pizza is impractical because the ingredients can come from any source
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Too live in such a simple world... :awe:
Even disregarding the potential criminal aspects, the liability of turning away a patient because they're too fat is enormous. As such, no hospital will ever turn away a patient in need of emergency care, regardless of what the law says.
As for telling people what to do, that's the approach New York City is taking, and not only has it been wildly unpopular, it was also deemed illegal and stopped by the courts. Taxing sugary soda may seem unfair and arbitrary, but what is most fair is often not what is most practical, and taxing soda is as good a method as any to discourage its consumption and cover the costs of its use without flat-out banning the product.
so are we taxing juice?
that's evil too. lots of empty calories. and acid. acid is bad.
I'm not really seeing the outage.
Obesity is a major health problem, sugar-sweetened drinks are major contributor to that problem, and in many cases, taxpayers are shouldering the healthcare costs that stem from obesity. Taxing the consumption of sugary drinks is certainly fairer than burdening everyone with the costs of such consumption, and it has precedent from other "sin" taxes like cigarettes, alcohol, gas guzzlers, etc.
Pizzas are made from discrete ingredients that can be obtained anywhere, whereas soda is made from syrup produced by a single company. Again, you run into a problem of enforcement.
So no.
Seriously?
Home soda making machines are all over TV and in stores everywhere: https://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_rn...96,d.eWU&fp=eaa0c63a0214aaf8&biw=1024&bih=609
Fern
I'm not really seeing the outage.
Obesity is a major health problem, sugar-sweetened drinks are major contributor to that problem, and in many cases, taxpayers are shouldering the healthcare costs that stem from obesity. Taxing the consumption of sugary drinks is certainly fairer than burdening everyone with the costs of such consumption, and it has precedent from other "sin" taxes like cigarettes, alcohol, gas guzzlers, etc.
I predict that millions of California's fattest will flee this outrageous one cent an oz. sugary drink tax and the pressure that releases on the San Andreas fault will cause a massive earthquake with California itself rising in altitude above sea level thousands of feet and the rest of the North American continent sinking beneath the sea. I am just so upset over this I'm going to go punch myself in the face.
Seriously?
Home soda making machines are all over TV and in stores everywhere: https://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_rn...96,d.eWU&fp=eaa0c63a0214aaf8&biw=1024&bih=609
Fern
Taxing everyone, even those not obese, IS burdening everyone.
You want obese people to shoulder their burden, then you tax/charge OBESE people.
Fern
Instead of taxing sodas, the corn subsidies that contribute to the use of corn sugar a.k.a. high fructose corn syrup as a sweetener should be ended.
Sugar is harmful is consumed in high amounts but not as harmful as hfcs.
It's funny people are complaining about a soda tax when many states tax food, mainly southern states.
California DOES NOT TAX FOOD.
Soda is empty calories, and should be an occasional treat, and I am fine with it being taxed.
You morons should be complaining about your stupid state taxing the food you need to eat to survive, not a soda tax.
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=1230
from your own link. most states don't tax food.
If someone is an occasional user of soda why should they be punished? Why should they pay for someone else not being able to control what they eat or drink?
You'll probably throw out some bullshit excuse about health care.
easy fix. If your fat, you pay more for healthcare.
from your own link. most states don't tax food.
If someone is an occasional user of soda why should they be punished? Why should they pay for someone else not being able to control what they eat or drink?
You'll probably throw out some bullshit excuse about health care.
easy fix. If your fat, you pay more for healthcare.
CA is the worst state.
You have this all wrong. If somebody is an occasional soda user why shouldn't thy pay the tax? They are paying the tax occasionally not any tax for those who can't control themselves. If you don't want to pay the tax don't buy soda. You simply don't want to be an adult who accepts the fact that society can legally impose a sin tax. Perfectly legal. Repeat that over and over in your mind. Your attitude of charging the fat more for healthcare is equally immature. They already pay more if they are fat and try to buy healthcare themselves on the market and will probably be refused anyway. So they pay more because they copay more and they don't live healthy lives so they pay in tons of ways. But healthcare for those who can get it is equalized as a collective risk so that everybody can buy into it. It is created intentionally with the idea that those who aren't sick support those who are, and visa versa when those roles reverse.
Let go of the vine and start thinking.
There is nothing immature for charging fat people more for insurance. Its all about risk/reward.
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Risk must get priced into insurance. Otherwise there will be too much consumption by the slackers of society.
As has been mentioned multiple times in this thread, fat people are already charged more for insurance.
Please try to keep up.
"Being fat isn't always the fault of soda, so we can't tax soda, that would be unfair! There are other ways to get fat!"
"Being poor is always the fault of laziness, so just take away health care for poor people so we don't have to help fellow humans live! If they deserved basic health care they wouldn't be poor!"
Hurray for internal inconsistency in favor of selfishness and greed.