Tea Party wants Boehner Out

GTKeeper

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The Tea Party is hoping Boehner loses in 2012.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/50576.html

I have to agree here. Another empty suit politician that fails to deliver on their promises. I have to applaud the Tea Party for sticking to its guns and not getting pushed over here. We need to seriously tackle the debt issue/deficit issue. The only way to do this is by cutting the following.

Social Security
Defense
Medicare
Medicaid

Unless you have been living under a tree, those 4 items comprise ALL tax revenue received by the government in 1 year.
 

Jaskalas

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Jun 23, 2004
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The Tea Party sets its sights too small. If it does not destroy the entire GOP then it will be nothing more than the utter failure of a rabble of peasants crushed beneth the weight of its master.

'Dangerously high' deficits were $500 billion. Suddenly in 2008 we tripled the deficit. The GOP's elite wants to cut $60 billion, $100 billion? Peanuts. Pointless. They are not the solution, but a part of the problem. The GOP wants to play politics to score points, while doing NOTHING.

Bring us back the 'glory' days of Bush's 'small' $500 billion deficits and we'll talk about MAYBE how you MIGHT have done SOMETHING. $1 Trillion must be cut, to start. Then at least you're only as bad as Bush.
 

QuantumPion

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I hate how the GoP leadership is so afraid to clearly state and act on their agenda for fear of upsetting the media, whom lambasts them regardless of what they do in the end. It's battered-republican syndrome.
 

Phokus

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Yes, clearly the tea party should target only Boehner and not take responsibility for the fact that they elected tea party GOP congressmen who are doing the exact opposite of 'limited government' as well and looking more and more like mainstream politicians.
 

Fern

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Meh, my google-foo indicates this TEA party guy complaining carries no real weight etc; that he's a publicity seeker.

Also, there are claims that Boehner is handling the TEA Party freshmen pretty well etc.

Since this is 2011 budget, which ends in Sept, we're only talking about half a year. A $63B cut sounds OK to me. I'm a little worried about the economic impact of an immediate and drastic cut. Just get the trend going and keep at it.

Otherwise it should be noted that Boehner only controls the House of Reps, the other two budget players are not under his control nor in his party. He has limitation on what he can do.

Fern
 

comptr6

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Nonsense. Overall the impression I get at meetings is that the Tea Party is pleased with Boehner. Removing Boehner would be a enormous mistake and would upset leave many Tea Partiers upset and confused. On the positive side it would motivate the Tea Party & the GOP to find a leader to fill the void that Boehner left.
 

wuliheron

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What's this? The Tea Party doesn't want a boner? Are they lesbians are something?
 

JSt0rm

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The Tea Party sets its sights too small. If it does not destroy the entire GOP then it will be nothing more than the utter failure of a rabble of peasants crushed beneth the weight of its master.

'Dangerously high' deficits were $500 billion. Suddenly in 2008 we tripled the deficit. The GOP's elite wants to cut $60 billion, $100 billion? Peanuts. Pointless. They are not the solution, but a part of the problem. The GOP wants to play politics to score points, while doing NOTHING.

Bring us back the 'glory' days of Bush's 'small' $500 billion deficits and we'll talk about MAYBE how you MIGHT have done SOMETHING. $1 Trillion must be cut, to start. Then at least you're only as bad as Bush.

quick question. Didnt bush keep the numbers for the wars out of the budgets? And didnt obama put those numbers back in the budget? ITs a honest question I hope I get a honest answer.
 

JSt0rm

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actually I look this up myself. Bush did indeed keep the wars out of the budget and obama did indeed ad them into the budget. Obama made a big mistake trying to be honest.
 

silverpig

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You Americans will just have to get used to the idea of higher taxes. No one ever talks about that as a solution.
 

jackschmittusa

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Never thought I'd agree with the tea-baggers. lol

Throw the crybaby tan man out.

(I'm from Ohio by the way.)
 

ProfJohn

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actually I look this up myself. Bush did indeed keep the wars out of the budget and obama did indeed ad them into the budget. Obama made a big mistake trying to be honest.
You need to look it up again.

Bush kept the wars 'off budget' in that he paid for the wars by passing separate spending resolutions that were not part of the normal budget process.

But the wars were still included in the year end fiscal figures.

So Bush's $400 billion deficit did include the cost of the wars in it.

BTW the cost of the wars is less than 10% of Obama's deficit so stop trying to blame Bush and the wars for our deficit problems.
 

Lemon law

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Well, I can understand why the tea party wants Boehner to go, meanwhile they hide behind Boehner and get to pretend they are not empty suits propping up empty heads.

But if the tea partiers had the courage of their convictions, they would not just vaingloriously hope to beat Boehner in the 2012 GOP primary, they would remove him as squeaker of the house now. Are they mice or men?

Meanwhile, like mice everywhere, they hope someone else will bell the cat. And while they are at it, the T partiers will vote as Boehner tells them, while they tell their deluded supporters, pin a medal on me, for I verbally called Boehner not as tough on spending as he should be.
 

finglobes

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Boehner is a turkey but its not just him. The House Apporpirators are things hard on pols who want cuts. There's been a lot of infighting.
 

JSt0rm

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BTW the cost of the wars is less than 10% of Obama's deficit so stop trying to blame Bush and the wars for our deficit problems.

Yes you are right. Bush and the wars have nothing to do with our deficit problems.
 

Jhhnn

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Nov 11, 1999
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You need to look it up again.

Bush kept the wars 'off budget' in that he paid for the wars by passing separate spending resolutions that were not part of the normal budget process.

But the wars were still included in the year end fiscal figures.

So Bush's $400 billion deficit did include the cost of the wars in it.

BTW the cost of the wars is less than 10% of Obama's deficit so stop trying to blame Bush and the wars for our deficit problems.

Lies.

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt_histo5.htm
 

her209

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Social Security
Defense
Medicare
Medicaid

Unless you have been living under a tree, those 4 items comprise ALL tax revenue received by the government in 1 year.
Social Security - paid for by FICA taxes and the "surplus"
Defense - paid for by general revenue and borrowed money
Medicare - parts of it paid for by FICA taxes while other parts are paid for by general revenue and borrowed money
Medicaid - state funding is matched by federal government, federal government portion is paid for by general revenue and borrowed money
 

QuantumPion

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Social Security - paid for by FICA taxes and the "surplus"
Defense - paid for by general revenue and borrowed money
Medicare - parts of it paid for by FICA taxes while other parts are paid for by general revenue and borrowed money
Medicaid - state funding is matched by federal government, federal government portion is paid for by general revenue and borrowed money

 

ericlp

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Dec 24, 2000
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What the Tea party got all this crap moving and now they want to shift gears? Are the looking for the "D" gear? Sheesh... What a joke of a party. I would think they are pretty stupid to have thought getting the GOP back in would have "changed" anything.

Paper or Plastic you got two options and well, They aren't very good options to begin with. The two party system was broke a long time ago. It can't be fixed unless you can somehow oust the ENTIRE system and bring in new people not even related to government or politics.

I find it funny .... Voters remorse! The Tea Party sucks! You bought it, you can't return it in a few months.
 

ericlp

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You need to look it up again.

Bush kept the wars 'off budget' in that he paid for the wars by passing separate spending resolutions that were not part of the normal budget process.

But the wars were still included in the year end fiscal figures.

So Bush's $400 billion deficit did include the cost of the wars in it.

BTW the cost of the wars is less than 10% of Obama's deficit so stop trying to blame Bush and the wars for our deficit problems.

PAID for what? Paid for shit, we are still paying for it... Have fun selling your cool aid to your kids when China takes over! Thanks Bush! Worst president in US history....
 
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