Basic income, universal health care, lowering average work hours, etc.
IQ is the best predictor for income by far. Higher IQ, better job. Lower IQ, lower job.
IQ takes into account your ability to remember instructions and steps. If you presume anyone can learn a repetitive task as a route to a productive job that has the assumption someone could learn, and that there is a job for that. A, people may not be able to, and B automation may have already taken that job away.
)In order to better evaluate the predictive power of intelligence, the paper also includes metaanalyses of parental socioeconomic status (SES) and academic performance (school grades) as predictors of success. The results demonstrate that intelligence is a powerful predictor of success but, on the whole, not an overwhelmingly better predictor than parental SES or grades.
Empirical meta-analysis disagrees with you. Intelligence is a good predictor of future income but not really much better than simply looking at the income of their parents or how they did in school.
https://www.gwern.net/docs/iq/2007-strenze.pdf
Basic income, universal health care, lowering average work hours, etc.
The Left's response is two fold. First is that we need to educate people more, and the Second is to give people more assistance.
The problem with the first is that you cant educate everyone. Not because of a resource issue, which is also true, but because some people cannot learn what would be needed.
The problem with the 2nd is way more complex. Resources is an issue for sure, so get that out of the way. The other is how it would be set up. You don't want to take away the incentive for people to work. The government is also not great at doing this type of thing in my opinion, but, we may not have any better option.
As for a solution, dude I'm so not qualified to give one. I can at best speculate as to things I think might help, but its not going to be of much quality.
How old are you? I ask just to get an idea of what era of time you were in classrooms. I guess it doesn't really matter though since you went to a private christian school instead of a public school to see what REALLY occurs for most americans.
In my time in school kids could get away with murder. They could say "Ey yo fuck this shit I'm outta here" and all the teachers could ever do is shrug their shoulders. They literally did nothing and couldn't do anything even if they tried. That was practically a daily occurrence. Or just cussing out the teacher. The only thing that got any actions taken by the school was a fight - which simply resulted in a suspension which was practically a win-win for the people that picked fights.
At what point during those types of daily occurrences do you think kids will ever learn simply CRUCIAL lessons in life such as consequences for their actions? Or just general morals in life to respect other people?
Empirical meta-analysis disagrees with you. Intelligence is a good predictor of future income but not really much better than simply looking at the income of their parents or how they did in school.
https://www.gwern.net/docs/iq/2007-strenze.pdf
In fact, intelligence exhibited several correlations with the measures of success that were larger than the respective correlations for other predictors suggesting that intelligence is, after all, a better predictor of success.
Even if we gave a meager universal income, everyone on the left would still be up in arms that they are living paycheck to paycheck and that they can't possibly enjoy life unless they have 20 presents to open minimal for christmas.
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You were saying?
In order to better evaluate the predictive power of intelligence, the paper also includes metaanalyses of parental socioeconomic status (SES) and academic performance (school grades) as predictors of success. The results demonstrate that intelligence is a powerful predictor of success but, on the whole, not an overwhelmingly better predictor than parental SES or grades.
Yep, that is the one of the many issues. Because we expect a higher standard of living (rightfully so), our baseline would be high enough that the incentive would be for very high levels of immigration. We would quickly run into a resource issue.
I'm saying you either didn't read my post, didn't read the part of the abstract I quoted, or didn't remember your own post. lol.
You claimed it was the best by far and that is inaccurate.
So, you were saying?
I went to public schools for Pre-K through 6th grade, home schooled for grade 7, private christian school 8th through 12, graduated '99. I'm uniquely qualified to comment on this topic based on that, and additionally because of my sons struggle in a public school system with his learning disabilities.
Whatever you're trying to prove here, you've already stated you want to beat people you consider retarded.
People learn life lessons the same way, through experience. Some gained at home, some at school, and especially through peer interactions.
You can take your authoritarian, spare-the-rod-spoil-the-child-wet-dream and shove it. My father used that tactic and all it did was teach me not to get caught.
I went to public school K - 7th, private christian school 8-9, then returned back to Public 10-12. I'm uniquely qualified to comment on this topic as well.
Hands down K-6 was a cakewalk for the types of things I saw. It was right around 8-12 (which you didn't experience) to see what I'm talking about.
Again, what do you do when there is a daily occurrence of people getting up in your class and saying "Fuck this shit yo" and cussing out the teacher... all the while the teacher can do nothing. Whats the answer to that? More funding? More tutoring? More "Keep your hands to yourself" lessons? If you don't understand BASIC human dignity and consequences then there isn't any hope. No amount of calling them special is going to inplant morality into them. There is LITERALLY nothing that a teacher can do - which at one time they were taught as a position of authority. Now? They are seen as inferior to the kids themselves. Pathetic.
Lol, so your point was that it was not the best by far. Dude, it is the best by far as the data has clearly showed it over and over. If you want to quibble over the meaning of by far then have at it I guess.
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Not just that but the higher it goes the less incentive there is for productive people to continue being productive. That would the biggest and fastest collapse of all time.
The data clearly doesn't show that, as per my meta-analysis - it's not much better than simply looking at how much someone's parents made and you don't need a fancy test for that. The purpose of a meta-analysis is precisely to look at what the data has clearly showed over and over, after all. lol.
https://www.ksat.com/news/district-blasts-fired-teacher-says-there-is-more-to-story"With respect to the private lives of individuals, St. Lucie Public Schools (SLPS) normally does not publicly comment on the details of why an individual was released from duties. However, in the case of Diane Tirado’s campaign of misinformation, an exception is warranted.
Ms. Tirado was released from her duties as an instructor because her performance was deemed sub-standard and her interactions with students, staff, and parents lacked professionalism and created a toxic culture on the school’s campus.
During her brief time of employment at West Gate, the school fielded numerous student and parent complaints as well as concerns from colleagues. Based on new information shared with school administrators, an investigation of possible physical abuse is underway.
In addition, her refusal to incorporate students’ Individual Education Plan (IEP) accommodations (a federal mandate) into her instructional practices was deemed defiant and put students at risk. Her dismissal was not a result of grading issues."
The data clearly doesn't show that, as per my meta-analysis - it's not much better than simply looking at how much someone's parents made and you don't need a fancy test for that. The purpose of a meta-analysis is precisely to look at what the data has clearly showed over and over, after all. lol.
For the last time. IQ has been the best predictor of success in the studies done on the topic. Over and over this has been true, thus its the best predictor by far.
Way to take things literally moron. Were not talking about people with learning disabilities.
I don't think this is the rule, but there are enough for whom this applies that we are overall fucked. We are losing our herd immunity to ignorance.Kids don't exactly get held back any more and most parents are either incompetent or working too much to raise their kids right (or both).
This was pretty much my experience with far too many parents during my time working in a public school.It's worse than that, this isn't parent apathy. This is parental demand that their snowflakes are special and any system that does not pass them is automatically to blame. If parents see that their kids last four projects were not even turned in it's not the kids fault for being lazy and it's not the parents fault for being busy. It's the teachers fault because their kids are not getting the attention they need. And it's the schools fault for not supervising the teacher. And it's the districts fault for not overseeing the school. And it's the states fault for allowing a rogue district to exist in the first place. It's the fault of anyone else and everyone else, just not them or their shithead kids.
What a horrific world that would be.
That. What those losers were thinking about was getting high, getting laid and not having to work. Who the fuck decreeded that the 1 in 10,000 had to pay for the other 9,999 to do fuck-all with their lives? In that world the 1 in 10,000 acts like the other 9,999 and just thinks about getting high and getting laid and has no incentive to accomplish anything. Eventually there's nobody left to pay and all 10,000 of them starve. And good riddance to them.
Its more than that though. People derive a lot of self worth from earning through labor. Most of us would like to think that given the chance we would sit back and relax, but, that is probably wrong.
People need to feel productive and useful too. Being a person is complex. What you said is important though, so I don't want to let that pass by.