Why not? At 17 you're old enough to join the military and shoot people. Pretty sure that's > than the qualification for fucking a 23 year old.
Correct, but you can still kill people with consent, or even better, catch the bullets fired by others.I think the age to join the military is 18 without parental consent.
Correct, but you can still kill people with consent, or even better, catch the bullets fired by others.
Nothing magic happens at 18(when you have zero say in what they do). 18=17 for all intents and purposes. It's an arbitrary number. If your kid isn't competent at 17, or even 16, you failed as a parent.That is true, but as a parent I would not consent to my child under the age of 18 to enlist in the military.
Nor would I consent to my child of 17 having sex with someone 23 years old.
No.
How about a role reversal a 23 year old dude screws your 17 year old daughter.
Is that OK?
Would you give him a pass too?
That is true, but as a parent I would not consent to my child under the age of 18 to enlist in the military.
Nor would I consent to my child of 17 having sex with someone 23 years old.
Nothing magic happens at 18(when you have zero say in what they do). 18=17 for all intents and purposes. It's an arbitrary number. If your kid isn't competent at 17, or even 16, you failed as a parent.
That's exactly what I said.So did you let your parent know of their obvious shortcomings?
There's a lot of reasons why a 16 or 17 year may not be competent. Age is never a good indicator of social maturity.
That's exactly what I said.
There's a lot of reasons why a significant portion of the population *is* incompetent. There's an appalling number of adults that can't function at a minimal level. Age is is irrelevant.
In all fairness almost every state has an age of consent of at least 17, quite a few have ages of consent younger. Once they are of the age of consent doesn't matter if their partner is 6 years older or 60 years older, it's legal. That doesn't apply to teachers/students and I haven't looked up this states law but I'd wager if she banged a 17 y/o non-student that it would have been perfectly legal.
Which problem? Stupid people? Teachers stepping out of bounds? Kids making poor choices?How do you suggest we fix the "problem"?
Because, we are supposed to coddle our kids and protect them from the world in which they were brought up in by the parents of unplanned pregnancy. Imagine how all the bible and morality beaters would have handled things back around the Greek and Roman days. LOLWhy not? At 17 you're old enough to join the military and shoot people. Pretty sure that's > than the qualification for fucking a 23 year old.
Nothing magic happens at 18(when you have zero say in what they do). 18=17 for all intents and purposes. It's an arbitrary number. If your kid isn't competent at 17, or even 16, you failed as a parent.
Which problem? Stupid people? Teachers stepping out of bounds? Kids making poor choices?
Education would fix some of it, and some things aren't "fixable". Shit happens. Shit always happens. In the case of these teachers, they should simply be fired. It's a behavior problem, not a legal problem. The kids should also recieve punishment. Manual labor would be good. Suspension and nonsense like that is a reward on top of the reward already recieved.
Because, we are supposed to coddle our kids and protect them from the world in which they were brought up in by the parents of unplanned pregnancy. Imagine how all the bible and morality beaters would have handled things back around the Greek and Roman days. LOL
I tell these young teachers to take a vacation to someplace like the UK where fucking 16 year olds is legal.
They broke protocol. Welcome to life. Banging coworkers is bad business. You're at work, school, whatever to do a job, not play grab ass with Diane down in engineering. That throws sand in the machine, and should be discouraged. Not sure how much of a hard ass I'd be about it if I ran a business, but it would definitely be against policy.And kids should receive punishment for banging? They didn't break any laws!
The reason we don't let people in positions of authority bang underage kids is that they are in a position of authority. "Have sex with me or I will fail you. Have sex with me or I will bench you. etc..."
Now that's just crazy.Fucking 16 year olds is legal in that state just not when they are your students.
They broke protocol. Welcome to life. Banging coworkers is bad business. You're at work, school, whatever to do a job, not play grab ass with Diane down in engineering. That throws sand in the machine, and should be discouraged. Not sure how much of a hard ass I'd be about it if I ran a business, but it would definitely be against policy.
Now that's just crazy.
I agree with you that using a position of authority is bad and should be legally punished. But POA abuse shouldn't just be assumed because teacher. There should have to be proof she actually used her position of authority to influence him. A few weeks ago a substitute teacher got bust for being in a POA over the summer time, what authority could she have possibly had?
Fire the teacher, but I don't think there should be charges unless they actually took advantage.
I wouldn't have an issue if that law was rewritten that way but the burden of proof would have to be just the student's word. That being the case it would be absurdly easy for the student to exploit any teacher he had a relationship with for a very long time or face being a sex offender. "You can't stop having sex with me or I'll tell the police you coerced me. Bang my buddy too or I'll tell the police you coerced me". I guess they could do the same thing now but the burden of proof point is still valid, we'd have to take the student at his word since the abuse of authority would almost surely be a private conversation between the teacher and student.
She is also being held on child porn charges over images he sent to her. This is kind of unrelated, but something needs to be done with the laws about teenagers send pictures they took themselves and people being charged with kiddie porn.
Exactly, there was a case in West Virginia, IIRC, where they were going to charge a boy and girl similarly. Then add they started investigating it turned out about 95% of the school was guilty. As the figured out everyone that the pictures had been sent to. They ended up not filing any charges.There have been cases in australia where a kid will send explicit pictures of themselves to their boyfriend or girlfriend and the kid who sent it is charged with dissementating child porn offenses. The kid who received it can also be charged with child porn offenses. Minefield.......