Teacher Union Issues Support For Convicted Cop Killer

Patranus

Diamond Member
Apr 15, 2007
9,280
0
0
Between negotiating for more benefits and teaching their students, the California Federation of Teachers has adopted a resolution of support for convicted cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal.

Mumia Abu-Jamal was a former member of the Black Panthers who was found guilty of murdering Philadelphia police officer Daniel J. Faulkner during a routine traffic stop in 1981. Abu-Jamal was subsequently sentenced to death.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/04/11/teachers-support-cop-killer/

I hope the members on the teachers union continues to pay their dues to support these noble causes.
 

Matt1970

Lifer
Mar 19, 2007
12,320
3
0
They had a benifit concert for that piece of shit a long time ago. Truly discraceful.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
84,818
49,513
136
Are you guys at all aware of the circumstances surrounding Mumia Abu-Jamal's arrest and conviction?
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
84,818
49,513
136
Of course not, they had someone blow their dog whistle of 'OMG TEACHERS UNION' which immediately activated the outrage centers of their brains.

I grew up in Philly and so I'm intimately familiar with the case. There's a lot more to it than initially meets the eye.
 

Matt1970

Lifer
Mar 19, 2007
12,320
3
0
In a nutshell a handfull of witnesses saw him do it. He has had every one of his appeals denied and he had a post-conviction review where he pulled witnesses out of his ass and none of them had the same story.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
84,818
49,513
136
That would be the nutshell if you had a 3rd grader's understanding of the issue. Funny thing is that I'm perfectly ok with him being locked away, but I can see how reasonable people could think otherwise.

If I did that though, I'd be deprived of my precious, precious hate of teachers unions though, and we can't be having that.
 

the DRIZZLE

Platinum Member
Sep 6, 2007
2,956
1
81
That would be the nutshell if you had a 3rd grader's understanding of the issue. Funny thing is that I'm perfectly ok with him being locked away, but I can see how reasonable people could think otherwise.

If I did that though, I'd be deprived of my precious, precious hate of teachers unions though, and we can't be having that.

I've heard and read quite a bit about the case but I've never seen any compelling evidence that he was wrongly convicted. There's plenty of reason to be upset with people who support Jamal. The officer's widow shouldn't have to deal with this shit indefinitely when its clear the man is guilty.
 

Matt1970

Lifer
Mar 19, 2007
12,320
3
0
That would be the nutshell if you had a 3rd grader's understanding of the issue. Funny thing is that I'm perfectly ok with him being locked away, but I can see how reasonable people could think otherwise.

If I did that though, I'd be deprived of my precious, precious hate of teachers unions though, and we can't be having that.

I am not sure you have a 3rd graders understanding of anything, but even a 3rd grader could see he is guilty. Just look at all the different testimonies his defence witnesses have given. What was truly sickening was all the people running to his defence, including a LOT of musicians who had absolutley no clue of any circumstances surrounding the case.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
84,818
49,513
136
I am not sure you have a 3rd graders understanding of anything, but even a 3rd grader could see he is guilty. Just look at all the different testimonies his defence witnesses have given. What was truly sickening was all the people running to his defence, including a LOT of musicians who had absolutley no clue of any circumstances surrounding the case.

Sick burn, brah.
 

comptr6

Senior member
Feb 22, 2011
246
0
0
In a nutshell a handfull of witnesses saw him do it.

Yep, case closed. No one has ever been wrongfully convicted when witnesses testify that they're guilty:|.

He has had every one of his appeals denied
Bastard. If he wasn't guilty he wouldn't even have to appeal, they'd just let him out! The fact he's even trying let alone failing is further proof of his guilt:hmm:.

and he had a post-conviction review where he pulled witnesses out of his ass and none of them had the same story.
Figures. I'm sure the prosecution witnesses were all upstanding people and their stories all matched up with the evidence!

People like this POS are in jail because they are GUILTY plain and simple. Anyone who says otherwise supports murderers .
 

Double Trouble

Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
9,272
103
106
I don't care about abu joomla whatever, according to the justice system he's a convicted cop killer and should have been fried. I don't know if he's actually guilty or not, but that's neither here nor there, there's a legal process for resolving that question and I'm certainly not privy to all the details of the case.

MY question is, Why the heck is the California teachers union wasting time passing resolutions about someone convicted of murder 4000 miles away 30 years ago? Shouldn't they be focusing on ... oh, I dunno, figuring out how to teach? They appear to be more interested in politics rather than focusing on the workers they're supposed to be representing.
 

Mursilis

Diamond Member
Mar 11, 2001
7,756
11
81
Of course not, they had someone blow their dog whistle of 'OMG TEACHERS UNION' which immediately activated the outrage centers of their brains.

I grew up in Philly and so I'm intimately familiar with the case. There's a lot more to it than initially meets the eye.

As you've explained so well, apparently.
You didn't even give a link. Really?
 

CPA

Elite Member
Nov 19, 2001
30,322
4
0
That would be the nutshell if you had a 3rd grader's understanding of the issue. Funny thing is that I'm perfectly ok with him being locked away, but I can see how reasonable people could think otherwise.

If I did that though, I'd be deprived of my precious, precious hate of teachers unions though, and we can't be having that.

Regardless if he's guilty or not, is this something the Teacher's Union should even be involved in?
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
84,818
49,513
136
I don't care about abu joomla whatever, according to the justice system he's a convicted cop killer and should have been fried. I don't know if he's actually guilty or not, but that's neither here nor there, there's a legal process for resolving that question and I'm certainly not privy to all the details of the case.

MY question is, Why the heck is the California teachers union wasting time passing resolutions about someone convicted of murder 4000 miles away 30 years ago? Shouldn't they be focusing on ... oh, I dunno, figuring out how to teach? They appear to be more interested in politics rather than focusing on the workers they're supposed to be representing.

I agree that he should be in jail, I don't think there's enough evidence to overturn his conviction either. What I DO think is that there is enough controversy around the case for reasonable people to disagree without being TERRIBLE PEOPLE.

As for what the teacher's union does with it's time, why do you care? It's their time and their business.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
84,818
49,513
136
Great, I'll remember that line.

Oh jesus, really? Sigh.

If you can show how the union saying something you don't like affects your life in some meaningful way, then you would of course have every cause to question it. If nothing else I'm trying to save you time here. If you want to be offended by each and every thing an organization says that you disagree with, you won't have time for much else.
 

PokerGuy

Lifer
Jul 2, 2005
13,650
201
101
Who cares? It's their time and their business.

If you're going to focus on political stuff and play in the political arena, then don't whine (boo hoo, wisconsin, sniff sniff, ohio etc) and complain that someone is "attacking the middle class" when those on the other side of the political spectrum take steps toward neutralizing the political unions.

I agree with some of the other posts in this thread: the union has the right to pass some stupid resolution like that, but shouldn't they have something better to do? What is their raison d'etre, political commentary or worker rights?
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
84,818
49,513
136
If you're going to focus on political stuff and play in the political arena, then don't whine (boo hoo, wisconsin, sniff sniff, ohio etc) and complain that someone is "attacking the middle class" when those on the other side of the political spectrum take steps toward neutralizing the political unions.

I agree with some of the other posts in this thread: the union has the right to pass some stupid resolution like that, but shouldn't they have something better to do? What is their raison d'etre, political commentary or worker rights?

What are you talking about? A resolution of support for some guy across the country is such an insanely minor act that to state it opens them up for destruction by political opponents is absolutely ridiculous.

Jesus, people.
 

PokerGuy

Lifer
Jul 2, 2005
13,650
201
101
What are you talking about? A resolution of support for some guy across the country is such an insanely minor act that to state it opens them up for destruction by political opponents is absolutely ridiculous.

Why do it at all? What's the relevance of it to teachers in California and their work conditions? None. Same as with celebrities saying dumb things as if their opinion somehow matters, or some evangelist opining on world event as if he has anything intelligent to say. They should all zip it.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
84,818
49,513
136
Why do it at all? What's the relevance of it to teachers in California and their work conditions? None. Same as with celebrities saying dumb things as if their opinion somehow matters, or some evangelist opining on world event as if he has anything intelligent to say. They should all zip it.

I agree that it's pointless and a waste of their time, I'm just trying to figure out why other people care.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
84,818
49,513
136
Um, but the dues the teachers union gets come from the teachers who are paid by tax dollars. So it is the Tax payers business.

Wow, no. Insanely, hilariously no. Think before you post.

By that logic, every activity any person or corporation undertakes is the business of the taxpayers. If a policeman watches porn, it's our business because that porn was paid for with taxpayer dollars! (ok, who pays for porn, but still.) If a company that has a federal contract throws a party, we should all be invited because that party is paid for by our tax dollars! (I'll meet you there!) If you run a business and a public employee buys something from you, the tax payers become your boss, because your business is now being run with tax payers' money.

/facepalm
 
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |