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Shawn

Lifer
Apr 20, 2003
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Polish3d
What do you guys think about professors who read visit their student's facebook pages, and in some cases, browse them to a fair degree of depth?

I personally find it very inappropriate, and a tad creepy

Facebook pages are private by default. If you make it public, then no it's not inappropriate or creepy for someone to read it.

They didn't use to be. That must be something new. Either way if you registered a while back your account is not set for private.
 

Aquaman

Lifer
Dec 17, 1999
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I would be more worried about employers or prespective employers looking at my facebook or myspace.

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

dighn

Lifer
Aug 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: Polish3d
You are saying it's irrelevant, but I'm saying it isn't.

In this case my expectations are not unreasonable. Despite the continued arguments vaguely citing "public domain," the issue of whether or not it is actually appropriate for a professor to make it a point to search out their students' profiles and browse around their personal, out-of-class lives has not been touched on much in this thread, despite the fact that it was the actual topic in the OP.

I do expect that a professor ought to recognize the inappropriateness of such action in general

To be fair I do consider it a bit creepy, and there are few, if any, good reasons for a prof to do it aside from idle curiosity, which is harmless in itself but may still lead to bias.

But you can't control how others behave, especially when it comes to such relatively harmless acts, so you'll just have to take measures against it if it makes you uncomfortable, and in this case you can.
 

Ruptga

Lifer
Aug 3, 2006
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Originally posted by: Polish3d
You are saying it's irrelevant, but I'm saying it isn't.

In this case my expectations are not unreasonable. Despite the continued arguments vaguely citing "public domain," the issue of whether or not it is actually appropriate for a professor to make it a point to search out their students' profiles and browse around their personal, out-of-class lives has not been touched on much in this thread, despite the fact that it was the actual topic in the OP.

I do expect that a professor ought to recognize the inappropriateness of such action in general

Welcome to America, people here can basically do whatever they feel like on the internet. The question is not why should it be acceptable for them to look at arbitrary profiles, the question is why shouldn't they be allowed to look at arbitrary profiles. This is the underlying point of the public domain stuff people have been mentioning.

Also, in America, we harp on democracy and tend to go with majority opinion. So, the vast majority of people in this thread saying "you are wrong" means that you are, in fact, wrong. Your expectations about profs policing themselves like that really are unreasonable, however if you don't want certain people to see your profile you can block them all by changing a few options under your "account privacy" section.

You have been pwnd by ATOT, but if you get off your soapbox and let this thread die we'll all probably forget about it within a week and get on with our lives.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: Polish3d
What do you guys think about professors who read visit their student's facebook pages, and in some cases, browse them to a fair degree of depth?

I personally find it very inappropriate, and a tad creepy

I find facebook pages creepy. Were I a professor, I'd use every legal resource available to me to gauge the relative creepiness of those I'm teaching life skills to.

If some toolbag wants to spend their life on facebook without being aware of its public nature, then that's on them.
 

Special K

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Jun 18, 2000
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As many others have said, if you make your Facebook profile public, then anyone that goes to the website should be allowed to look at it. If you don't want strangers reading your profile, then make it private.
 
Mar 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: Polish3d
You are saying it's irrelevant, but I'm saying it isn't.

In this case my expectations are not unreasonable. Despite the continued arguments vaguely citing "public domain," the issue of whether or not it is actually appropriate for a professor to make it a point to search out their students' profiles and browse around their personal, out-of-class lives has not been touched on much in this thread, despite the fact that it was the actual topic in the OP.

I do expect that a professor ought to recognize the inappropriateness of such action in general

It is not necessarily inappropriate. Like I pointed out, they have at least 2 very valid reasons to do so.

Also, are you at some point going to answer the question how you know a professor was doing this? I think you're probably paranoid or are yourself a professor doing this and trying to validate your creepiness.

It seems to me you're trying to argue some arbitrary thing and have just made up a scenario, only you choose to keep ignoring people telling you why its not valid. In case you didn't notice the other 50 times it was pointed out in this thread, if you find it so creepy then block them. There's actually a lot of privacy settings that you can adjust so that you can make it so a lot of people can view your profile (or only certain parts of it) but still block cases like this.

Also, stop with the cliched pathetic social argument, you're just proving how inept you personally are and trying to blanket everyone else in it. You can dress it up however you want, but it doesn't change the fact that your argument falls flat and has no significance to your argument anyways.
 

DrPizza

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Mar 5, 2001
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Originally posted by: Polish3d
You are saying it's irrelevant, but I'm saying it isn't.

In this case my expectations are not unreasonable. Despite the continued arguments vaguely citing "public domain," the issue of whether or not it is actually appropriate for a professor to make it a point to search out their students' profiles and browse around their personal, out-of-class lives has not been touched on much in this thread, despite the fact that it was the actual topic in the OP.

I do expect that a professor ought to recognize the inappropriateness of such action in general

Why? Seems to me that the professor may be able to gather from students' interests different ideas for making lessons more relevant/interesting to the students.
 

TallBill

Lifer
Apr 29, 2001
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Originally posted by: DrPizza

Why? Seems to me that the professor may be able to gather from students' interests different ideas for making lessons more relevant/interesting to the students.

:roll:
 

Born2bwire

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Oct 28, 2005
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Originally posted by: Polish3d

And yes, your posts and the posts of others here are legitimate examples of poor social skills. You choose extreme negative over neutral or helpful responses, and there is an eagerness to tear others down here that is not typical to the way in which people who are generally positive behave; people who are genuinely confident do not make it a point to go around sniping at other people, and people are naturally repulsed by those who engage in such behavior.

Cry some more.
 

Swag1138

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Feb 7, 2000
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In answer to the point raised about negative responses in this thread: This is an internet forum. Internet forums tend to be anonymous. When personal responsibility is masked by anonymity, people tend to be exponentially more negative in tone, and much stronger in expressing their opinions. It is usually impossible to guage how a person would act in real life by their posts on an internet forum. All comments on social ineptitude here are completely moot and without any valid basis in reality.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: DrPizza

Why? Seems to me that the professor may be able to gather from students' interests different ideas for making lessons more relevant/interesting to the students.

:roll:

Oh? completely legitimate response in my mind. (yo--never been a professor myself; only a student)

unroll yourself a bit...
 

DayLaPaul

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Apr 6, 2001
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It is creepy, but last I checked, most people are creeps. If you don't like it, it's totally within your power to change.
 

sonambulo

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Feb 22, 2004
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Originally posted by: Polish3d
What do you guys think about professors who read visit their student's facebook pages, and in some cases, browse them to a fair degree of depth?

I personally find it very inappropriate, and a tad creepy

Just out of curiosity, how do you know if a professor is actually browsing your page? Disclaimer: I am not a facebook user so I am genuinely curious. Can users see who has been browsing their profile? Can users see who has been searching for their information?
 

kranky

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Oct 9, 1999
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It would be interesting to know what happened that inspired this thread.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: Polish3d
Originally posted by: Savij
Adjust your privacy settings, dumbass.


I always wonder what it is with insecure people who get pleasure and satistfaction by leaping to the first plausible opportunity to degrade someone else. It really shows loser-ness at an extreme level.

Anyway, your response and point is, not surprisingly, irrelevant to the OP. It's like my saying that someone stole something out of my apartment, but it's my fault for not installing secure enough anti-theft measures.


One should not need to make their profiles private to prevent professors from invading their Facebook pages. It is entirely irrelevant to a professor's job for him or her to delve into the social life of students. It's also, as stated, rather creepy.

i don't know anyone who would have viewing facebook as part of their job, except maybe it's creators, but apparently millions of people do it...
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: Polish3d
Originally posted by: moshquerade
If you put it out there it's public domain.


I disagree with that. It's publicly accessible, but so is my bedroom window with a telescope if one is so inclined to put forth EFFORT to do so. It's not like student's profiles plop down on the professor's homepage, they have to make a point of searching out their students and browsing around their pages; it's inappropriate. I shouldn't have to hide my profile to keep profs from snooping into my personal life

wow, you are retarded....
 

rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: Polish3d
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Polish3d
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Polish3d
Originally posted by: moshquerade
If you put it out there it's public domain.


I disagree with that. It's publicly accessible, but so is my bedroom window with a telescope if one is so inclined to put forth EFFORT to do so. It's not like student's profiles plop down on the professor's homepage, they have to make a point of searching out their students and browsing around their pages; it's inappropriate. I shouldn't have to hide my profile to keep profs from snooping into my personal life

so not the same.

all you have to do is click and you can read someone's personal info and see pictures they've chosen to make public.

the telescope through a bedroom window could get you arrested.

sure, no one likes to have certain things about themselves revealed to their parents, their minister, their teachers/professors. some things are private. so why not keep them private online too?



That's not the case; in order to find someone's profile on FB, you need their first and last name, you have to type it in, and once you've found it, you then can start browsing around.

It's less invasive than setting up a telescope and peering through someone's window, but there are similarities in the sense that just because something is possible to view, doesn't mean it's appropriate to do so, particularly when one must expend effort to do so.

Listen: You've set up a public profile and are complaining about the public browsing it. What do you expect us to say?


You're free to say anything you wish of course, but I disagree with the idea that it's somehow acceptable for a professor in a position of authority to make a point of digging into students' personal lives.

Ever heard of prospective employers checking out their interviewees on myspace or facebook? MAKE IT PRIVATE... it is your only recourse. If you want to show some sections and not others, it can do that too. They give you all the tools yet you blame it on someone else when they look at what you put out there, knowing it's available to EVERYONE.

You keep coming back to morals... I think EVERYONE has a certain level they adhere to, and then quite a few instances where they do not. Are you a perfect angel, OP?
 

Double Trouble

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Oct 9, 1999
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LOL @ whiney student. If you don't want him/her viewing it, make it private. There's nothing "creepy" about that, but there is something creepy about your inability to understand a simply concept of making information available for "public viewing". So they have to know your name/class/year whatever. So what? I have to know your name to look up a number in a phone book. Does that make it creepy?

Geez, grow up.
 
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
If you put it out there on the internet it's public domain.

added a bit...

If you don't want people looking at it, don't put it on the internet. If you *have* to have a facebook for whatever reason, adjust privacy settings then. If it's on the internet, and on a public profile then no it's not inappropriate. It might be a bit creepy, but not very.
 

Turin39789

Lifer
Nov 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: Polish3d
You are saying it's irrelevant, but I'm saying it isn't.

In this case my expectations are not unreasonable. Despite the continued arguments vaguely citing "public domain," the issue of whether or not it is actually appropriate for a professor to make it a point to search out their students' profiles and browse around their personal, out-of-class lives has not been touched on much in this thread, despite the fact that it was the actual topic in the OP.

I do expect that a professor ought to recognize the inappropriateness of such action in general

Student turns in assignment late/misses test. Professor follow up on facebook to see student status is "OMG I CAN HAZ JAEGERBOMB HANGOVER! CLASS TODAY NO THANKS YOU". Professor acts accordingly.

What is inappropriate about anyone acessing something put out in the public domain like that? I've certainly clicked on random peoples profiles when viewing an event or friends of friends just because I was bored and they made it public just to see if they were good for a laugh.
 
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