Team Anandtech Public SETI Queues: Part III

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aberant

Golden Member
Dec 6, 1999
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Evenin Ms Poof (my that was very wild west). Mr Soni has pointed out a slight error in my entry on the q list - i'm at www.aberant.d2g.com, not aberant.d2g.com 'wont work without the www cos i've got my client to redirect http requests to 5517 (the q's port). Thanks a lot !
 

MaxSiren

Senior member
Feb 19, 2001
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Attention all users of siren.2y.net:

With the upgrade to version 3.03.2.2b, there is a new option for users. If your email address is entered on the server, you can now receive email notifications when your clients fail to return the usual number of results. The actual threshold to receive a notice, along with how long before it is sent isn't known yet, but I'll try to find out ASAP. In the meantime, if there are any brave souls willing to try out the feature, please let me know.
 

dmcowen674

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Oct 13, 1999
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www.alienbabeltech.com
I think this is an appropriate place to place the SETI crew announcement from their Technical News page as they wrote a great thank you to all who made it possible, from their staff, the School staff and including Ken who wrote SETIQ as well as the users that opened their queques to the public. Outstanding efforts everyone on a worldwide scale again

As you read the news below you can clearly feel it was exciting.

Dave


Network Bandwidth Problems Solved

May 31, 2002

Yesterday at about 23:30 GMT, we switched our data server's route to the internet from the general UC Berkeley link to Cogent Communications with the hope of solving our long standing bandwidth problem. See the Planetary Society's article for a great description of the problem and the Cogent solution.
It is now twenty-two hours after the switch and things look very stable. We are sending on the order of 25 Mb/s outbound through the new link and should have plenty of room to grow. We are no longer dropping connections and the server is operating very efficiently. This ought to translate into successful and speedy data downloads for all of our users.
Many, many thanks go to the networking folks who put this together. The entire route from Space Sciences Lab to Cogent's Palo Alto point of presence was designed and implemented by UC Berkeley's Communication and Network Services (CNS). In particular, we want to thank Siegrid Rickenbach who was the CNS technical lead for this project and got the path between campus and Cogent up and running. Jay Bryon of CNS configured and installed the equipment that was used to trunk both the Cogent and regular campus traffic over the fiber-optic link between campus and SSL. He had to come in very early to schedule outages so that a minimum number of users would be affected. Our own Space Sciences Lab network manager, Greg Paschall, did all of the local work needed for our server to get to the new link. Kudos also go to CNS gurus Michael Sinatra and Ken Lindahl for their routing expertise and critical moment wizardry. Because we had to move off the the SSL firewall, we needed a firewall of our own. Netscreen stepped up with a firewall donation and great support besides.
Thanks also to Ken Reneris who wrote the SetiQueue software package, and to the countless volunteers who used SetiQueue to set up workunit caches, allowing others to get workunits when our server was unreachable. And, of course, thanks to all our patient users who stuck with the project despite the frequent lack of connectivity!
All big changes have unforseen problems and yesterday was no exception. An early morning test revealed a potential show stopper (or at least a show postponer). A test client from offsite, hardwired to come in over the new route, was not able to establish a connection. After thinking a bit at the white board, Michael at CNS figured it out. Incoming connection initiation was happening over the Cogent link. But the outgoing response was happening over our server's default route which was still through campus. This route passed through the SSL firewall which noticed a response to a request that it never saw (the SSL firewall does not see the Cogent link) and denied passage. Well, no problem we thought. We had to change our server's default route at the point of cutover anyway, which would send the response back out over the Cogent link. But not so fast. Our clients utilize the Domain Name Service (DNS) to find our server. DNS still had the old IP address (and by extension the old route). Thus, incoming packets would come in over the campus link and outgoing packets would go out over the Cogent link. The firewall would still see these "half open connections" and deny them. As long as there was asymmetry between the inbound and outbound traffic, we would have a problem. Now, we needed to tell DNS about our new IP address anyway and once this change propagated throughout the Internet we would be OK. But this propagation would take some time, during which nobody would be able to connect. CNS came to the rescue by telling the campus routers to redirect all incoming SETI@home packets to the Cogent link. This change was made at the same moment we changed our default route to send all outgoing packets over the Cogent Link. Symmetry was achieved! The link came up and performed very well. Watching the traffic graphs was an exciting and dramatic moment. We had a speaker phone connection with CNS during the cutover and hoorays could be heard on both ends of the line.
You can see the switchover on both sides: watch the Space Lab bandwidth plummet or the Cogent bandwidth jump.
 

Slaughter

Senior member
Mar 27, 2002
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I might as well pitch in with a queue, even though SETI has their bandwidth back, I perfer to use my queue.

Host: slaunix.dyndns.org
Port: 5517
Bandwidth 1.5/350 Approx.
Location: New Albany, Ohio


Enjoy.
 

Slaughter

Senior member
Mar 27, 2002
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I almost forgot to mention that my queue goes down when there is a storm in the area....no UPS. I would rather turn off the system instead of have it get zapped.
 

cthulhu

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Feb 19, 2000
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I noticed that seti has been unable to return results all day. I then noticed that my host has changed w/o my knowledge. Has there been a division of work for the queues? I changed my host back to orangekids which is the original host I was using.
 

Poof

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Jul 27, 2000
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cthulhu - there's no "round robin" setup for the queues to distribute the workload. Could be that whoever you were pointing to, was offline temporarily... or their IP changed and their dynamic DNS addressing hadn't propagated with the new IP completely yet.
 

serialb

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Mar 20, 2000
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My SetiQueue machine's power supply just died today. This machine has been a gateway for ICS. Now that it's dead and I plan to buy a router to replace it. That said, I don't think I'll be able to provide a public queue for the team.

Sorry about terminating the service without advance notice.
 

aberant

Golden Member
Dec 6, 1999
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poof - what wud b involved in a round robin for seti ? dont really understand how the dnet one works :S
 

Engineer

Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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The Federation Queue is technically down since the name Federation.2y.net won't resolve because of problems at DHS.ORG.

I'll try to get it up and running (resolving) as soon as I can get a login from DHS.ORG as I've been blocked....doh! :Q

For those needing stats...or hardcoding (temporary, as my IP changes every so often)...you can use...

The Federation Queue

http://12.222.195.150:443/

Proxy: 12.222.195.150
port: 443

 

Poof

Diamond Member
Jul 27, 2000
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serialb - that's a PITA! Good luck with your new router when you get it.

aberrant - because Setiqueue has to keep track of and create sub-queues based on the machine IP (and user), the round-robin idea would mean that every queue would have to have sub-queues for everyone using the round robin.

Engineer - that's a PITA too...

I've edited the main page to reflect the changes.

Thanks guys for all your help!!!!!
 

Confused

Elite Member
Nov 13, 2000
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Well, i've now had enough of IIS keep dieing because something else (SetiQ) is using port 80.

I have changed my SetiQueue to port 21, and IIS is on port 80.

So can you please update the list to say mine's teamanandtech.d2g.com port 21

Thanks Poof
 

Confused

Elite Member
Nov 13, 2000
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My queue will be offline as of tomorrow afternoon/evening GMT, as i'm moving house. I do not know when it will be back up, as the telco company (ntl) have screwed up and haven't called us to talk about getting a new cable line put in :| So, that means i *may* have to move to BT and get ADSL (or maybe even wireless DSL )

I will let you know when it is back online full time

Confused
 

Poof

Diamond Member
Jul 27, 2000
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Gotcha Confused (and also edited muttley's info)!

Good luck with your move C and getting a half-way decent ISP.
 

Poof

Diamond Member
Jul 27, 2000
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Beeker - you need to go to the Setiqueue home page, download the program per the instructions, plus read the documentation at the website on how to install it.

Then you'll need to"activate" the queue by sending it a completed WU. That will intitiate the download of more WUs.

If you want to contribute to the TeAm queues -once you have it going, you can post here, your IP and/or your queue's domain name and port where people can connect to it, plus include what region of the world that you are in and your internet connection's upload and download speeds. Then I'll edit the list to include it.

Good luck and if you have any questions while you're setting it up, post in the forum and we'll help you out!
 

Pjotr

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May 22, 2000
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I crunch for Team Lamb Chop *ducks*, but I'd just like to offer usage of my public SetiQueue for anyone who wants to.

http://sq.no-ip.org:5517

The queue is located in EUROPE - SWEDEN and is on an ethernet 10 MBit up/down connection.

I up the priority of new users to Normal as soon as I see it, no more than a couple of days.
 

Assimilator1

Elite Member
Nov 4, 1999
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Your ethernet being 10Mbps isn't the crucial issue ,whats your internet speed?
Thanks anyway

(Btw our team founder is a member of TLC.....at least the forum anyway)
 
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