Learn to Google. However, it's in the context of SLI vs cfx and the exact impression was that CFX needed 25-50% higher framerate than 40 fps in SLI to be of comparable "smoothness" (i.e. to provide a similar gameplay experience)
http://hardocp.com/article/2012/03/28/nvidia_kepler_geforce_gtx_680_sli_video_card_review/9
They explicitly state this is a multi-gpu only observation.
Don't need air guitar when i play piano. ;DI have a funny feeling you are playing air guitar
keys(badly too,just my mental image ),some of these review sites need to start playing around etc.some are.THANK FOOK!.
Don't need air guitar when i play piano. ;D
@ ferzerp: Thanks, I was looking for the exact H page with that topic.
If TechReport did such a sloppy job why are they being taken seriously by respected figures from all over the place, including AMD themselves.
Fermi are terrible at running current games at top quality levels, is anyone surprised? So are legacy AMD cards. This is why serious gamers regularly upgrade their graphics cards.
Don't assume that everyone who is interested in frame latencies is some rabid Nvidia fanboy. This should interest anyone who is keen on graphics technology. In fact it should interest people with AMD hardware more as they will get the benefit from the improved drivers.
The graphs already quantify it.
As you know they tested multiple games and more than one area within Skyrim and found stuttering in many of those games.
Don't try to make out that stuttering only occurs in one portion of one game.
If that was true why would AMD go to all the hassle of making a patch?
This is from a review where they actually play all of the games and draw their conclusions from the actual game play experience. Note that in their opinion the 7870LE is a "GTX 660 TI Killer". According to TR though the GTX 660 TI is better than the 7970. How can that be? LINKIf it was the intent for this card to be a "GTX 660 Ti Killer" then it has been successful at carrying that out. If you are in the market for a card capable of delivering a great game play experience at 1920x1080 resolutions, then look no further than the PowerColor HD 7870 MYST as it provides near Radeon HD 7950 level performance for Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition pricing.
I think people's perception is changing.They are not satisfied with raw fps they want more But I think TR indeed did a commendable job as it seems even AMD took them seriously.In the end smoother gaming experience for everyone win-win.
Yeah most people don't complain, because they aren't in the privileged situation of having a number of cards to compare. People see a bit of stuttering on their 560, they tend to think oh I should have bought a 570 or gone SLI.
AMD would be stupid to not be concerned about benches that show their product in a negative light. Don't infer more than that from it.
I see. So, even though nobody ever saw it, the problem was always there, but we didn't know it. So, when is nVidia gonna get off of their butts and fix all those Fermi cards they sold, and are still selling?
I see. So, even though nobody ever saw it, the problem was always there, but we didn't know it. So, when is nVidia gonna get off of their butts and fix all those Fermi cards they sold, and are still selling?
EDIT: I'll add this from [H]'s recent review of the 7870 TahitiLE. Latest drivers after the TR review had been published.
This is from a review where they actually play all of the games and draw their conclusions from the actual game play experience. Note that in their opinion the 7870LE is a "GTX 660 TI Killer". According to TR though the GTX 660 TI is better than the 7970. How can that be? LINK
The guy I was replying to was trying to infer that techreport cherry picked specific rare sequences that showed AMD in a bad light. All I was trying to say was that this wasn't true.
I take it you are suggesting that AMD admit there is a stuttering issue, but that this is purely a technical thing and not something that impacts gameplay experience?
Yeah it's a good card, and that's why I recommended it to someone on this very forum only today. It helps that it's actually cheaper than any 660 Ti atm.
You will note that HardOCP tested on completely different games and an even smaller selection than techreport.
And this is exactly why everyone is so interested now.
Previously reviews were just mindless representations of FPS numbers. Most reviewers don't actually do any real gameplay, they just batch a whole load of benchmarks.
Kyle has actually mentioned it in the past. I too have mentioned that single cards stutteredvlong before this article was released. I noted that a single 680 was smoother than a 7970, because I could detect that it was.
So its not fair to say no one has seen it, just very few have. My guess is that the amount of stutter you typically see is not high enough for the grand majority of people to notice or be bothered by it. But everyone's experienced will be improved when its fixed.