Techpowerup:Intel Says AMD EPYC Processors "Glued-together" in Official Slide Deck

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https://www.techpowerup.com/235092/...cessors-glued-together-in-official-slide-deck


Check the full press slides in the source. There's an interesting read there, even if there are those chuckle-worthy Intel comments that look like grappling at straws when real arguments are absent. But hey, that's this editor's interpretation. I reserve myself the right to be wrong, and to be slightly emotional at these underhanded tactics. It's just plain disrespectful for a company which stands on its engineers' shoulders to deride another's with no compelling argument.
 

Burpo

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Where's the source of these slides? I see him make remarks, "check the source" and "official Slide deck", but none is provided. Anybody can make a set of slides..
 

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Yeah and Intel uses cheap paste to glue their lids on so they're hardly ones to talk.
Even Tom's Hardware, a historically Intel biased site is completely thrashing Intel for its "very cheap TIM". http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/-intel-skylake-x-overclocking-thermal-issues,5117-2.html

Not looking for good Intel.. crazy artificial segmentation in both X299 and Xeons.. bad thermal paste... high power consumption compared to AMD.. cheap and underhanded marketing. Just seems so desperate to me..
 

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StefanR5R

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Where's the source of these slides? I see him make remarks, "check the source" and "official Slide deck", but none is provided. Anybody can make a set of slides..
These are Intel's own slides from their press event. They are so embarrassingly bad that almost no press outlet presented them. Four of the slides are shown in TPU's article, for the rest follow the first source link at the bottom of the article:
Embarrassment begins at "Bild 45/78".
 

Burpo

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I'm on intel's site and don't see these "Official" slides..
 
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Technotronic

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These are Intel's own slides from their press event. They are so embarrassingly bad that almost no press outlet presented them. Four of the slides are shown in TPU's article, for the rest follow the first source link at the bottom of the article:

Embarrassment begins at "Bild 45/78".
I have been into tech since about 2000 and I am not sure I have ever seen something look just so.. desperate. Cringe worthy indeed. How did Intel with its billions of dollars let AMD catch up to them? Reminds me of the story of Xerox... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1rXqD6M614
 

Burpo

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Why aren't these slides available/viewable on Intel's site, in either Press workshop or otherwise? The aforementioned slides do NOT appear in the link above.
 

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Were there any slides comparing security features?

I suspect not, no doubt intel wants this to fly completely under the radar.

AMD really needs to show and properly explain their new security features, which look great imho.
 

Burpo

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There s one comparing the RAM CHs count, fraudulously....



Yet the slide say SKU vs SKU...

That's a BOGUS slide.. look at it.. The AMD crap on the side was added, and doesn't line up, fonts don't match etc..

BOGUS! PROPAGANDA! FUD indeed.. Conjured up slides to stir public attention and paint intel in a bad light.. Those slides don't show up anywhere on intel's site. Intel just wouldn't do that.
I'm surprised at you Abwx.. I expect it from csbin, but not you!

This BOGUS thread should be moved to P&N. It is just click bait.
 
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I have been into tech since about 2000 and I am not sure I have ever seen something look just so.. desperate. Cringe worthy indeed. How did Intel with its billions of dollars let AMD catch up to them? Reminds me of the story of Xerox... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1rXqD6M614

Indeed. Back in the Athlon days Intel wouldn't even mention AMD. Truly shows just how threatened they are by Ryzen.
 

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How did Intel with its billions of dollars let AMD catch up to them?

After Bulldozer AMD was pretty much out of any part of the CPU market that wasn't the bargain-bin or low-tier APU (and only because Intel graphics were terrible) so they got complacent. There's not a lot of reason for them to sink money into a new architecture when they one they had when they were so far ahead of what AMD had and there was no other competition. It was far easier to keep selling quad-core parts that were incrementally better for 6+ years.

I think they almost head to believe that AMD was pretty much hopelessly crippled and was relegated to becoming another Via. If they were taking them seriously, they probably would have started working on a new CPU architecture to replace Core years ago, but now they've been caught out woefully unprepared and have to scramble. Core is a great architecture and that Intel has been able to keep wringing out performance gains for this long speaks to the abilities of their chip designers, but at some point you need to start fresh and management clearly failed to do so.
 

Technotronic

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That's a BOGUS slide.. look at it.. The AMD crap on the side was added, and doesn't line up, fonts don't match etc..

BOGUS! PROPAGANDA! FUD indeed.. Conjured up slides to stir public attention and paint intel in a bad light.. Those slides don't show up anywhere on intel's site. Intel just wouldn't do that.
I'm surprised at you Abwx.. I expect it from csbin, but not you!

This BOGUS thread should be moved to P&N. It is just click bait.
Wow damage control much? It was dispersed to the press by Intel themself.. they are even on Anandtech.com. Relax dude.
 

Abwx

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That's a BOGUS slide.. look at it.. The AMD crap on the side was added, and doesn't line up, fonts don't match etc..

BOGUS! PROPAGANDA! FUD indeed.. Conjured up slides to stir public attention and paint intel in a bad light.. Those slides don't show up anywhere on intel's site. Intel just wouldn't do that.
I'm surprised at you Abwx.. I expect it from csbin, but not you!

LOL...

Here the slides source according to Computerbase.de :

Intel Xeon SP vs. AMD Naples (Bild: Intel)

It s written below the pics.

https://www.computerbase.de/2017-07/intel-xeon-skylake-sp-purley/3/
 

Burpo

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Indeed. Back in the Athlon days Intel wouldn't even mention AMD. Truly shows just how threatened they are by Ryzen.

They still "wouldn't" ..

Look at the bogus slides that ARE NOT LISTED AT INTEL all you want! They are NOT from intel.
 
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