That's why you aren't an enthusiast. Only enthusiast who are acknowledged or familiarized with overclocking, will not kill a videocard or CPU for that matter. So I wonder why nVidia just decided to kill overclocking? Skimping on VRM quality it seems. Just enjoy your Mac computer which is similar to a GTX 590, pretending to be cool while they aren't. :thumbsdown:
Put it this way. Is it impossible to replace whatever parts on the card that prevents OC. If so, than it can be OC. We used to soldier parts in and out before we can OC, until some geek invented pencil mod. The person who invented pencil mod is a good overclocker, and so are those who implement pencil mods to hardwares. And those who rely on a program to OC is...
"So powerful, it's kinda ridiculous" 3dfx commercials back in the day:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmaYH1F6kho
yup I agree, i remember how hard it is just to overclock, and you actually need to short cpu pin, right now you just only slide the slider
edit: Hey look. I joined the same month as "idontcare"
Idontcare said:At any rate, you are probably setting the record for longest time lurker here with ~150 posts over nearly 12 yrs.
We both prolly joined earlier than our displayed join date, the original AT forum we joined had some kind of database corruption/upset event (IIRC) and all had our join dates reset to Oct 1999.
I say this because I know for a fact I was active in AT forums in fall 1998/spring 1999 because I was boning up on information regarding hardware I purchased in the Spring of 1999.
At any rate, you are probably setting the record for longest time lurker here with ~150 posts over nearly 12 yrs.
We both prolly joined earlier than our displayed join date, the original AT forum we joined had some kind of database corruption/upset event (IIRC) and all had our join dates reset to Oct 1999.
I say this because I know for a fact I was active in AT forums in fall 1998/spring 1999 because I was boning up on information regarding hardware I purchased in the Spring of 1999.
At any rate, you are probably setting the record for longest time lurker here with ~150 posts over nearly 12 yrs.
That's why you aren't an enthusiast. Only enthusiast who are acknowledged or familiarized with overclocking, will not kill a videocard or CPU for that matter. So I wonder why nVidia just decided to kill overclocking? Skimping on VRM quality it seems. Just enjoy your Mac computer which is similar to a GTX 590, pretending to be cool while they aren't. :thumbsdown:
Yes, that's true, that's why I don't understand the fuss of AMD will void your HD 6990 warranty if you flip the switch. Pretty much the same thing than any manufacturer will do.
Yes, that's true, that's why I don't understand the fuss of AMD will void your HD 6990 warranty if you flip the switch. Pretty much the same thing than any manufacturer will do.
Wow. You are really laying it on thick. Using language like "AMD will not warranty something they have created". what the heck are you talking about?The fuss is, AMD put the AUSUM switch there EXPLICITLY for running the card out of spec. For overclocking. For overvolting. They put it there. Some people believeAMD did it to protect themselves against any an all warranty claims for this 6990 product because you just know that anybody who buys a 6990 is probably aware of this switch and will probably FLIP that switch. Something will probably register in the firmware indicated the switch has been flipped (besides tearing the yellow protective paper) and void any RMA claims they get.
The fuss is, AMD will not warranty something they have created. They have relieved themselves of any and all responsibility for these cards by including that tell tale switch that gives negligable gains. So, you void your warranty for nothing.
Now that I've said that, this is probably where the vast majority of the few 6990 purchasers here will state that they have never, nor will they ever consider flipping that AUSUM switch.
Something to that effect I would imagine.
But I think that kind of explains what the fuss is.
The fuss is, AMD put the AUSUM switch there EXPLICITLY for running the card out of spec. For overclocking. For overvolting. They put it there. Some people believeAMD did it to protect themselves against any an all warranty claims for this 6990 product because you just know that anybody who buys a 6990 is probably aware of this switch and will probably FLIP that switch. Something will probably register in the firmware indicated the switch has been flipped (besides tearing the yellow protective paper) and void any RMA claims they get.
The fuss is, AMD will not warranty something they have created. They have relieved themselves of any and all responsibility for these cards by including that tell tale switch that gives negligable gains. So, you void your warranty for nothing.
Now that I've said that, this is probably where the vast majority of the few 6990 purchasers here will state that they have never, nor will they ever consider flipping that AUSUM switch.
Something to that effect I would imagine.
But I think that kind of explains what the fuss is.
I really don't know what he was trying to say, expect to take a dig at AMD for whatever reason. AMD nor Nvidia is responsible for the warranty coverage to the end user, expect in unusual circumstances.Well nVidia wouldn't warranty my old 8800GTS either. Evga would though.
Isnt that exactly the same situation as the 6990?
The fuss is, AMD put the AUSUM switch there EXPLICITLY for running the card out of spec. For overclocking. For overvolting. They put it there. Some people believeAMD did it to protect themselves against any an all warranty claims for this 6990 product because you just know that anybody who buys a 6990 is probably aware of this switch and will probably FLIP that switch. Something will probably register in the firmware indicated the switch has been flipped (besides tearing the yellow protective paper) and void any RMA claims they get.
The fuss is, AMD will not warranty something they have created. They have relieved themselves of any and all responsibility for these cards by including that tell tale switch that gives negligable gains. So, you void your warranty for nothing.
Now that I've said that, this is probably where the vast majority of the few 6990 purchasers here will state that they have never, nor will they ever consider flipping that AUSUM switch.
Something to that effect I would imagine.
But I think that kind of explains what the fuss is.
I really don't know what he was trying to say, expect to take a dig at AMD for whatever reason. AMD nor Nvidia is responsible for the warranty coverage to the end user, expect in unusual circumstances.
Nvidia never did fix the problem, all you got back was a motherboard with a chip that contains the same defects. I've seen the same (repaired) units fail again, eventually people just gave up and bought something else.Nvidia did have the bumpgate incident that they shoved under the rug for many years. In the end they did kinda live up to it to some extent!
So someone is lieing <.< either Kitguru, or the fud artical quoteing Nvidia.After we published our story, Nvidia took the time to reply to Fudzilla and have said “NVIDIA’s reference GTX 590 VBIOS on the production boards has not changed, and we have not provided a new VBIOS to AICs or end users for GTX 590. The original GTX 590 VBIOS that NVIDIA shipped is good for customers to use and we stand fully behind the reliability of the hardware with that VBIOS.
We did hear of one AIC partner who issued a custom VBIOS update specific to their board and we are checking in with them on the details of this.”
KitGuru has actually heard of more than one partner who are making changes to their BIOS configuration...
http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/how-serious-are-the-nvidia-gtx-590-problems/
So someone is lieing <.< either Kitguru, or the fud artical quoteing Nvidia.
You cant on 1 hand(fudzilla):
Saying everything is fine, there wont be any new bioses released.
And on the other hand (kitguru):
saying that they heard multiple partners are makeing new bioses. This is after, nvidia makes that announcement to Fudzilla, and their still going with it.
Nvidia never did fix the problem, all you got back was a motherboard with a chip that contains the same defects. I've seen the same (repaired) units fail again, eventually people just gave up and bought something else.
Now I would like to know where Keys is getting his information when he says, "something will probably register in the firmware indicated the switch has been flipped". I've never heard this, and even if it was, it will not void your warranty. This attempt to discredit AMD is honestly ridiculous and very unprofessional. Plus it has absolutely nothing to do with this thread.
He said probably and the proof will be in the torn yellow sticker regardless, which points the 6990 owners to AMD's web site.
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Try harder next time.He said probably and the proof will be in the torn yellow sticker regardless, which points the 6990 owners to AMD's web site.
The drama. There was tons of Fud surrounding posts and the gtx 590.
Nvidia releases a statement, and of course thats ignored. But random forum posters are quoted for 'proof'.
An example of FuD going Viral, was the supposed dx11 patch for crysis 2 last Sunday. It was reported as fact, at a number of news sites. It was never true. Imo, thats what happened surrounding the gtx 590 problems.