[Techspot] BCLK overclocking non-K Intel Skylake CPUs is now possible, tested here

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Madpacket

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Yeah if Microcenter offers a cheap AsRock + i3 6100 / i5 combo that will be awesome.
 

njdevilsfan87

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Intel won't be as scared of i3 overclocking as they will that 3.4 GHz LGA1151 Xeon for ~$260.

edit: what boards support that chip? It's the Xeon E3-1230 V5:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80662e31230v5

pcpartspicker is listing zero LGA1151-compatible boards . . . oh wait, you need something like the c230 chipset to use it. Blah. That's a non-starter.

btw, ASRock has a Z170 board for ~$80 on NewEgg:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z170pro4s

If they enabled bclk overclock on that thing, whew!

I don't think you need any special board to run that Xeon. The previous Xeon E3-1230 all worked on regular motherboards. It may just be that these chips were recently released to market? It seems like none of them have any reviews on Newegg. If the 1230 is compatible with a Z170 and can overclock, that was be awesome.

Intel should just leave it alone. There isn't much incentive for anyone since Sandy to upgrade. This could get people to buy some of the newer chips.
 

dark zero

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This is Nehalem all over again... thanks Intel to screw up your own sales again... now time to make a new socket :V
 

bystander36

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The OCing is being done entirely on the BLCK, it's not going to reach K chip OC's. You'll see mild OCing with this. Well...I would not have expect it to reach K series OC's on the BLCK alone.
 

DrMrLordX

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I don't think you need any special board to run that Xeon. The previous Xeon E3-1230 all worked on regular motherboards. It may just be that these chips were recently released to market? It seems like none of them have any reviews on Newegg. If the 1230 is compatible with a Z170 and can overclock, that was be awesome.

Judge for yourself:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9730/intel-launches-greenlow-c236-chipset-and-skylake-e31200-v5-xeons

Looks like Intel has only increased the product segmentation for their 1p Skylake Xeons by requiring c230/c236

http://hexus.net/tech/news/mainboar...ches-quartet-intel-c230-chipset-motherboards/

The OCing is being done entirely on the BLCK, it's not going to reach K chip OC's. You'll see mild OCing with this. Well...I would not have expect it to reach K series OC's on the BLCK alone.

With i3s hitting 4.8 GHz, I don't think anyone's going to be held back much by bclk overclocking.
 

nismotigerwvu

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Really all this would amount to would be tossing the enthusiasts a bone. The overwhelming majority of sales for Intel come from the OEM market. DIY builds are basically nothing in comparison. The average person just isn't going to build a system, let alone be willing to go through and do a BLCK OC on an i3 over a k-part build. Factor in the number of secondary "why the hell not" systems that would be built out of curiosity or people tempted into a relatively cheap upgrade they otherwise might not have gone for and you're basically at the break even point. Intel knows what they are doing, I mean just look at the gigantic pile of cash they are sitting on thanks to a few decades of really good ideas. Trust me, they are WAY more concerned about the upcoming post-silicon world of computing than they are about a handful of users clocking the snot out some non-K parts.
 

LTC8K6

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Hasn't anyone tried a Skylake Xeon in a desktop board yet?

Intel really hasn't commented on it.
 

Dufus

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Intel won't be as scared of i3 overclocking as they will that 3.4 GHz LGA1151 Xeon for ~$260.

Well there's the knock on effect. If the next gen is offering ~10% performance gain against locked chips the OC'd SKL gen are likely going to be faster.
 

dark zero

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Well there's the knock on effect. If the next gen is offering ~10% performance gain against locked chips the OC'd SKL gen are likely going to be faster.
Definately that is bad news for Intel.... Kabylake will get ruined hard.
 

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The OCing is being done entirely on the BLCK, it's not going to reach K chip OC's. You'll see mild OCing with this. Well...I would not have expect it to reach K series OC's on the BLCK alone.

I don't know if these "look at me OC non-K SkyLake" article writers are fully stability testing their OCs but there might be quite a lot of potential with BCLK considering the other buses like PCIe are locked to their appropriate clocks with SkyLake processors.

This person was at least able to run Cinebench R15 with an impressively overclocked i5-6400 at 4726MHz:

http://overclocking.guide/overclocking-non-k-intel-skylake-cpus-performance-tests/


Will be interesting to see when and how Intel tries to put the genie back in the bottle.
 

bystander36

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I don't know if these "look at me OC non-K SkyLake" article writers are fully stability testing their OCs but there might be quite a lot of potential with BCLK considering the other buses like PCIe are locked to their appropriate clocks with SkyLake processors.

This person was at least able to run Cinebench R15 with an impressively overclocked i5-6400 at 4726MHz:

http://overclocking.guide/overclocking-non-k-intel-skylake-cpus-performance-tests/


Will be interesting to see when and how Intel tries to put the genie back in the bottle.

I wasn't aware that Skylake's other buses were locked. That sounds a lot like Nehalem. Those were OC'ed by the BCLK, and the multiplier was pretty much unchanged, though using an odd number multiplier showed better stability for most.
 

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If this ends being a thing, I might as well go for i5 6500 and clock it upwards of 4GHz on an H97 for a fraction of the cost. Just like old times .
 

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So it should be possible to overclock laptop processors then. Does anyone know if this can be done in software ala throttlestop or rmclock, or does it require bios functionality?

Given that skylake U undervolts pretty well, and overclock should be ok.
 

dark zero

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So it should be possible to overclock laptop processors then. Does anyone know if this can be done in software ala throttlestop or rmclock, or does it require bios functionality?

Given that skylake U undervolts pretty well, and overclock should be ok.
Oh boy.... that would be epic to watch.... Core i5 U outperforming Core i7 ones.... Or an HQ Core i5 sodomizing a Core i7 U ones...
 

SPBHM

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So it should be possible to overclock laptop processors then. Does anyone know if this can be done in software ala throttlestop or rmclock, or does it require bios functionality?

Given that skylake U undervolts pretty well, and overclock should be ok.

problem is that you would have to disable the IGP, it's probably not viable for laptops
 

lyssword

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They did block OC on non-Z with new firmware, it's the main reason why I won't update my motherboard past what it's at now. With G3258 Intel and MS also unleashed a microcode update with Windows 10 that prevented booting (or something like that) unless you went back to stock clocks or ran with one core enabled. For whatever reason Intel hasn't done the same thing with their K chips which allows me to still use Windows 10 with my i5 OC.

I was able to get OC"d g3258 running on win 10, its just you have to install on 1 core, then delete microcode after install then you can boot
 

crashtech

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I'm sure he meant H110...

I've been looking at the BIOS download page for my Z170 board a few times a day now, heh.
 
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AtenRa

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From what i understand, ASUS BIOS release will only be for the High-End ROG series motherboards and that means expensive Z170 boards.

I dont know if ASROCK will release a BIOS for the cheaper models.

As for the Skylake Xeons, they are only compatible with Intel C232 and C236 chipsets.
 

happy medium

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From what i understand, ASUS BIOS release will only be for the High-End ROG series motherboards and that means expensive Z170 boards.

Can you give me a link that for " what you understand:? I have a Z board but not a high end expensive one . 154$
 
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Shmee

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This is very cool news. Hope it keeps up.
 

MrTeal

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So is a new socket maybe? Remember Nehalem and Sandy Bridge....

What are you talking about? Intel's released a new socket with every tock, regardless of whether the previous socket was overclockable. Intel isn't going to change sockets before Kabylake.
 

ShintaiDK

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What are you talking about? Intel's released a new socket with every tock, regardless of whether the previous socket was overclockable. Intel isn't going to change sockets before Kabylake.

His post usually dont make any sense. Its just for the drama.
 
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