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Does this man have no shame, he is campaigning for Trump, you know the guy who said Cruz's Dad may have played a role in the Kennedy Assassination, Insulted Ted's Wife and Ted himself.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cruz-to-hit-campaign-trail-for-trump/ar-AAjNhbk?li=BBnb7Kz

the two former rivals have struck a political reconciliation, due in no small part to Cruz's warm respect for Pence.

Trump also backed a internet-freedom plan championed by Cruz and named key Cruz confidante Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) as one of his possible Supreme Court choices.
 

jman19

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He's lining up a Cruz/Pence 2020 run. Still disgusting and utterly beta, low t stuff.
Fuck I've been reading speedy's stuff
 
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Bitek

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Siddling up to Pence.

And yes, he's completely fucking shameless
 

ivwshane

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Pence seems like he lies about as much as trump does. I've yet to hear a speech or interview from him where he doesn't tell at least one lie (by lie I mean a fabrication of the truth not related his opponents character, for example; calling Hillary evil would not count).
 

HTFOff

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There's nothing beta about keeping your word. When push came to shove Cruz honored his pledge.

Seems like those on the left are low key mad that Cruz is falling in line like a good soldier. A trait commonplace with the left. They're used to sanctimonious repub assholes acing like heroes.

Trump re-tweeting unflattering pics of Cruz wife (during a time when the GOP was openly trying to sabotage trump) after Cruz's billionaire super pac tried to slut shame Melania is peanuts in the grand scheme of things.
 

ivwshane

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There's nothing beta about keeping your word. When push came to shove Cruz honored his pledge.

Seems like those on the left are low key mad that Cruz is falling in line like a good soldier. A trait commonplace with the left. They're used to sanctimonious repub assholes acing like heroes.

Trump re-tweeting unflattering pics of Cruz wife (during a time when the GOP was openly trying to sabotage trump) after Cruz's billionaire super pac tried to slut shame Melania is peanuts in the grand scheme of things.

Keeping your word like paying contractors and little girls who performed at your rallies?


Party before country right?
 

HTFOff

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Keeping your word like paying contractors and little girls who performed at your rallies?


Party before country right?

Putting aside your non sequitur, know that Cruz is not the repub nominee.

I can't say i've ever concern trolled for bernie, so I can say what i'm about to say with no qualms.

Stop concern trolling.
 

lopri

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At least it is more dignified than the phone-banking job he took last time around. That picture of him on the phone in Trump's campaign office will forever follow him.

That is the thing with Trump. He turns on those who tries (inadvertently or not) to help.

Right after Christie endorsed him, and Trump went onto belittling him on stage and on camera.
The day after Ryan endorsed him Trump started attacking Judge Curiel calling him "Mexican."
Cruz endorsed him and the next week Trump fired up the 5 a.m. "check out sex tape" tweet.

I know a person like him in real life. (joy) An abusive, yet deeply insecure, egomaniac who blamed everyone else for his shortcomings and eventually took down with him those who tried to help him.
 

ivwshane

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Putting aside your non sequitur, know that Cruz is not the repub nominee.

I can't say i've ever concern trolled for bernie, so I can say what i'm about to say with no qualms.

Stop concern trolling.

I wasn't concerned trolling because I'm not concerned about Cruz, in fact this is the first time I've even brought him up in this thread. My comment was about trump because you sound like a trump supporter. Its very easy to confuse trump supporters with Bernie supporters when you have no visual cues.
 

pcgeek11

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In support of Cruz at least he does honor his pledge to support the selected candidate. Quite unlike the parties that refused: Kasich, Bush etc... I have zero respect for them.
 

lopri

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Then why do you not extend the same courtesy to Kasich, Bush, etc.? Ha.

I think we both know the answer.

In support of Cruz at least he does honor his pledge to support the selected candidate. Quite unlike the parties that refused: Kasich, Bush etc... I have zero respect for them.
 

pcgeek11

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Then why do you not extend the same courtesy to Kasich, Bush, etc.? Ha.

I think we both know the answer.

Obviously you do not know the answer.

When you take a pledge you are supposed to honor it. That is what a man with honor and morals does. A skunk on the other hand makes a pledge "thinking" that it will not come to pass and he will not have to honor it. Then it does and he is discovered to be a lying POS.

What Kasich and Bush etc... should have done is abstain when asked if they would support the Republican Candidate not knowing whom that would be. They did not. I had always thought that they were men of their word, but I was wrong. They lied outright thinking it wouldn't happen.
 

soundforbjt

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Obviously you do not know the answer.

When you take a pledge you are supposed to honor it. That is what a man with honor and morals does. A skunk on the other hand makes a pledge "thinking" that it will not come to pass and he will not have to honor it. Then it does and he is discovered to be a lying POS.

What Kasich and Bush etc... should have done is abstain when asked if they would support the Republican Candidate not knowing whom that would be. They did not. I had always thought that they were men of their word, but I was wrong. They lied outright thinking it wouldn't happen.
Does party honor come before country? Why do only the repubs have this pledge?
 

pcgeek11

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That is quite a difference from "Everyone should vote their conscience," isn't it?

It makes it different when you take a Pledge. Are you that dense?

I would not have taken a pledge that I could not honor and neither should they. It is dumb. They took the pledge because they thought not taking it would make them look bad politically. It back fired on them.
 

pcgeek11

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Does party honor come before country? Why do only the repubs have this pledge?

It is voluntary.

I am talking about personal honor and following through with the promises you make.

I think the Dems also have the same as they have all bowed to the Queen Hillary. Look at how they manipulated around Bernie. He was screwed from the start and didn't even know it, or have enough sense to see it.
 

cyclohexane

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It is voluntary.

I am talking about personal honor and following through with the promises you make.

I think the Dems also have the same as they have all bowed to the Queen Hillary. Look at how they manipulated around Bernie. He was screwed from the start and didn't even know it, or have enough sense to see it.

This makes no sense. Let's say that you make a pledge to your buddy that you have his back. Then you later find out that he's a murderer, rapist, and possibly slept with your wife. Are you going to still honor that pledge?
 
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Obviously you do not know the answer.

When you take a pledge you are supposed to honor it. That is what a man with honor and morals does. A skunk on the other hand makes a pledge "thinking" that it will not come to pass and he will not have to honor it. Then it does and he is discovered to be a lying POS.

What Kasich and Bush etc... should have done is abstain when asked if they would support the Republican Candidate not knowing whom that would be. They did not. I had always thought that they were men of their word, but I was wrong. They lied outright thinking it wouldn't happen.

I'll agree in a sense here. They used the "pledge" to try to trap Trump but he played the negotiating game much better. Trump was very smart not agreeing to it.
This doesn't make Cruz any better a pledge to support is more important that your wife, your father?
Cruz=Beta
 

disappoint

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He's lining up a Cruz/Pence 2020 run. Still disgusting and utterly beta, low t stuff.
Fuck I've been reading speedy's stuff

He will be about as electable as a serial killer. If Pence has any sense he won't have anything to do with Cruz.
 
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