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Bush & Perry aren't that much of an embarrassment. They aren't right for right now.
Cruz he's an embarrassment. Pandering, power hungry narcissist.

Umm....

He-man perry challenges trumplestiltskin to a physical challenge
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/29/politics/rick-perry-donald-trump-pull-up-contest/

The derp is so strong with the gop 'candidates'.

I know I want to choose my president by their physical strength, cause, you know, fuck intelligence and common reasoning.
 

Perknose

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Umm....

He-man perry challenges trumplestiltskin to a physical challenge
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/29/politics/rick-perry-donald-trump-pull-up-contest/

The derp is so strong with the gop 'candidates'.

I know I want to choose my president by their physical strength, cause, you know, fuck intelligence and common reasoning.

The multiple smugly self-congratulatory looks he exhibited after coming up with his "riposte" are positively Dubya-esque in their childlike, short bus delusion.
 

Perknose

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Best get a shotgun for home protection.

Exactly.

<rant alert>
People think they're Hollywood action heroes who never miss, or they think standing calmly at the range under perfect conditions and taking careful aim at a stationary target you can clearly see and have shot at many, many times before is the same as, say, a night time pressure situation where you were just woken up by a "noise" that may or may not be coming for you, as your heart rate jumps into the stratosphere and you try to get your gun safe open . . . yeah, right, cowboy.

The many manly fanbois who think this way have probably never fired a weapon in anger, and I hope for all of our sakes they never do.

The "area defense" of a shotgun is your most effective option . . . that is, if you live in paranoid quivering fear and earnestly believe the RATIONAL odds are that you nuh nuh need killing machinery in your domicile for all those negroidal socialist abortionist militant poors who inhabit the hysterical recesses of your Faux Newz poisoned psyche.
</rant alert>

BDuck, you are my newest "most fave" P&N poster. :thumbsup:
 

kage69

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Spoken like a touch guy that's never actually shot anyone!


This comment puts your input in a lot more perspective. Thank you. It saves me from wasting time to fully address your litany of assumptions and irrelevant bullshit. You'll notice my post was devoid of insults and assumptions; kinda says a lot you can't address my input without getting butthurt.

Anyway, the rest of that blather doesn't even merit a response. I couldn't care less if you think I'm tough or not; you're a nobody on the web, acting like a Larry Vickers. Newsflash: guys like you are a dime a dozen here. Making declarations about people you've never met and know nothing about isn't worth much from your kind, sorry. Do yourself a favor and direct that energy towards some education regarding home defense and CQB tactics (Thunder Ranch comes to mind), sounds like you could use it. Ask them what they think of this "rack a shell" method of deterrence - extra points if you post it here
 
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kage69

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Still laughing at the keyboard commando 'no body count, then don't post' notion. Thanks, I needed that. :biggrin:

What was that about acting like a touch (sic) guy? lol
 

bradly1101

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Someone should explain to Cruz that he's running for President of the United States, not game show host. This country has serious issues we need to address, but the GOP hopefuls are focused on out-clowning each other -- with the encouragement of our useless media, of course.

The goals of the sensationalists are forwarded every election. It's a symptom of our Kardashian/Real Housewives culture. We're not happy unless we're shaming someone else or apparently ourselves.
 

Perknose

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Still laughing at the keyboard commando 'no body count, then don't post' notion. Thanks, I needed that. :biggrin:

With all due respect, seriously, if you've had zero experience ever firing a weapon in anger, with your life on the line in real time, don't you think that, more than most, you fit the definition of a keyboard commando?

Sorry, man, as I'm allowing myself to get sucked into this unwinnable debate and probably unnecessarily personally slagging you in the process.

It's just that I truly don't understand how or why so many folks here, who, demographically speaking, probably live in fairly damn safe suburban neighborhoods, keep an elaborate arsenal and obsess over the highly unlikely prospect of some Hollywood Super Villains storming into their homes.

I spent a too long part of my adult life as a P.I., and I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of criminals don't ever venture out of their obscenely blighted neighborhoods, are not that bright or particularly skilled to begin with, have been incarcerated before and are deathly adverse to going back into the system, and, in the nearly non-existent scenario wherein they invade your suburban manse, would RUN LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER if they heard the owner rack shells in his shotgun, let alone, in another over-hyped scenario, keep coming forward if the stopping power of the penis substitute employed wasn't of sufficient caliber to physically blow them backwards.

Imho, all that cartoonish shite is true keyboard commando BS of the first rank.

Finally, I wish to address your "no body count, then don't post" rhetorical comment. I do feel that those who have faced real life danger are kind of inoculated against falling down the rabbit hole of media-hyped "danger."

Tweaker knows, small unit close combat is an unnerving, disorienting hell on earth. There is sure as hell fear in the moment, but the real fear hits home later when you reflect back on the fact that, "Hey, those guys were trying to KILL me."

This tends to cure most who have had to experience it of any desire to keep semi-autos in their peaceful suburban homes.

My advice?

Don't live in fear.

And get a better hobby.
 

Nebor

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Spoken like a touch guy that's never actually shot anyone!

If a BG hears the racking sound and still advances what's the chance he would not advance without hearing that sound? If he's determined to advance your going to need to shoot and either way you have the advantage in knowing your ground. If the shotgun wasn't loaded what good would it be to not rack -- you'd face the BG with a gun that's not ready to fire. If the gun is ready to fire you won't be racking now would you.

The thing is, I don't want to shoot someone so giving the BG an opportunity to think twice reduces the chance that you will have to pull the trigger. Shooting someone, even someone that's got a record and has provably broken into your house and brandishing a weapon, is still going to open the door to years of legal struggle that might cost you north of $100K so, once again, anything you can do to reduce the need to shoot is a wise thing to do.

The internet is full of touch talking gun owners that swear by the shoot first ask questions latter school of thought and the news is full of stories of just how badly those ideas work out...


Brian

This is 20 year old advice. In the majority of states, those using lawful deadly force are protected from any civil action. And deadly force used in one's home or car is essentially assumed to be lawful. Castle Doctrine.
 

BonzaiDuck

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This is 20 year old advice. In the majority of states, those using lawful deadly force are protected from any civil action. And deadly force used in one's home or car is essentially assumed to be lawful. Castle Doctrine.

You also might remember the case in Texas of recent years, when a home-owner with a shotgun called the police about two Latino burglars in progress of invading a house across the street with the owners absent or on vacation. He told the 911 operator that he was going to take his shotgun and pursue them. They told him emphatically not to do so. He did it anyway, chasing them down the street and -- I think -- killing them both.

If he's not currently serving time in Huntsville, then he is incarcerated at some other facility in the state.

So distinctions between the situations and choice of action are particularly important -- relevant to Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground laws.
 

Nebor

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You also might remember the case in Texas of recent years, when a home-owner with a shotgun called the police about two Latino burglars in progress of invading a house across the street with the owners absent or on vacation. He told the 911 operator that he was going to take his shotgun and pursue them. They told him emphatically not to do so. He did it anyway, chasing them down the street and -- I think -- killing them both.

If he's not currently serving time in Huntsville, then he is incarcerated at some other facility in the state.

So distinctions between the situations and choice of action are particularly important -- relevant to Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground laws.

So I guess you just like to make things up?
 

BonzaiDuck

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Wow. You got me! It was a news-item that popped up in the wake of the Trayvon shooting, and I can't remember where I got my information.

The critical fact arises with the Grand Jury finding. Somewhere, I thought I read that Horn had actually been convicted.

I'm not worried that I'm "uninformed." We grab information slower than it's available, and this was one of those things I would've considered a minor news-item.

So as much as you may think or choose to say in pursuit of that remark, I appreciate the Wiki-enlightenment you've thrown my way.

And -- no -- I don't like to make things up. I do like to be less careless about recollections that are in severe departure from actual fact.

I really stumbled on this one.
 

shira

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So let me get this straight:

Cruz purchases 3 packs of bacon.

That's, what, 30 slices altogether?

And he shoots two magazines in order to cook ONE slice.

So he's going to use 60 magazines (= 1800 .223 rounds = $600+, shipped) of ammo to cook those three packs of bacon?

Not to mention the arthritis and busted eardrums.

Not to mention that by the time he's completed "cooking breakfast" it will be time for supper.

Yeah, Ted Cruz is the genius the far right deserves.
 
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So let me get this straight:

Cruz purchases 3 packs of bacon.

That's, what, 30 slices altogether?

And he shoots two magazines in order to cook ONE slice.

So he's going to use 60 magazines (= 1800 .223 rounds = $600+, shipped) of ammo to cook those three packs of bacon?

Not to mention the arthritis and busted eardrums.

Not to mention that by the time he's completed "cooking breakfast" it will be time for supper.

Yeah, Ted Cruz is the genius the far right deserves.

We both know this is to give Cruz a tough masculine event. When I look at Cruz I see a well educated soft pampered guy. That image doesn't sell to the people he wants votes from.
 

MongGrel

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Just had a tooth pulled I'm a bit sedated atm.

I need to think before I post heavily tonight.
 
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Bitek

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This is 20 year old advice. In the majority of states, those using lawful deadly force are protected from any civil action. And deadly force used in one's home or car is essentially assumed to be lawful. Castle Doctrine.

Yea... pass on that good news to George Zimmerman..


I wouldn't gamble on this
 

Brian Stirling

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This comment puts your input in a lot more perspective. Thank you. It saves me from wasting time to fully address your litany of assumptions and irrelevant bullshit. You'll notice my post was devoid of insults and assumptions; kinda says a lot you can't address my input without getting butthurt.

Anyway, the rest of that blather doesn't even merit a response. I couldn't care less if you think I'm tough or not; you're a nobody on the web, acting like a Larry Vickers. Newsflash: guys like you are a dime a dozen here. Making declarations about people you've never met and know nothing about isn't worth much from your kind, sorry. Do yourself a favor and direct that energy towards some education regarding home defense and CQB tactics (Thunder Ranch comes to mind), sounds like you could use it. Ask them what they think of this "rack a shell" method of deterrence - extra points if you post it here


Actually, the source of much of this he-man nonsense are the very training centers you allude to. A generation of police officers, having been trained on the 'shoot first ask questions later' method have not worked out all that well now has it.

For home defense a shotgun is your best bet though they do tend to be longer and less maneuverable than a handgun.

Shooting the BG at first sight might appeal to the mindset you preach but what if it's your neighbors kid who entered your home by mistake while drunk -- this has happened and the homeowner, living by the dictum you prefer, killed the kid.

You avoided comment on the points I made so I'll directly ask you -- if someone enters your home do you shoot them without uttering a word or asking for him to identify himself?

The news is full of stories of homeowners killing people they thought were intruders but were in fact there own children!

Again, internet touch guys, whether they've bought the doctrine from defense schools or not, don't fare well in court when things go south...


Brian
 

BonzaiDuck

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What an embarrassment for Texas.

The number of presidents from that single state since 1960 should begin to seem embarrassing, no less than the 98% landslide outcome in the Vietnamese election of 1955. In the latter event, the ballots themselves were designed as a propaganda of superstition. That comes from Vincent Marchetti's controversial book, which raised a case that went all the way to the Supreme Court because of redactions of whole pages imposed on the printer by Marchetti's former employer.

The power-elite behind the candidates had once remained in the shadows, relying on either sycophants like Nixon, or like-minded ideologues like Reagan -- proxies. But the election of 1988 brought them into the spotlight -- more than you'd say for someone who'd been a Houston congressman in his earlier life.

Now we're facing the prospect of a loose-jointed three-step succession -- a slight resemblance to the Kims of North Korea.

Of course, anticipating such an outcome, it's one thing to observe what it just looks like, and another to understand what it is.
 

Jhhnn

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With all due respect, seriously, if you've had zero experience ever firing a weapon in anger, with your life on the line in real time, don't you think that, more than most, you fit the definition of a keyboard commando?

Sorry, man, as I'm allowing myself to get sucked into this unwinnable debate and probably unnecessarily personally slagging you in the process.

It's just that I truly don't understand how or why so many folks here, who, demographically speaking, probably live in fairly damn safe suburban neighborhoods, keep an elaborate arsenal and obsess over the highly unlikely prospect of some Hollywood Super Villains storming into their homes.

I spent a too long part of my adult life as a P.I., and I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of criminals don't ever venture out of their obscenely blighted neighborhoods, are not that bright or particularly skilled to begin with, have been incarcerated before and are deathly adverse to going back into the system, and, in the nearly non-existent scenario wherein they invade your suburban manse, would RUN LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER if they heard the owner rack shells in his shotgun, let alone, in another over-hyped scenario, keep coming forward if the stopping power of the penis substitute employed wasn't of sufficient caliber to physically blow them backwards.

Imho, all that cartoonish shite is true keyboard commando BS of the first rank.

Finally, I wish to address your "no body count, then don't post" rhetorical comment. I do feel that those who have faced real life danger are kind of inoculated against falling down the rabbit hole of media-hyped "danger."

Tweaker knows, small unit close combat is an unnerving, disorienting hell on earth. There is sure as hell fear in the moment, but the real fear hits home later when you reflect back on the fact that, "Hey, those guys were trying to KILL me."

This tends to cure most who have had to experience it of any desire to keep semi-autos in their peaceful suburban homes.

My advice?

Don't live in fear.

And get a better hobby.

Thank you. Statistically, living without guns is safer than living with guns despite the fear mongering & provocation of bullshit macho responses to it.

That's what Cruz is after, that bullshit macho response.
 

Fayd

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Parkerizing is a rust preventative. I've never had that area of the barrel get corroded from not lubing it up. This from firing at the enemy for over a year and two months, real or most times imagined in Vietnam.

so is blueing and browning, and any other barrel treatment i'm not aware of.

a preventative does not completely inhibit. that's the point of a light layer of lube on every piece of metal after every teardown. while you may not see scale rust, that doesn't mean corrosion isn't happening.

but hey, i look at it from a different perspective as you. to you, it's a temporary tool. to me, it's a work of art, something to be preserved.
 

trenchfoot

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so is blueing and browning, and any other barrel treatment i'm not aware of.

a preventative does not completely inhibit. that's the point of a light layer of lube on every piece of metal after every teardown. while you may not see scale rust, that doesn't mean corrosion isn't happening.

but hey, i look at it from a different perspective as you. to you, it's a temporary tool. to me, it's a work of art, something to be preserved.

I completely understand where you're coming from. I have a P08 bequeathed to me from my dad who acquired it by having a German officer hand it over to him upon surrendering out of a bunker. Machined and assembled in 1918 it was. I cherish it. I keep it in pristine condition. My son will inherit it from me, and so on down the line.

I also took good care of my 16, tempermental bitch that it was because it kept me alive. However, I really don't recall any of my buds in my unit lubing their barrels in that area. That poor bastard that ran the Company armory probably did it to the ones that got turned in or recycled, but man did he ever have a nasty hissy fit every time a guy was rotating out (including me) and turned in a rifle that wasn't ridiculously spotless. That fucker would have you stand in front of him while he took the rifle apart that went way beyond the usual field stripping limit we were authorized to do, and then he'd scream bloody murder when he found a speck of carbon out of the gas tube that we couldn't get at with the crap cleaning kits we got issued. He knew we couldn't process out without his signing off on the return so I guess that's where he got his revenge on us, that prick.

I digress. But I also have a Korth that I will never ever let go, it being such a fine piece of work.

I'd also like to mention that I'm a toolmaker by trade. I machine and fab precision parts for a living. I specialized in plastic injection molds and fabbing custom surgical instruments part time. I apprenticed under a really good gunsmith for awhile but he moved to Colorado before I could get fully independent.

That's life.

But getting back to the 16? Well, yeah, it was a tool. A really crappy unreliable one at that. The later versions were much better and I really liked those (the Stoner being my fave) but the one I got issued while in-country was a POS that had to be babied along to keep it from hang firing or outright cocking a round into the spent one that wasn't extracted at the worst moment. My being left handed just made things worse.

Hard to find the motivation to take good care of a rifle that was made by Mattel. But it's what we got stuck with so we just had to make lemonade out of lemons.

I actually ended up using an AK and an unauthorized 45 even though the AK ammo was somewhat difficult to find. Yeh, it was that bad.
 
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lopri

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Thing is, there is nothing macho about Cruz. He looks and talks like a drag queen. And his smirk... induces goose bumps.

There are times I wonder if there is a correlation between gun fantasy and one's masculinity complex.
 

trenchfoot

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Thing is, there is nothing macho about Cruz. He looks and talks like a drag queen. And his smirk... induces goose bumps.

There are times I wonder if there is a correlation between gun fantasy and one's masculinity complex.

That's easy to figure out. Have a bunch of guys with firearms bunch up and take a group portrait.

Look at how each one is posing with their weapon. Body language will tell you all need to know in reference to what you're wondering about.
 

Indus

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I have to admit I'm admiring Cruz's comedy factor.

Megyn Kelly: How will you deal with ISIS?

Cruz: I will do what our generals and president can't do.. utter the words, "radical islamic terrorism".

Is that a new mantra like the Om Nama Shiva?
 
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