My apologies, I ran off into the sticks to chase trout and deer stand locations. Left all things internet at home, naturally. So what do we have here? Oh my.
It's not often I'm addressed with posts so rife with faulty assumptions and such impressive projecting, wow!
Actually, the source of much of this he-man nonsense are the very training centers you allude to. A generation of police officers, having been trained on the 'shoot first ask questions later' method have not worked out all that well now has it.
We're talking
home defense here genius, focus please. I do like how you are now trying to liken what I said earlier to the issue of illegal and excessive force by police tho, ha! If you want to know what I think of it, ask me, or go search for a thread regarding the topics - chances are I've posted within at least once. Call me weird but I'd appreciate you actually hearing my opinions before trying to dispute them. Until then, I'll thank you to quit the false attribution and cowardly insinuations.
Anyway, the reason I mentioned that respected institution was because it disseminates the real world, combat tested knowledge you refereed to as being the legitimate article. Here's a bit of research even you should be able to handle. Google Clint Smith, then tell us all exactly what it is that indicates he is the "tactical tard" type you seem to have an ax to grind with. I'm not sure where you and others got this notion that combat experience from an instructor isn't worth much either, so odd.
You strike me as someone who isn't that familiar with firearms, their use, and security (which I'm basing on your previous posts, btw). And that's fine, to each is own, but what I take issue with (in addition to you pretending like you have the faintest idea who you are talking to) is in your pursuit of these he-man types, you are essentially doubling down on the very Hollywood crap you appear to be condemning - in this case the shotgun rack sound. One more time since I suspect you missed it:
"I'm not saying the sound of a racked shell can't unsettle people, I'm saying don't do an intruder any favors."
For someone so at ease using the term "life and death situation," you sure seem naive regarding the process that leads to that situation wrt to shotguns and tactics, to the point you smack of the very thing you claim to resent. Grats.
For home defense a shotgun is your best bet though they do tend to be longer and less maneuverable than a handgun.
I guess in your haste to start a pissing match, you failed to notice the first thing I did in this thread was agree on the merits of a shotgun for home defense. Strange.
Shooting the BG at first sight might appeal to the mindset you preach but what if it's your neighbors kid who entered your home by mistake while drunk -- this has happened and the homeowner, living by the dictum you prefer, killed the kid.
Where exactly did I advocate shooting the bad guy at first sight? You are acting like someone just advocated "recon by fire" when that just isn't the case. You have no idea what my personal take is on the issue simply because I haven't posted it. The "what if" game? Seriously? If you want to flail away with hypothetical we can do that, but frankly there's so many options for me to illustrate your lack of understanding here with my own examples all it will do is detract away from the very simple concept I posted that you take exception to. What if the BG has a gun and you just let him know where you are? What if the BG isn't alone? What if he had been fooled by someone racking an empty gun in the past, this time intent on it not happening again? What if what if what if... see where I'm going with this? Although, interesting note here: your example was in the news not too long ago, I'm sure I can find the link if I looked for it. IIRC, the neighbors kid who broke in didn't get the sound of the slide racking, he got a full fledged blast of a 12 gauge into the floor as a warning... and was subsequently killed by the home owner's second shot when the warning didn't work. So, you were saying? Sometimes shit just happens, all we can do is enact precautions so that it doesn't, or is at least much less likely to occur.
You know, like locking your fucking doors. Being a parent and not having morons for kids, whatever.
You avoided comment on the points I made so I'll directly ask you -- if someone enters your home do you shoot them without uttering a word or asking for him to identify himself?
Yeah, I do that with people whom I suspect of not knowing what they are talking about. Sorry? Good to see you're getting the hang of the 'ask first, then judge' technique, looks like progress to me.
I've lived in a variety of locales, some a lot more dangerous than the mountains of Vermont. I've had neighbors victimized by burglars and even one shot dead on the sidewalk 60ft from my house when I lived within the Baltimore beltway. I'm sure that you and others envision some perpetually scared guy just bristling with modded out weaponry, but the truth is I think the best protection is the 130lb Anatolian Shepard that lives with my family. Short of ringing my house with a enclosure full of geese I can't think of a better home security system. A stranger wouldn't be able to simply walk into my house, and the puppy brute squad just doesn't alert and corner family members.
Again, internet touch guys, whether they've bought the doctrine from defense schools or not, don't fare well in court when things go south...
Nebor already addressed this, so I guess consider this me being in complete agreement on you needing to update your understanding of laws regarding home defense. How does it make you feel to know these reprehensible defense schools of yours actually spend a lot of time discussing
current laws regarding the subject matter?
I'm starting to think the e-tough guys are less annoying than the e-legal scholars or the anti-gun zealots. And I say that as someone who can't stand all the zombie shit, the frothy prepping mentality, or idiots who open carry and get off on confrontation.