Ted Cruz cooks bacon

trenchfoot

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I may be wrong, but if I recall correctly, the parkerizing on the barrel leaches off residue when it gets really hot, and I recall seeing what looked like an opaque very thin see through "skin" actually fall off from the barrel after firing a couple of hundred rounds + on variable burst full auto. Could be the lube on the barrel, but I never lubed the exterior of the barrel between the suppressor and front sight. Happened to me a few times and from seeing that I really wouldn't eat anything off of that barrel that's been cooked the way it did.

But seeing as if it's Cruz, well, hey Cruz! eat up dude!
 

Mai72

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He sucks.

Hillery all the way! We in NJ like to eat wheat grass. Bacon will kill ya!
 

Bowfinger

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Someone should explain to Cruz that he's running for President of the United States, not game show host. This country has serious issues we need to address, but the GOP hopefuls are focused on out-clowning each other -- with the encouragement of our useless media, of course.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Ted Cruz -- political career from an oil/defense state
Bobby Jindahl -- oil state
Scott Walker -- joined at the hip with the Kochs and their industry
Jeb Bush -- some 4, maybe 5 generations of oil and armaments industry
Chris Christy -- NJ is home to Standard/Esso

Any others? I must have forgotten something.

But -- "The fix is in!"

For any of the remaining batch, there's the equal likelihood that one of these will be the next Dick Cheney.

The AR-15 and the bacon? Not presidential! It may pander to the cornpone shitasses in the Texas red counties, but it looks like Ronald MacDonald selling boogers. Inspiration from a backwoods culture that inspired characters for "No Country for Old Men:"

"Llew-ellen?! Where'd ya get the gun?!"
"From the gettin' place . . . "
"What's in the bag?"
"Two million dollars . . . "

"Ah jus' don' know what our country is comin' to . . . the drugs, the guns . . 10 years ago, if you'd a tol' me our child-urn would be walkin' down the street with green hair and bones in their noses . . . Ah wouldn'a believe'd it! . . . What does it all mean?!"

Now. You can tell me I'm "another type of bigot." I despise cowboy hats, boots that look like mother's shoes, bolo ties and shirts with little thing-a-ma-bobs sewn all over them.

I go to my Media Center library and put on Bogdanovich's "The Last Picture Show" about the fictional Anarene, Texas, so I can point my finger, mimic and laugh about all the cornpones and their sad, sad lives.

But I have a right to my little foibles. My family was in Texas 10 years after the "war of independence" and a hundred years before the carpet-bagger Bushes settled in Midland.

Three generations later, when they were opening a public school and my father and siblings began attending after their first years learning their lessons in Polish or Czech at their little Catholic community school, the little cornpone Anglos would set upon them, beating them down with "Dumb pollacks and Catholics!" My father's head injury was a ticking time-bomb. I was 9 when it went off.

We had enough of those anyway: three presidents? Four wars.

I salute the people of Austin, and the memory of Molly Ivins.
 

HomerJS

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Right wing waste...

How much spent on ammo to cook 50 cents worth of bacon?
 

BonzaiDuck

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Right wing waste...

How much spent on ammo to cook 50 cents worth of bacon?

Interesting. That very assessment came up in the wee-hours on "Morning Joe."

But -- again -- a political stunt, uplifting the spirits of the gun-obsessed.

I've been a fence-sitter on the AR-15 and other issues. There was a time when there wasn't much gun-regulation. I'd take my father's old semi-auto Mossberg out into the foothills to bag rabbits. To get the ammo, I think I needed my grandmother present at the gun store. I was maybe 14. Anytime I wanted, I could take my acetate-fleece lined gun-case, walk a couple miles with it, so I could "set up" and pop off a few rounds at a tree stump.

Dad -- when he was still alive -- set the example. We lived outside the city limits. The neighbor down the street got his water from a well. Pop would come home from work, open a can of beer, stand on the screened back-porch, and . . . pop off a few rounds at the stump across the backyard. "Pop, pop, pop, pop pop!" My mother would go into a panic.

There's something "goin' on," you know. . . . . Adam Lanza, the Clackamas Mall killer, Dorner, Roof, Holmes the Aurora killer -- alum of my own school, some instances that hint of a guilty Muslim trying to ingratiate himself with Allah, ISIS.

Madness. I think . . . there's some sort of virus going around. What explains all this?

Yet -- I was thinking a couple years ago to replace that old Mossberg with a tactical weapon.

Best get a shotgun for home protection. You just rack that sucker, and the loud sound will send folks running. With the .225 round from the AR, you could kill a neighbor in his living-room by accident, because it would pass through multiple walls.
 

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Interesting. That very assessment came up in the wee-hours on "Morning Joe."

But -- again -- a political stunt, uplifting the spirits of the gun-obsessed.

I've been a fence-sitter on the AR-15 and other issues. There was a time when there wasn't much gun-regulation. I'd take my father's old semi-auto Mossberg out into the foothills to bag rabbits. To get the ammo, I think I needed my grandmother present at the gun store. I was maybe 14. Anytime I wanted, I could take my acetate-fleece lined gun-case, walk a couple miles with it, so I could "set up" and pop off a few rounds at a tree stump.

Dad -- when he was still alive -- set the example. We lived outside the city limits. The neighbor down the street got his water from a well. Pop would come home from work, open a can of beer, stand on the screened back-porch, and . . . pop off a few rounds at the stump across the backyard. "Pop, pop, pop, pop pop!" My mother would go into a panic.

There's something "goin' on," you know. . . . . Adam Lanza, the Clackamas Mall killer, Dorner, Roof, Holmes the Aurora killer -- alum of my own school, some instances that hint of a guilty Muslim trying to ingratiate himself with Allah, ISIS.

Madness. I think . . . there's some sort of virus going around. What explains all this?

Yet -- I was thinking a couple years ago to replace that old Mossberg with a tactical weapon.

Best get a shotgun for home protection. You just rack that sucker, and the loud sound will send folks running. With the .225 round from the AR, you could kill a neighbor in his living-room by accident, because it would pass through multiple walls.


Actually, the 223 rounds most often used tend to break up pretty quickly so while they will penetrate a wall they don't often go through more than one or two walls given the tendency to break up. In this way the AR-15 is more like a shotgun than most rifles.

The ammo typically used for home defense, be it rifle or handgun, tend to expand and/or break up after encountering a wall etc. A bullet from an AR-15 is less likely to go through several walls than many handgun rounds.


Brian
 

Bitek

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Ok, Graham's cell phone bit was amusing, but this stunt was just gross.

What was the message of this?

-I luv me some guns
-Luv bacon too (ain't no muslim like you know who..)
-Canadian? Ha! I'm as dumb as any Texan comes!

Nasty
 

BonzaiDuck

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Actually, the 223 rounds most often used tend to break up pretty quickly so while they will penetrate a wall they don't often go through more than one or two walls given the tendency to break up. In this way the AR-15 is more like a shotgun than most rifles.

The ammo typically used for home defense, be it rifle or handgun, tend to expand and/or break up after encountering a wall etc. A bullet from an AR-15 is less likely to go through several walls than many handgun rounds.


Brian

Oh. I could stand corrected. .223. But I had this from a retired police captain. And modern homes have some thin walls.

But like I said -- better with a Glock or a shotgun. Maybe, with the shotgun, you only need to rack it and the story's over.
 

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Oh. I could stand corrected. .223. But I had this from a retired police captain. And modern homes have some thin walls.

But like I said -- better with a Glock or a shotgun. Maybe, with the shotgun, you only need to rack it and the story's over.

Most any handgun including most any Glock is going to go through more walls than a typical 223 round. There are exceptions as some of the heavier 223 rounds, and certainly an armor piercing round, might make it through more walls. In my case I'd use a 55gn varminter round like Hornaday V-MAX-- it would not go through very much but it will explode inside doing what it needs to do.

Now a pump shotgun, as you indicate, can intimidate just by racking it. That sound is so distinctive and I'd think most BG's would exit your home with there pants full of shit.

For me the shotgun is probably the best home defense weapon owing to the fact you shouldn't have to fire it. If you do need to shoot a shotgun will do the job with less chance of going into your neighbors house. A short/mid length Ar-15 using a 55gn varmint round will also do the job and will also not pose much risk to the folks next door, but it's not as maneuverable as a handgun.

If someone attacks me in my home he's likely to be dropped by a 124gn XTP round from my 357sig -- this high velocity defense round will drop the perp right quick and limit the chance of reaching the people next door.


Brian
 

kage69

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Best get a shotgun for home protection.


Yes.



You just rack that sucker, and the loud sound will send folks running.

No.

This bit of advice needs to go away, for the sake of people who don't understand signaling your whereabouts in a home invasion is counterproductive. The only sound a badguy should hear from a shotgun is the discharge in his direction. I'm not saying the sound of racked shell can't unsettle people, I'm saying don't do an intruder any favors.
 

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I may be wrong, but if I recall correctly, the parkerizing on the barrel leaches off residue when it gets really hot, and I recall seeing what looked like an opaque very thin see through "skin" actually fall off from the barrel after firing a couple of hundred rounds + on variable burst full auto. Could be the lube on the barrel, but I never lubed the exterior of the barrel between the suppressor and front sight. Happened to me a few times and from seeing that I really wouldn't eat anything off of that barrel that's been cooked the way it did.

But seeing as if it's Cruz, well, hey Cruz! eat up dude!

do you like rust? cause that's how you get rust.

all exposed metal. and all not-exposed metal on every teardown.
 
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As a Texan, I apologize for our politicians. Bush, Perry, Cruz were batting a 1000.

Bush & Perry aren't that much of an embarrassment. They aren't right for right now.
Cruz he's an embarrassment. Pandering, power hungry narcissist.
 

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Yes.





No.

This bit of advice needs to go away, for the sake of people who don't understand signaling your whereabouts in a home invasion is counterproductive. The only sound a badguy should hear from a shotgun is the discharge in his direction. I'm not saying the sound of racked shell can't unsettle people, I'm saying don't do an intruder any favors.


Spoken like a touch guy that's never actually shot anyone!

If a BG hears the racking sound and still advances what's the chance he would not advance without hearing that sound? If he's determined to advance your going to need to shoot and either way you have the advantage in knowing your ground. If the shotgun wasn't loaded what good would it be to not rack -- you'd face the BG with a gun that's not ready to fire. If the gun is ready to fire you won't be racking now would you.

The thing is, I don't want to shoot someone so giving the BG an opportunity to think twice reduces the chance that you will have to pull the trigger. Shooting someone, even someone that's got a record and has provably broken into your house and brandishing a weapon, is still going to open the door to years of legal struggle that might cost you north of $100K so, once again, anything you can do to reduce the need to shoot is a wise thing to do.

The internet is full of touch talking gun owners that swear by the shoot first ask questions latter school of thought and the news is full of stories of just how badly those ideas work out...


Brian
 

trenchfoot

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do you like rust? cause that's how you get rust.

all exposed metal. and all not-exposed metal on every teardown.

Parkerizing is a rust preventative. I've never had that area of the barrel get corroded from not lubing it up. This from firing at the enemy for over a year and two months, real or most times imagined in Vietnam.

From having those rifles jamming all the time, it was bad enough. We also found that if you lube that part of the barrel and you actually got the luxury of having the time to sight downrange, well, after the barrel starts heating up from firing, the smoke from the lube cooking off obscures sighting, stings the eyes and smells real bad. This I didn't personally experience but heard it often enough. But most of the time I wasn't really sight aiming at anything anyway when things got real, so maybe the point I made was somewhat moot, as it was mostly making yourself really really small and point and shoot if the cover was good enough. Otherwise it was just shooting blind over cover and hoped you hit something worthwhile. Still, I never saw a barrel that corroded in that spot. But that was then, maybe things have changed since. I haven't fired an A2 or M4 since retiring. But seeing really screwed up barrel bores back then was an everyday kind of thing for sure.
 
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Jhhnn

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Bush & Perry aren't that much of an embarrassment. They aren't right for right now.
Cruz he's an embarrassment. Pandering, power hungry narcissist.

Well, there's Louie Gohmert, Joe Barton, Sheila Jackson Lee, & a few others, I'm sure.

And Phil Gramm, architect of the financial deregulation that ultimately crashed the economy.
 
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