Ted Kennedy To Endorse Barack Obama

[SViscusi]

Originally posted by: loki8481
by all accounts, north east dems are annoyed with bill clinton.

I'm sure this annoyance will be forgotten when they need to beg him to help fund raising for them.

Well they have a choice, either win back over Bill Clinton and his fund raising, or black people and their votes.

Of course a President Obama could help them in both categories.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975

LOL, do you also find it amazing that the usual suspects that would normally denounce Sen. Kennedy as a drunk, a "liberal", and possibly a murderer are now prasing his actions??

Similar to how those who typically rush to defend the Kennedy legacy are now upset that he may endorse Obama, and cause the Clinton express to derail on a bridge in CT.

Who are these people? I see no example of that in this thread unless you want to construe a "har har he's a drunk" post as doing that...quite a stretch.

 

[M0RPH]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975

LOL, do you also find it amazing that the usual suspects that would normally denounce Sen. Kennedy as a drunk, a "liberal", and possibly a murderer are now prasing his actions??

Similar to how those who typically rush to defend the Kennedy legacy are now upset that he may endorse Obama, and cause the Clinton express to derail on a bridge in CT.

Who are these people? I see no example of that in this thread unless you want to construe a "har har he's a drunk" post as doing that...quite a stretch.

Had he endorsed Hillary, I guarantee you that the Clinton-hating crew here would have pounced all over him.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Story here.

I must say, this is almost too much. First Caroline, Now Teddy. Looks like The Hope Train is steamrolling now!

Makes you wonder what kind of politicking is going on behind the scenes.

Seems as if the Kennedy campo has issues with the Clinton Camp!!

Gotta Love those democrats!!

 

[Moonbeam]

Could it be we will have a President who loves his country and is mentally sound, idealistic, and healthy, who will govern with the best ideas in the name of the people instead of politics?

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Depending on who finally gets the nomination, there could be a lot of splits within the Democratic party in the future. I have been amazed at which way certain endorsements have broken.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Could it be we will have a President who loves his country and is mentally sound, idealistic, and healthy, who will govern with the best ideas in the name of the people instead of politics?

sure.

or we'll have someone who's sleazy, power-hungry, and great at putting on a good face

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Could it be we will have a President who loves his country and is mentally sound, idealistic, and healthy, who will govern with the best ideas in the name of the people instead of politics?

sure.

or we'll have someone who's sleazy, power-hungry, and great at putting on a good face

You're in the race?

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Could it be we will have a President who loves his country and is mentally sound, idealistic, and healthy, who will govern with the best ideas in the name of the people instead of politics?

sure.

or we'll have someone who's sleazy, power-hungry, and great at putting on a good face

You're in the race?

hah. I'm terrible at putting on a good face :laugh:

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Could it be we will have a President who loves his country and is mentally sound, idealistic, and healthy, who will govern with the best ideas in the name of the people instead of politics?

sure.

or we'll have someone who's sleazy, power-hungry, and great at putting on a good face

You're in the race?

hah. I'm terrible at putting on a good face :laugh:

Well here's a news flash for you, friend. Obama may be as terrible as you are at that and the face you see on him is real.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: M0RPH

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975

LOL, do you also find it amazing that the usual suspects that would normally denounce Sen. Kennedy as a drunk, a "liberal", and possibly a murderer are now prasing his actions??

Similar to how those who typically rush to defend the Kennedy legacy are now upset that he may endorse Obama, and cause the Clinton express to derail on a bridge in CT.

Who are these people? I see no example of that in this thread unless you want to construe a "har har he's a drunk" post as doing that...quite a stretch.

Had he endorsed Hillary, I guarantee you that the Clinton-hating crew here would have pounced all over him.

its amazing that Obama can bring people like pabster and Ted Kennedy together.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: loki8481
by all accounts, north east dems are annoyed with bill clinton.

I'm sure this annoyance will be forgotten when they need to beg him to help fund raising for them.

I think Bill's behavior is going to lessen his fund raising ability in the future. He's really alienated a lot of the base.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: palehorse74
I'm not a big fan of Ted, but I'm glad to see some major Democrats put their support behind Obama.

GO OBAMA!

*ROLL TIDE!*

Oh... wait.

lol.. since I went to UTenn, I prefer: "BUCK FAMA!!!!"

anyways...

 

[Pabster]

It gets better.

Bill Clinton apparently made a personal call and an attempt to derail Ted's endorsement of Obama.

Story on that here.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Pabster
It gets better.

Bill Clinton apparently made a personal call and an attempt to derail Ted's endorsement of Obama.

Story on that here.

Oh to have been on the line for that call....

 

[Aegeon]

Originally posted by: Dari
All these New England liberals' endorsements are one thing. Obama needs endorsements from Middle America and conservative America. I don't think he has any.

Its apparent that you have not been playing that careful attention, because Obama clearly has been getting endorsements from those sort of Democrats as well.

Endorsements Obama has received include:

Senator Ben Nelson of Nebraska
http://www.omaha.com/index.php...ge=2835&u_sid=10230251

Senator Tim Johnson of South Dakota
http://www.badlandsblue.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=481

and Congressman Rick Boucher, from the rural Southwestern part of Virginia among many others.
http://www.inrich.com/cva/ric/...D-2008-01-22-0095.html

I suppose if you're looking for an Obama endorsement from someone like Rush Limbaugh you're not going to get it, but that's just about as reasonable as expecting the KKK to announce that they support Obama for President.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Aegeon
I suppose if you're looking for an Obama endorsement from someone like Rush Limbaugh you're not going to get it, but that's just about as reasonable as expecting the KKK to announce that they support Obama for President.

:thumbsup: :laugh: :thumbsup:

 

[Rockinacoustic]

Originally posted by: Dari
All these New England liberals' endorsements are one thing. Obama needs endorsements from Middle America and conservative America. I don't think he has any.

This is my thinking too. While he's gotten his East Coast support in Kerry and Kennedy I'd be interested to see/know if anyone in the southwest and west coast has gotten behind him as well. Those are the money states.

 

[Pabster]

From Drudge ....

Kennedy For Obama: Intends to campaign aggressively with Western trip this week, followed by appearances in Northeast... Kennedy upset over attempts by Clinton campaign to highlight Obama's race and distortions of statements, record... made views known in call with former president.... Developing...

 

[Aegeon]

Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic
This is my thinking too. While he's gotten his East Coast support in Kerry and Kennedy I'd be interested to see/know if anyone in the southwest and west coast has gotten behind him as well. Those are the money states.

You should have read my post in response before you commented.

The areas you're talking about are NOT Middle America or what would necessarily typically be considered classic conservative America.

If you do the research, there a plenty of politicians in California for instance who have endorsed Obama, you just have to look around and do some research. Here are a couple examples.
http://www.topix.com/us-house/...alifornia-endorsements
http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/st...l_elections&id=5887611

Generally there are only so many politicians explicitly part of the "Southwest" in the first place, (if you categorize California separately) and Bill Richardson has chosen to stay neutral, but you can find a few endorsement examples. A notable example of an endorsement in that area would be Governor Janet Napolitano of Arizona.
http://www.portfolio.com/views...obamas-big-endorsement

Honestly it appears a few people on this forum don't bother to pay attention to endorsement news and then make wild assumptions.

 

[randym431]

Endorsements don?t really matter, its voters.
Neither Kennedy, or Opra, or Kerry will matter except to Kennedy, Opra and Kerry.

I really don?t think Obama is electable.
He got a huge black vote in SC, but notice it was NOT Obama but
Edwards taking the white male vote.

This is very bad for Obama. I smell a republican in November of 2008.

 

[Pabster]

No, randy, it is bad news for Hillary. Bill actually drove white male votes to Edwards, siphoning them from her. She must have those votes to win.

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: randym431
Endorsements don?t really matter, its voters.
Neither Kennedy, or Opra, or Kerry will matter except to Kennedy, Opra and Kerry.

I really don?t think Obama is electable.
He got a huge black vote in SC, but notice it was NOT Obama but
Edwards taking the white male vote.

This is very bad for Obama. I smell a republican in November of 2008.

Kennedy and Kerry are organized throughout the country. Combined with Leahy, basically all top-level Democrats are behind Obama. The only one missing is former President Clinton, for obvious reasons. Hillary had a lot of endorsements from mid-level Democrats early in her campaign, but now that Obama has taken over as the establishment candidate he will begin picking up more and more superdelegates.

As for the racial divide, this is why the party is getting pissed at the Clintons. They saw Obama pull in the white vote in Iowa, and only after race was injected into the debate (and let's not pretend it wasn't, with Bill's Jessie Jackson comments among others), it started to split that way. Obama still got 24% of the white vote so as long as these tensions ease up a bit he will take it back again, especially as white Democrats lose their alternatives.

 

[Aegeon]

Originally posted by: randym431
Endorsements don?t really matter, its voters.
Neither Kennedy, or Opra, or Kerry will matter except to Kennedy, Opra and Kerry.

I really don?t think Obama is electable.
He got a huge black vote in SC, but notice it was NOT Obama but
Edwards taking the white male vote.

You're frankly out of your mind in this case. Realistically speaking Oprah already did help Obama in Iowa and South Carolina to some degree.

Having both Caroline and Ted Kennedy endorse Obama, with Carolina Kennedy explicitly talking about how Obama reminds her of her father is a really big deal for Obama. Particularly among Democrats, JFK is an incredibly well regarded political figure today, and the idea Obama is the next JFK can be extremely effective in getting people to decide to support him for the nomination.

Ted Kennedy is also a veteran political figure well regarded by liberal Democrats in particular, especially in Massachusetts which is a February 5th state. Basically his endorsement works in that it reinforces the Obama is the next JFK idea and given the Ted Kennedy is an influential political figure in his own right.

The reality is South Carolina and many Southern states are not realistically in play in the general election no matter who is running, and this would only change in a crushing landslide situation. In spite of media hype, white voters in other parts of the country won't have the same problem. Note that Obama certainly did get plenty of the White male vote in South Carolina when you get down to it, its not like just black people voted for him, and most voters when questioned in a poll agreed they would be perfectly willing to vote for him in the general election. On the other hand, Ohio's 12.5% black population will likely be motivated to come out in exceptionally large numbers for the general election if they have a change to make history and vote in the first Black President.

Its also true that Obama polls extremely well in a swing state such as Colorado for instance, where its obviously not primarily the black vote. (He was ahead of Hillary by 2% in a recent poll, and this was prior to the South Carolina vote outcome being known and the recent Kennedy endorsements, and I suspect part of Hillary's numbers were name recognition rather than really strong support for her.)

 

[Rockinacoustic]

Originally posted by: Aegeon

Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic
This is my thinking too. While he's gotten his East Coast support in Kerry and Kennedy I'd be interested to see/know if anyone in the southwest and west coast has gotten behind him as well. Those are the money states.

You should have read my post in response before you commented.

The areas you're talking about are NOT Middle America or what would necessarily typically be considered classic conservative America.

If you do the research, there a plenty of politicians in California for instance who have endorsed Obama, you just have to look around and do some research. Here are a couple examples.
http://www.topix.com/us-house/...alifornia-endorsements
http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/st...l_elections&id=5887611

Generally there are only so many politicians explicitly part of the "Southwest" in the first place, (if you categorize California separately) and Bill Richardson has chosen to stay neutral, but you can find a few endorsement examples. A notable example of an endorsement in that area would be Governor Janet Napolitano of Arizona.
http://www.portfolio.com/views...obamas-big-endorsement

Honestly it appears a few people on this forum don't bother to pay attention to endorsement news and then make wild assumptions.

I never said middle America, and your previous post was on middle America states (aside from Virgina).

But thanks for the links. Like I said, I'm interested to know who has endorsed him from the southwest/west coast.