Teen Sues, Was Kicked Out of Prom for Wearing Homemade Confederate Flag Dress

[MidasKnight]

Originally posted by: jumpr
She should've been able to wear whatever she wanted. The whole idea of the First Amendment is that her speech might not be popular, but she's got a right to embarass herself and her date any way she wants.

Agreed.

:beer:

 

[SithSolo1]

I love how threads always go from the main topic to bashing one group of people or another.

I have lived in the south all my life (21 years, mostly GA) and while I admit we're totally excepting of everyone, we're also not the racist elitist you make us out to be either.

As for the flag dress; I see why the school did what they did but I fear that the school will lose the case. If she had shown up at my HS with that on:
A) School probably wouldn't have done anything as our state flag at the time was very similar.
B) Nobody at the prom would have given two sh*ts one way or the other. Not because of the racial distribution, 80% of my HS was African American, but because nobody cares around here one way or the other.

 

[0roo0roo]

look, i'm sure a great many germans found great pride in how the nazi's brought them out from under french oppression, unified their people and created great nationalism, and of course they fought for their freedom! wonderous things! and sh*tting on the french! always justified! sure you quibble over some of the nazi parties stances, but over all it was trying to do good for the german people, their intentions were pure. why not fly the nazi flag and show pride in your heritage! thats all that matters after all!

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: MidasKnight

Originally posted by: jumpr
She should've been able to wear whatever she wanted. The whole idea of the First Amendment is that her speech might not be popular, but she's got a right to embarass herself and her date any way she wants.

Agreed.

:beer:

Another dimwit. Students wearing controversial clothing IS NOT PROTECTED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT. Schools have a well-established right to limit clothing choices. Students are not allowed to wear nazi headbands, T-shirts with "Kill the Gays" on the front, gang colors or anything else that the school deems inappropriate. She has no, repeat NO First Amendment rights pertaining to clothing when attending school functions. She knew in advance the dress was forbidden and wore it anyway. Her lawsuit should be against her parents for raising her to be so stupid.

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: MidasKnight

Originally posted by: jumpr
She should've been able to wear whatever she wanted. The whole idea of the First Amendment is that her speech might not be popular, but she's got a right to embarass herself and her date any way she wants.

Agreed.

:beer:

Another dimwit. Students wearing controversial clothing IS NOT PROTECTED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT. Schools have a well-established right to limit clothing choices. Students are not allowed to wear nazi headbands, T-shirts with "Kill the Gays" on the front, gang colors or anything else that the school deems inappropriate. She has no, repeat NO First Amendment rights pertaining to clothing when attending school functions. She knew in advance the dress was forbidden and wore it anyway. Her lawsuit should be against her parents for raising her to be so stupid.

Wait, kids aren't allowed to wear gang colors??????? WE SHOULD SUE!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Bateluer]

Just a little FYI, you are not supposed to wear the US Flag as a clothing item either, even though people do it all the time.

I don't think she should have worn it, she was informed beforehand not to wear the dress. And the exscuse, I didn't have another one doesn't hold water. You can get a dress that will do just fine from any clothing store. Heck, I could have bought her a suitable dress from Walmart.

 

[ohtwell]

If they asked her not to wear the dress prior to the prom, she shouldn't have worn it. The situation would have been different if the school hadn't already requested she not wear the dress. Even she said she could see how it would be offensive to others. Why would you wear something knowing that you could offend someone? The girl has no class and I'm glad they didn't let her go in wearing the dress.


: ) Amanda

 

[xirtam]

Fact 1: School told her not to wear it.
Fact 2: The prom was a school function, giving the school jurisdiction in the matter.

Now, how'd the school know about the dress beforehand? You think schools routinely inspect what every student's planning to wear? Naw, she had to be wearing it at some point in time prior, they evaluated it and said it was inappropriate, case closed. She should have just shown up with it on without their prior knowledge, but she's screwed if she disobeys a direct school order outright like that.

Now she's just being retarded and trying to make 50 grand because she's tired of turning tricks for tuition.

 

[FleshLight]

What if someone wears a Japanese or US flag to school? Would they have to ban it heaven forbid some Hawaiian/Native-American gets offended?

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: FleshLight
What if someone wears a Japanese or US flag to school? Would they have to ban it heaven forbid some Hawaiian/Native-American gets offended?

Neither nation you mentioned was founded on racism and slavery.

 

[backinsac]

Being that she is now in college, this must have happened last Spring. She certainly took her time fileing the lawsuit. I wonder why she took so long. If it really bothered here, I would thing she would have filed suit against the school right away (or right after she graduated). Also, looking at the picture in the story, it sure is a sparkly flag/dress.

 

[BannedTroll]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Confederate flag spells racism to me. I just don't understand this bull sh!t of "heritage" crap, heritage is the american flag you terds. That flag only means they wanted to ditch this country and you know what, if your waving the confederate flag then you should leave because they're the type of people who make this country look bad (inbred rednecks). It just so annoying to see the flag waved by these people, if anybody has noticed is that ku klux klan members wave that friggen flag, hum seems like it supports racism to me. They can deny it all they want but their just living in a fantasy world, grow up and ditch that damn flag you stupid rednecks...

You are a clueless idiot.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: preslove


By the way, the main "mistreatment of the South following the war" was giving african americans basic human rights.

This alone proves you have no freakin clue. Just about every city and town in the South was looted and burned to the ground. The South was severely mistreated after the war.

And to believe the North was any great leader in civil rights during the era is to believe a myth. The North was no better than the post civil war Jim Crow South and continued to be for decades after the war.

Today, I can testify to the blatant racism in the midwest and the most "white flight" I have ever seen.

As for the rest of your tripe, it's just that. Ignorant, bigoted nonsense.

 

[BannedTroll]

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: FleshLight
What if someone wears a Japanese or US flag to school? Would they have to ban it heaven forbid some Hawaiian/Native-American gets offended?

Neither nation you mentioned was founded on racism and slavery.

Are you sure about that?

 

[Gulzakar]

it's just a dress...though odd

there weren't and confederates until you hit south of bowling green. Kentucky isn't really "the south"... but it is a fille dwith a bunch of hillbillys...of course being from there I also call it home

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: preslove


By the way, the main "mistreatment of the South following the war" was giving african americans basic human rights.

This alone proves you have no freakin clue. Just about every city and town in the South was looted and burned to the ground. The South was severely mistreated after the war.

And to believe the North was any great leader in civil rights during the era is to believe a myth. The North was no better than the post civil war Jim Crow South and continued to be for decades after the war.

Today, I can testify to the blatant racism in the midwest and the most "white flight" I have ever seen.

As for the rest of your tripe, it's just that. Ignorant, bigoted nonsense.

First off, all the destruction started during the war (which the south started), not afterwards. Second off, the Republican reconstruction governments weren't as bad as southern apologists claim. Nor were they any more corrupt than the Democratic governments that followed them (in fact they often continued the saim policies).


Finally, you have no idea what happened in the backwoods of every southern state in the post-war South. EVER HEARD OF A FVCKING LYNCHING YOU MORON????????

Black activists organized to vote in Republican politicians during reconstruction. You know how whites stopped this? The ballot box?? No, by whipping, shooting, hanging, dismembering, castrating, and decapitating the black activists. The blacks stopped voting after that, which is why the reconstruction republican state governments fell. Several thousand african americans WERE MURDERED BY PEOPLE WAIVING THE CONFEDERATE FLAG! This did not happen in the fvcking north, you idiot.

Guess what happened during jim crow if a black man was accused of looking at/fvcking/touching a white woman? THEY LYNCHED HIM! Which means, murdered.

You may choose to ignore the blood on southern soil, but I would rather be honest.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: preslove


By the way, the main "mistreatment of the South following the war" was giving african americans basic human rights.

This alone proves you have no freakin clue. Just about every city and town in the South was looted and burned to the ground. The South was severely mistreated after the war.

And to believe the North was any great leader in civil rights during the era is to believe a myth. The North was no better than the post civil war Jim Crow South and continued to be for decades after the war.

Today, I can testify to the blatant racism in the midwest and the most "white flight" I have ever seen.

As for the rest of your tripe, it's just that. Ignorant, bigoted nonsense.

First off, all the destruction started during the war (which the south started), not afterwards. Second off, the Republican reconstruction governments weren't as bad as southern apologists claim. Nor were they any more corrupt than the Democratic governments that followed them (in fact they often continued the saim policies).


Finally, you have no idea what happened in the backwoods of every southern state in the post-war South. EVER HEARD OF A FVCKING LYNCHING YOU MORON????????

Black activists organized to vote in Republican politicians during reconstruction. You know how whites stopped this? The ballot box?? No, by whipping, shooting, hanging, dismembering, castrating, and decapitating the black activists. The blacks stopped voting after that, which is why the reconstruction republican state governments fell. Several thousand african americans WERE MURDERED BY PEOPLE WAIVING THE CONFEDERATE FLAG! This did not happen in the fvcking north, you idiot.

Guess what happened during jim crow if a black man was accused of looking at/fvcking/touching a white woman? THEY LYNCHED HIM! Which means, murdered.

You may choose to ignore the blood on southern soil, but I would rather be honest.

*clap* *clap*

 

[paulney]

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: FleshLight
What if someone wears a Japanese or US flag to school? Would they have to ban it heaven forbid some Hawaiian/Native-American gets offended?

Neither nation you mentioned was founded on racism and slavery.

You need to better study japanese history.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: preslove


By the way, the main "mistreatment of the South following the war" was giving african americans basic human rights.

This alone proves you have no freakin clue. Just about every city and town in the South was looted and burned to the ground. The South was severely mistreated after the war.

And to believe the North was any great leader in civil rights during the era is to believe a myth. The North was no better than the post civil war Jim Crow South and continued to be for decades after the war.

Today, I can testify to the blatant racism in the midwest and the most "white flight" I have ever seen.

As for the rest of your tripe, it's just that. Ignorant, bigoted nonsense.

First off, all the destruction started during the war (which the south started), not afterwards. Second off, the Republican reconstruction governments weren't as bad as southern apologists claim. Nor were they any more corrupt than the Democratic governments that followed them (in fact they often continued the saim policies).


Finally, you have no idea what happened in the backwoods of every southern state in the post-war South. EVER HEARD OF A FVCKING LYNCHING YOU MORON????????

Black activists organized to vote in Republican politicians during reconstruction. You know how whites stopped this? The ballot box?? No, by whipping, shooting, hanging, dismembering, castrating, and decapitating the black activists. The blacks stopped voting after that, which is why the reconstruction republican state governments fell. Several thousand african americans WERE MURDERED BY PEOPLE WAIVING THE CONFEDERATE FLAG! This did not happen in the fvcking north, you idiot.

Guess what happened during jim crow if a black man was accused of looking at/fvcking/touching a white woman? THEY LYNCHED HIM! Which means, murdered.

You may choose to ignore the blood on southern soil, but I would rather be honest.

I'm the moron? Guess what state had the strongest KKK presence in history?

Yes, bad things happened to blacks in the south. That does not tie the flag to the crimes.

Look, if people want to stop the flag waving by the KKKers they need to do exatly what the KKKers did. Start waving the flag for their own cause.

I guarantee the day blacks adopt the flag as their symbol, the KKKers will throw the same kind of fit you are and stop waving it themselves. By acting upset over the flag, you only give the haters MORE power.

Meanwhile, that does not change the fact that the flag is a symbol of Southern culture to many non-racist southerners.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: paulney

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: FleshLight
What if someone wears a Japanese or US flag to school? Would they have to ban it heaven forbid some Hawaiian/Native-American gets offended?

Neither nation you mentioned was founded on racism and slavery.

You need to better study japanese history.

You have no idea. The japanese didn't feel they were racially superior. They just hated the chinese because of their large land mass.

 

[BannedTroll]

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: preslove


By the way, the main "mistreatment of the South following the war" was giving african americans basic human rights.

This alone proves you have no freakin clue. Just about every city and town in the South was looted and burned to the ground. The South was severely mistreated after the war.

And to believe the North was any great leader in civil rights during the era is to believe a myth. The North was no better than the post civil war Jim Crow South and continued to be for decades after the war.

Today, I can testify to the blatant racism in the midwest and the most "white flight" I have ever seen.

As for the rest of your tripe, it's just that. Ignorant, bigoted nonsense.

First off, all the destruction started during the war (which the south started), not afterwards. Second off, the Republican reconstruction governments weren't as bad as southern apologists claim. Nor were they any more corrupt than the Democratic governments that followed them (in fact they often continued the saim policies).


Finally, you have no idea what happened in the backwoods of every southern state in the post-war South. EVER HEARD OF A FVCKING LYNCHING YOU MORON????????

Black activists organized to vote in Republican politicians during reconstruction. You know how whites stopped this? The ballot box?? No, by whipping, shooting, hanging, dismembering, castrating, and decapitating the black activists. The blacks stopped voting after that, which is why the reconstruction republican state governments fell. Several thousand african americans WERE MURDERED BY PEOPLE WAIVING THE CONFEDERATE FLAG! This did not happen in the fvcking north, you idiot.

Guess what happened during jim crow if a black man was accused of looking at/fvcking/touching a white woman? THEY LYNCHED HIM! Which means, murdered.

You may choose to ignore the blood on southern soil, but I would rather be honest.

1. The south started it?I'll assume you just mean the first shot? Did they not have the right to secede? Should they have continued to allow the insane tarrifs?

2. It wasn't hard for the Republicans to gain control:
"Section 3.
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
(even though this didn't last long)

Also the Governors were appointed by the President.

 

[paulney]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: paulney

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: FleshLight
What if someone wears a Japanese or US flag to school? Would they have to ban it heaven forbid some Hawaiian/Native-American gets offended?

Neither nation you mentioned was founded on racism and slavery.

You need to better study japanese history.

You have no idea. The japanese didn't feel they were racially superior. They just hated the chinese because of their large land mass.

Proof? There's plenty of proof to the opposite.

 

[Jejunum]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Confederate flag spells racism to me. I just don't understand this bull sh!t of "heritage" crap, heritage is the american flag you terds. That flag only means they wanted to ditch this country and you know what, if your waving the confederate flag then you should leave because they're the type of people who make this country look bad (inbred rednecks). It just so annoying to see the flag waved by these people, if anybody has noticed is that ku klux klan members wave that friggen flag, hum seems like it supports racism to me. They can deny it all they want but their just living in a fantasy world, grow up and ditch that damn flag you stupid rednecks...

i agree. it doesnt matter what the flag was used for back then - it now represents racism and oppression.

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: preslove


By the way, the main "mistreatment of the South following the war" was giving african americans basic human rights.

This alone proves you have no freakin clue. Just about every city and town in the South was looted and burned to the ground. The South was severely mistreated after the war.

And to believe the North was any great leader in civil rights during the era is to believe a myth. The North was no better than the post civil war Jim Crow South and continued to be for decades after the war.

Today, I can testify to the blatant racism in the midwest and the most "white flight" I have ever seen.

As for the rest of your tripe, it's just that. Ignorant, bigoted nonsense.

First off, all the destruction started during the war (which the south started), not afterwards. Second off, the Republican reconstruction governments weren't as bad as southern apologists claim. Nor were they any more corrupt than the Democratic governments that followed them (in fact they often continued the saim policies).


Finally, you have no idea what happened in the backwoods of every southern state in the post-war South. EVER HEARD OF A FVCKING LYNCHING YOU MORON????????

Black activists organized to vote in Republican politicians during reconstruction. You know how whites stopped this? The ballot box?? No, by whipping, shooting, hanging, dismembering, castrating, and decapitating the black activists. The blacks stopped voting after that, which is why the reconstruction republican state governments fell. Several thousand african americans WERE MURDERED BY PEOPLE WAIVING THE CONFEDERATE FLAG! This did not happen in the fvcking north, you idiot.

Guess what happened during jim crow if a black man was accused of looking at/fvcking/touching a white woman? THEY LYNCHED HIM! Which means, murdered.

You may choose to ignore the blood on southern soil, but I would rather be honest.

I'm the moron? Guess what state had the strongest KKK presence in history?

I'm ignorant and bigoted about something I studied four years for? If you had read my second post about the history of the flag, then you would know that the KKK (and the flag) spread with the black migrations to the midwest and west. Wherever the kkk has spread, the confederate flag has gone with it.

Yes, bad things happened to blacks in the south. That does not tie the flag to the crimes.

Actually, it does. The confederate flag was created by southerners who wanted to create a nation solely on the basis of SLAVERY. After they lost the war, the KKK and other paramilitary organizations used the same flag as a symbol as they did such disgusting things that you don't seem very willing to acknowledge. After that, the flag spread with the KKK to much of the midwest. Starting the late 1940's it started popping up with the dixie crat movement, intensifying along with the civil rights movement. It was the common symbole used for comradeship among racists.

Look, if people want to stop the flag waving by the KKKers they need to do exatly what the KKKers did. Start waving the flag for their own cause.

Pure incoherence.

I guarantee the day blacks adopt the flag as their symbol, the KKKers will throw the same kind of fit you are and stop waving it themselves. By acting upset over the flag, you only give the haters MORE power.

Why would blacks adopt the symbol of past oppression???

Meanwhile, that does not change the fact that the flag is a symbol of Southern culture to many non-racist southerners.

I've grown up in the southern reaches of the U.S. south and can say with full conviction that I have NEVER met anyone with any class/intelligence who has displayed that symbol. My family has deep roots in the south, and they would be horrified if I wore anything with that flag on it. Only ignorant, angry rednecks want to keep it around. That southern culture crap is just an excuse.

 

[BannedTroll]

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: preslove


By the way, the main "mistreatment of the South following the war" was giving african americans basic human rights.

This alone proves you have no freakin clue. Just about every city and town in the South was looted and burned to the ground. The South was severely mistreated after the war.

And to believe the North was any great leader in civil rights during the era is to believe a myth. The North was no better than the post civil war Jim Crow South and continued to be for decades after the war.

Today, I can testify to the blatant racism in the midwest and the most "white flight" I have ever seen.

As for the rest of your tripe, it's just that. Ignorant, bigoted nonsense.

First off, all the destruction started during the war (which the south started), not afterwards. Second off, the Republican reconstruction governments weren't as bad as southern apologists claim. Nor were they any more corrupt than the Democratic governments that followed them (in fact they often continued the saim policies).


Finally, you have no idea what happened in the backwoods of every southern state in the post-war South. EVER HEARD OF A FVCKING LYNCHING YOU MORON????????

Black activists organized to vote in Republican politicians during reconstruction. You know how whites stopped this? The ballot box?? No, by whipping, shooting, hanging, dismembering, castrating, and decapitating the black activists. The blacks stopped voting after that, which is why the reconstruction republican state governments fell. Several thousand african americans WERE MURDERED BY PEOPLE WAIVING THE CONFEDERATE FLAG! This did not happen in the fvcking north, you idiot.

Guess what happened during jim crow if a black man was accused of looking at/fvcking/touching a white woman? THEY LYNCHED HIM! Which means, murdered.

You may choose to ignore the blood on southern soil, but I would rather be honest.

I'm the moron? Guess what state had the strongest KKK presence in history?

I'm ignorant and bigoted about something I studied four years for? If you had read my second post about the history of the flag, then you would know that the KKK (and the flag) spread with the black migrations to the midwest and west. Wherever the kkk has spread, the confederate flag has gone with it.

Yes, bad things happened to blacks in the south. That does not tie the flag to the crimes.

Actually, it does. The confederate flag was created by southerners who wanted to create a nation solely on the basis of SLAVERY. After they lost the war, the KKK and other paramilitary organizations used the same flag as a symbol as they did such disgusting things that you don't seem very willing to acknowledge. After that, the flag spread with the KKK to much of the midwest. Starting the late 1940's it started popping up with the dixie crat movement, intensifying along with the civil rights movement. It was the common symbole used for comradeship among racists.

Look, if people want to stop the flag waving by the KKKers they need to do exatly what the KKKers did. Start waving the flag for their own cause.

Pure incoherence.

I guarantee the day blacks adopt the flag as their symbol, the KKKers will throw the same kind of fit you are and stop waving it themselves. By acting upset over the flag, you only give the haters MORE power.

Why would blacks adopt the symbol of past oppression???

Meanwhile, that does not change the fact that the flag is a symbol of Southern culture to many non-racist southerners.

I've grown up in the southern reaches of the U.S. south and can say with full conviction that I have NEVER met anyone with any class/intelligence who has displayed that symbol. My family has deep roots in the south, and they would be horrified if I wore anything with that flag on it. Only ignorant, angry rednecks want to keep it around. That southern culture crap is just an excuse.

All I can see from your post in this thread is that you wasted four years.