Teenage girl commits suicide after rape and bullying

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BoberFett

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Oct 9, 1999
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That's the stupidest post I've ever seen on AT. And that's saying a lot.

No reasonable person gives a flying flip what a teenager does in private, alone - until they harm themselves. And no reasonable person can make such a ridiculous leap in logic.

Are you, and I'm being absolutely serious here, clinically retarded? You just stated that a sexting teenager should be prosecuted.
 

thraashman

Lifer
Apr 10, 2000
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That's the stupidest post I've ever seen on AT. And that's saying a lot.

No reasonable person gives a flying flip what a teenager does in private, alone - until they harm themselves. And no reasonable person can make such a ridiculous leap in logic.

I think he is just trying to redirect from his pro child pornography post. He's quite a disgusting sack of crap isn't he?
 

BoberFett

Lifer
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BlabberFret is just upset because I've proven him wrong so many times in P&N that he's finally had to accept that he is mentally disabled.

The only thing your posting in P&N has ever proven is that we should in fact encourage more abortions. It's only too bad we didn't catch you sooner.
 

Theb

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Feb 28, 2006
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Investigation is being reopened. I'm sure some of you will be crestfallen.

The RCMP is reopening its investigation into the Rehtaeh Parsons case "in light of new and credible information that has recently been brought forward to police."

In its press release, the RCMP emphasized its new information didn't come from an online source.

"The person providing the information is willing to verify who they are, the reason they're providing it and is willing to work with police," the release stated.

Sherri Bain, a friend of Rehtaeh's mother who launched a wildly popular petition calling for an inquiry into how police handled the case, welcomes the news.

"I think that is great that the RCMP is reopening the case. However, if we don't want this to happen again -- if we want real justice -- we need to find out why the RCMP did not lay charges in the first place," Bain said in a press release.

"The most devastating part of this whole situation was the failure of the justice system. If the police could have held the right people responsible the bullying would have stopped."

RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson said earlier in the day the RCMP would be open to working with online hacker group Anonymous, but "they've got to take their masks off, sadly."

The group announced it found the names of four boys allegedly involved in the gang rape of the Cole Harbour, N.S., teen but wasn't planning to release the information.

Rehtaeh, 17, was taken off life-support Sunday after trying to hang herself in the bathroom of her home April 4.

Her parents said she was raped by four boys when she was 15, then bullied after photos of the attack circulated online.
http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/canada/archives/2013/04/20130412-080852.html
 

tcsenter

Lifer
Sep 7, 2001
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Yeah, and when did she first tell anyone (police or even a friend) that she had been raped, AFTER the photos came-out and she was humiliated?
 

HeXen

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Dec 13, 2009
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Lol, you guys work to hard to prove your points. What happened to all the regular hard ass attitudes normally found here about someone committing suicide, esecially over rape
 

sixone

Lifer
May 3, 2004
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Are you, and I'm being absolutely serious here, clinically retarded? You just stated that a sexting teenager should be prosecuted.

I don't think the person who equates looking at oneself in a mirror as sexting has any room to point fingers.
 

videogames101

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Aug 24, 2005
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So you think the 25% of teenage girls who are sexting should be thrown in prison for producing child pornography?
Prison? Of course not. You didn't really think I'd say yes, did you?

I wouldn't object to a lesser crime for teenagers who do it, as opposed to prosecuting them as adults. But there should still be consequences.

Are you, and I'm being absolutely serious here, clinically retarded? You just stated that a sexting teenager should be prosecuted.

I don't think the person who equates looking at oneself in a mirror as sexting has any room to point fingers.

:hmm:
 

disappoint

Lifer
Dec 7, 2009
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Being alone with 4 boys and drinking heavily with them would qualify as a bad decision to me. Doesn't mean she consented. Doesn't mean she deserved what happened to her. But she did make a bad decision, it's just not the one that the would-be rapists in here are trying to claim.

Yes, bad decision. But that's not what ruined her life, as has been claimed.

Let me ask you something. When the other girl left, why didn't she leave as well? Why would she stay and drink with 4 guys unless she wanted to party with them?

It was the root cause.

Actually her father is the root cause.
 

sixone

Lifer
May 3, 2004
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Let me ask you something. When the other girl left, why didn't she leave as well? Why would she stay and drink with 4 guys unless she wanted to party with them?

Who said she didn't want to party with them? And if she did, so what?
 

disappoint

Lifer
Dec 7, 2009
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BlabberFret is just upset because I've proven him wrong so many times in P&N that he's finally had to accept that he is mentally disabled.

The only thing your posting in P&N has ever proven is that we should in fact encourage more abortions. It's only too bad we didn't catch you sooner.

He's got you there thraashman. You did prove that we should encourage more abortions to prevent people like blubberfeet from even being born.
 

disappoint

Lifer
Dec 7, 2009
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Who said she didn't want to party with them? And if she did, so what?

It implies consent. At what point did she decide she didn't want to have sex with them? Did she try to get away? Did she fight off her "attackers"? Did she say no? She was conscious the whole time. At what BAC are you no longer able to make decisions for yourself? She decided to get drunk and put herself in that situation. Doesn't that imply consent as well?
 

sixone

Lifer
May 3, 2004
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It implies consent. At what point did she decide she didn't want to have sex with them? Did she try to get away? Did she fight off her "attackers"? Did she say no? She was conscious the whole time. At what BAC are you no longer able to make decisions for yourself? She decided to get drunk and put herself in that situation. Doesn't that imply consent as well?

It implies absolutely nothing. We don't know whether she was too impaired to leave, at that point.

And even if she did make a deliberate decision to stay there with four guys, that alone does not imply consent to sexual activity.

Even if she went to that location with a clear intent to have sex with any or all of them, she's free to change her mind at any time. Getting drunk at any point between does not change the need for them to obtain consent BEFORE beginning sexual activity with her.
 

disappoint

Lifer
Dec 7, 2009
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Even if she went to that location with a clear intent to have sex with any or all of them, she's free to change her mind at any time.

Any time? How about after the event is over? After she left the place? Days after? Years after? Are you sure you meant any time?
 

imported_Salvatore

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Jul 9, 2004
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"allegedly involved in the gang rape"

Is it now legal fact that there was a gang rape?

Do you understand the word allegedly ?

The quote from the article implies that the person in question has been accused of taking part in a definite gang rape. His involvement is alleged, while the thing in which he allegedly was involved is taken for granted as existing, or as having happened. Notice: the word "allegedly" acts upon the word "involved"; involved in what? "the gang rape". Putting the word "the" before "gang rape" gives it a sense of existence, or being, in the minds of readers, I would argue.

Assuming that neither his involvement nor the gang rape are known to actually have happened, how could this sentence be improved? I don't ask this rhetorically; it's stumping me, too.

"...allegedly involved in the alleged gang rape" sounds only okay, but looks absolutely dreadful.

"...allegedly involved in the supposed gang rape" sounds better, and looks fine to me, owing to its being less repetitive.

"[the boy]...who was said to have participated in the alleged gang rape". I like this the best, after thinking things through and writing them out.

I hope you see where I'm coming from in my explanation. Also, what do you think about the replacement sentences? What would you write?
 
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