Originally posted by: Phlargo
While you guys maybe awfully hard on a kid who doesn't like women showing off in inappropriate venues, I for one completely agree. I'm 25 and have had many girlfriends, and a prerequisite for all of which was that they dressed in a way that showed some respect for themselves. I don't mind my girlfriend showing some skin, but it should be reserved for special occasions like evenings out, not the jaunt to the mall or sitting in class. Even then, boobs hanging out and other parts hanging out from other areas just isn't prudent. I would actually say that the modesty of a elegent, if revealing, dress is twice as sexy as any skin-tight, shiny low-cut, v-neck tank.
As a mid-twenties guy, among the top problems I have in finding good girlfriends is that so many of the girls I meet have a total lack of respect for their bodies and themselves. They use sex and the attraction of guys as surrogates for self-confidence and self-esteem.
Call it peculiar, but this exact notion meresults in my attraction being instead devoted towards women 5-10 years my senior. It seems that women in their thirties are more likely to have given up the slutty, give-me-attention-now look.
I think there's a larger problem showing itself here. I really believe that this is a bad trend and it's only getting younger and younger. You go to middle school and even elementary school and children are dressing sluttier and sluttier. I can't believe what I children wearing now.
Blame convenience, clothing manufacturers, the internet, whatever. It's a problem for both women trying to empower themselves in society (being delayed by the restrictions imposed on themselves by lack of confidence and the expectations of men they deal with). I'm in no way a feminist, but I do believe in equality for the sexes (and many other types) But until we consider the underlying reasons behind these social responses, we can't hope to fix or mitigate the behavior itself and that which propegates it.
First off, for the equality of the sexes, this comment really annoys the sh~t out of me. Look, there has NEVER been equality, and there never WILL BE equality. Why? men and women are different. You can't have equality between things that are different. Period. Apples and oranges can't be equal no matter what you try to do with them. Now, that's for SEXES, not other things. There is such a term as equally capable when it comes to jobs and such, which is a FACET that different objects can share the same quality or perhaps more then one. An apple and an orange are both fruits for example. They are both equal in the fact they are fruit and they have seeds and any other facets that are the same. Beyond that, there are too many differences to make an apple equal to an orange and vice versa. Same thing goes for men and women.
Look, if women want to dress this way. Fine. Don't sweat what others want to do and try to force YOUR VIEWS on them. That's the biggest sin of a free society when you try to make someone else do something you want them do. Yah, we technically aren't a free society because he do have rules of conduct, like not stealing, killing, blah blah blah which are enforced so we can live with each other in a society. Beyond that, telling someone what they should or should not wear is overstepping the grounds of collective rules for a society.
I also want to point out something for the older males. 16 IS LEGAL BY FEDERAL LAW, you numbskulls. It's the legal MINIMUM age, but then states are free to use a higher age if they want, just not lower then 16. The majority of states make the age of consent at 16 with a few exceptions using 17 or 18 as the min. Frikking eh.
To the OP... if you don't like the way slutty girls dress... then guess what? DO NOT LOOK AT THEM. Simple as pie. Express YOUR opinion of what interests you by finding a girl that doesn't dress with what you deem a
whore. Oh... and don't go making up stupid, third-rate, psycho analyst bullsh~t about why women dress the way they do. Just because a girl wants to wear a low-cut shirt doesn't mean she has self-esteem issues or is an attention whore. Many are in fact dressing that way for those reasons, but there is only ONE rule that has no exception...."There is an exception to every other rule."
Also, be aware that many young women don't dress like this for guys. Although many do. Many young women dress like this for OTHER WOMEN. No, I'm not talking about lesbos. I'm talking on an anthropological scale of fitting into a female heiarchy of peers. Usually one of the more popular and "lead" females dress like this and the others follow suit as a natural animalistic instinct. That is the way it's always been and which is why role-models are a big factor in human, in fact in any animal, development. Right now, the female role models for young women are pornstars, rockstars, movie stars, and playboy playmates. I'm serious. Women want to be successful in life too just like men and all they see day in and day out for a successful female in our society are women dressing and acting as you call
whores.
Which means, no amount of ranting and raving on ATOT boards is going to change this society trend. So what do I suggest? Deal with it. Either enjoy it and take pictures or turn in your damn man card!