Geosurface
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People should try a little harder to make some distinctions and understand what spidey is actually saying.
When he says "Society will no longer put up with that shit." he isn't saying "You're gonna see some bands of white people walking the streets grabbin' us some blackies again soon! YEEHAW!"
I know you who hate spidey and want to think about racial issues in these very childish, simplistic frameworks, want to think that's what he's saying. I think you know it's not, though. He's just saying that law-abiding members of society, from ALL races, may be getting to the point where they are no longer going to just roll over for the thugs and criminals, lower their head and walk away, allow their intimidation game to work anymore.
So, not lynch mobs indiscriminately grabbing black kids! Just normal people defending themselves from behaviors which are getting worse and have been for a long time. Certain elements of our society have started to think that it's a legitimate form of entertainment and blowing off steam to try to knock a stranger out, or flash mob a store, etc etc.
Spidey's talking about law-abiding, normal society, no longer just going into the fetal position and praying they don't get hurt, and waiting for these events to pass them by. But rather, to stand up to these thugs and criminals. I think it's a positive thing if it happens.
They aren't all black. There are thugs and criminals from every race, but in the United States in 2012, you'd have to be a simpleton to think that every race was providing an equal share to the "thug pool" - certain specific types of criminal behavior, certain trends in criminality, are exclusive to certain groups. Or nearly exclusive. Like the knockout game and flash mobs. Other activities happen in all groups, but way way more in one group vs. another. THAT is what he's talking about when he says "racial profiling works" and it's true.
Why do cops, the people who deal with criminals the most, racially profile even after they're told not to? Because it's an effective law enforcement tool. Serving several years in law enforcement can certainly turn a person into a real racist or at least what any casual glance would say is a racist.
The important thing for people in danger of becoming real, honest to goodness racists, to keep in mind, and always remember, is that just because you're seeing an outrageously high percentage of criminality coming from a particular small minority demographic, does not mean EVERYONE IN THAT GROUP IS THAT WAY.
There are some brilliant, amazing, kind-hearted, educated, intelligent, productive, law-abiding blacks in the USA. In the world in general. Of course they don't deserve to be lumped in or prejudged, but a lot of shit that isn't fair happens in our life... many hot women may prefer not to be gawked at by horny guys constantly. Yet, it is their lot in life. Many men may prefer not to be bent over by the custody and child support and divorce courts. Or to be eligible for the draft when the other gender isn't... those I believe should change, but for now it's the reality they face. Life isn't fair.
There are steps individuals can take to distinguish themselves from the thugs and criminals, and in fact, the thugs and criminals do most of the work by distinguishing themselves from normal people. It's unfortunate that some normal people still insist on adopting the dress, music, and low level intimidation persona of the thugs. This is ASKING to be misdiagnosed as one of them.
Race is just one part of it, does anyone here honestly think that spidey or any other white person would be afraid of a group of 4 black nerds with glasses, sweaters, khaki pants pulled up, walking down the street at night snorting and laughing about their latest Dungeons & Dragons session?
Anyway... we don't know yet whether Jordan Davis was a thug. We don't know yet whether Michael Dunn behaved rationally, or was a crazy racist piece of shit.
When he says "Society will no longer put up with that shit." he isn't saying "You're gonna see some bands of white people walking the streets grabbin' us some blackies again soon! YEEHAW!"
I know you who hate spidey and want to think about racial issues in these very childish, simplistic frameworks, want to think that's what he's saying. I think you know it's not, though. He's just saying that law-abiding members of society, from ALL races, may be getting to the point where they are no longer going to just roll over for the thugs and criminals, lower their head and walk away, allow their intimidation game to work anymore.
So, not lynch mobs indiscriminately grabbing black kids! Just normal people defending themselves from behaviors which are getting worse and have been for a long time. Certain elements of our society have started to think that it's a legitimate form of entertainment and blowing off steam to try to knock a stranger out, or flash mob a store, etc etc.
Spidey's talking about law-abiding, normal society, no longer just going into the fetal position and praying they don't get hurt, and waiting for these events to pass them by. But rather, to stand up to these thugs and criminals. I think it's a positive thing if it happens.
They aren't all black. There are thugs and criminals from every race, but in the United States in 2012, you'd have to be a simpleton to think that every race was providing an equal share to the "thug pool" - certain specific types of criminal behavior, certain trends in criminality, are exclusive to certain groups. Or nearly exclusive. Like the knockout game and flash mobs. Other activities happen in all groups, but way way more in one group vs. another. THAT is what he's talking about when he says "racial profiling works" and it's true.
Why do cops, the people who deal with criminals the most, racially profile even after they're told not to? Because it's an effective law enforcement tool. Serving several years in law enforcement can certainly turn a person into a real racist or at least what any casual glance would say is a racist.
The important thing for people in danger of becoming real, honest to goodness racists, to keep in mind, and always remember, is that just because you're seeing an outrageously high percentage of criminality coming from a particular small minority demographic, does not mean EVERYONE IN THAT GROUP IS THAT WAY.
There are some brilliant, amazing, kind-hearted, educated, intelligent, productive, law-abiding blacks in the USA. In the world in general. Of course they don't deserve to be lumped in or prejudged, but a lot of shit that isn't fair happens in our life... many hot women may prefer not to be gawked at by horny guys constantly. Yet, it is their lot in life. Many men may prefer not to be bent over by the custody and child support and divorce courts. Or to be eligible for the draft when the other gender isn't... those I believe should change, but for now it's the reality they face. Life isn't fair.
There are steps individuals can take to distinguish themselves from the thugs and criminals, and in fact, the thugs and criminals do most of the work by distinguishing themselves from normal people. It's unfortunate that some normal people still insist on adopting the dress, music, and low level intimidation persona of the thugs. This is ASKING to be misdiagnosed as one of them.
Race is just one part of it, does anyone here honestly think that spidey or any other white person would be afraid of a group of 4 black nerds with glasses, sweaters, khaki pants pulled up, walking down the street at night snorting and laughing about their latest Dungeons & Dragons session?
Anyway... we don't know yet whether Jordan Davis was a thug. We don't know yet whether Michael Dunn behaved rationally, or was a crazy racist piece of shit.
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