What do you not understand about innocent until proven guilty?
Just because someone is on trial for defending themselves doesn't automatically mean you should demonize them, as many of you are doing here.
honestly - you guys are such fucking tools. your method of arguing is to use generalizations. but you know what - you're right that the prosecution will have to work on the jury to get them comfortable with this because juries are fucking idiots
i understand innocent until proven guilty. do you understand that you can easily impeach a witness if there is self-interest involved - which is obviously the case here. We aren't demonizing anyone - you are using weak circumstantial evidence to exonerate the accused. I am only saying that the evidence is heavily against Dunn and this is overall a sad sad case for everyone involved.
The durango felon crew leaving the scene to ditch something when their entire case revolves around this shotgun is hardly circumstantial.
They definitely ditched something, no doubt about it. If it were drugs then one of them would've slunked off and hid it. The only logical reason for driving the entire vehicle around is if it's something you can't stick in your pocket.......... Like a shotgun.
Any other excuses for them leaving, circling a parking lot, then returning to the scene?
it's not even worth arguing this against you anymore. you've made up your mind so good for you. you are the one using emotions instead of logic. if you think you wouldn't want to ditch drugs OUTSIDE the car, then you're delusional. I would never just keep it in my pocket when I could be subject to a search.
you should have realized that a long time ago...every is THUG, ROFL, THUG, ROFL, THUG...I threw in the towel a while ago.
Also known as...
EVIDENCE and EYE WITNESSS
it's not even worth arguing this against you anymore. you've made up your mind so good for you. you are the one using emotions instead of logic. if you think you wouldn't want to ditch drugs OUTSIDE the car, then you're delusional. I would never just keep it in my pocket when I could be subject to a search.
Yes, that has the thug locked up without bail facing murder in the second degree
It doesn't matter, if this goes to trial I assure you that the defense is going to be all over them leaving the scene. The verbal threats likely won't even be a huge factor since there are no outside witnesses.
I wouldn't be surprised if one of the durango felon crew rats everyone out to get a shorter sentence.
Wow, "durango felon crew"? I just saw this thread but am amazed at the instant racist undertones in your comments.
there is only circumstantial evidence - and to be honest, it's very weak - they could have drove away to ditch drugs, for example, before calling the cops.
I am saying that if one of them had drugs and just had some guy completely randomly shoot at them then only one would've ran off and hid the drugs somewhere.
There is no logical reason for the entire vehicle including someone bleeding out to leave and circle a parking lot for some drugs.
The durango felon crew leaving the scene to ditch something when their entire case revolves around this shotgun is hardly circumstantial.
They definitely ditched something, no doubt about it. If it were drugs then one of them would've slunked off and hid it. The only logical reason for driving the entire vehicle around is if it's something you can't stick in your pocket.......... Like a shotgun.
Any other excuses for them leaving, circling a parking lot, then returning to the scene?
I am saying that if one of them had drugs and just had some guy completely randomly shoot at them then only one would've ran off and hid the drugs somewhere.
There is no logical reason for the entire vehicle including someone bleeding out to leave and circle a parking lot for some drugs.
They Live, Captain Caveman, soundforbjt, maziwanka, Corporate Thug, et al:
Honest question... do you really believe a middle aged businessman waiting for his girlfriend to return to the car just up and decided it was worth throwing his life away and potentially murdering several strangers over them not turning down their music?
Is that really, actually believable to you? It passes the sniff test?
He's been increasing the intensity of the racist undertones as the effectiveness wears off, trying to get under the skin of non-racists.
They Live, Captain Caveman, soundforbjt, maziwanka, Corporate Thug, et al:
Honest question... do you really believe a middle aged businessman waiting for his girlfriend to return to the car just up and decided it was worth throwing his life away and potentially murdering several strangers over them not turning down their music?
Is that really, actually believable to you? It passes the sniff test?
Or is there some alternate way you're viewing this which is a bit more nuanced? I'd honestly appreciate any sort of conjecture you can provide as to how you are envisioning this going down, and the motivation/thoughts going through Dunn's head as he got his gun and fired it.
you will never admit that your comments are laced with racism, but they are.
I believe discovery evidence has been released.
They Live, Captain Caveman, soundforbjt, maziwanka, Corporate Thug, et al:
Honest question... do you really believe a middle aged businessman
waiting for his girlfriend to return to the car just up and decided it was worth throwing his life away and potentially murdering several strangers over them not turning down their music?
Is that really, actually believable to you? It passes the sniff test?
They're only "laced with racism" if SpatiallyAware would be saying the exact same stuff about a Durango full of black kids still dressed in cosplay as wizards and warriors having just come from a Comic-Con type event...
I don't believe he would be saying that, and I don't think you believe it either.
Which makes his (admittedly cynical) posture toward this case more about observing real demographic trends and behavioral patterns which tend to cluster together. Such as, if there's a felon in your car it's likely there is shady criminality going on... etc.
I also think that if Dunn was some crazy looking white meth-head or skinhead with a swastika tattoo on his arm, SpatiallyAware would be considerably more skeptical of him.
I don't think it's fair to blame SA for the fact that the world often lines up with these stereotypes (though not always) or to call that "racism"
It's cynicism and world-weariness which, unfortunately, tend to line up with reality rather often.
At Tuesday's hearing, Strolla also asked for suppression of certain records, such as witness statements and other information.