so, from my perspective, you're using terminology that's related to summary judgments. if there's a question of fact for the jury (or judge, if the judge is the trier of fact at trial - not everything gets a jury and not everyone wants a jury), then summary judgment must be denied.
You thought lamenting sue-happy litigiousness was a partisan thing?I think its interesting how the people who normally complain about how America is sue happy and lawsuits are some great evil are now defending this lawsuit that they for some reason find totally valid.
I think its interesting how the people who normally complain about how America is sue happy and lawsuits are some great evil are now defending this lawsuit that they for some reason find totally valid.
We get it: A particularly high number of people who like Fox News are hypocrites. Isn't this, like, the 40th time someone has shared this exact sentiment here in the last few days? I probably even Liked it the first time I saw it.Right, and I'm sure they'd be all for it if Fox News was the defendant here and the plaintiff was say, an anti-Trump protester, right?
We get it: A particularly high number of people who like Fox News are hypocrites. Isn't this, like, the 40th time someone has shared this exact sentiment here in the last few days? I probably even Liked it the first time I saw it.
You thought lamenting sue-happy litigiousness was a partisan thing?
Anyway, I'm talking about negligently ruining someone's life with casually repeated false statements that could have been easily disproven (with almost no effort).
Well, there is this thread where people still keep calling him a "dickweed" for what happened that day.Is there any evidence this kids life is "ruined" from this. Is he not able to cope, in drug rehab, homeless? Is the purpose of the lawsuit to actually win against the Washington Post, or to establish the family as victims. This was a well to do family. If I recall correctly, there was a go fund me for this kid. Donations from conservative groups. Catholics raised thousands for this kids college fund. I'm sure he's going to college for free. He became famous enough to get to meet the President.
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This kid was so traumatized, that instead of putting this "sordid" episode behind him - letting it die and went back to just being a kid.. He and his parents decided to file a $250 million lawsuit against a newspaper for reporting the story that every other news outlet reported on.
Had this kid and his parents released a statement regretting his involvement in this incident, asked to be left alone to resume his life as a child and just went away, the kid would have my full support. Instead his parents hired a Republican PR firm, made the rounds in the right wing media to become the poster boy for identity politics
Well, there is this thread where people still keep calling him a "dickweed" for what happened that day.
He'll never fully escape this.
If he grows out of being a dickweed, he'll be fine. And if not, he'll have a career in Republican politics and still be fine.Well, there is this thread where people still keep calling him a "dickweed" for what happened that day.
He'll never fully escape this.
*woosh*If he grows out of being a dickweed, he'll be fine. And if not, he'll have a career in Republican politics and still be fine.
Is there any evidence this kids life is "ruined" from this. Is he not able to cope, in drug rehab, homeless? Is the purpose of the lawsuit to actually win against the Washington Post, or to establish the family as victims. This was a well to do family. If I recall correctly, there was a go fund me for this kid. Donations from conservative groups. Catholics raised thousands for this kids college fund. I'm sure he's going to college for free. He became famous enough to get to meet the President.
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This kid was so traumatized, that instead of putting this "sordid" episode behind him - letting it die and went back to just being a kid.. He and his parents decided to file a $250 million lawsuit against a newspaper for reporting the story that every other news outlet reported on.
Had this kid and his parents released a statement regretting his involvement in this incident, asked to be left alone to resume his life as a child and just went away, the kid would have my full support. Instead his parents hired a Republican PR firm, made the rounds in the right wing media to become the poster boy for identity politics
Like we have memories or attention spans to support such connections in the future. I'd have to go back up and read the thread to recall the kid's name. If I ever happen to meet the kid in the future, if he isn't wearing the fascist hat or rallying to deny women their rights, it would be fair to say that my opinion of him would be neutral. Being "the kid with a punchable face" isn't likely to carry through life.This isn't something that he can "let die" unfortunately. The media attached his name to this incident, and then numerous news outlets worked very hard to paint him as a terrible human being. The fact that he is still being called names in this thread supports my point. Everyone this kid meets in the future will have their opinions already influenced by major news outlets.
Like we have memories or attention spans to support such connections in the future. I'd have to go back up and read the thread to recall the kid's name.
Don't be obtuse. Kid would have the same problems as any valid case of libel/slander regardless of whether or not he is entitled to sue.Like we have memories or attention spans to support such connections in the future. I'd have to go back up and read the thread to recall the kid's name. If I ever happen to meet the kid in the future, if he isn't wearing the fascist hat or rallying to deny women their rights, it would be fair to say that my opinion of him would be neutral. Being "the kid with a punchable face" isn't likely to carry through life.
You already know the answer to that because you just quoted it.
If they fail in their duty and get it wrong for immoral reasons including rush, outrage, clicks, dollars, social media buzz, etc.
It's unethical journalism and immoral, just not typically illegal. I have no reason to believe it was illegal and every reason to believe it was immoral. You seemed to think that question was particularly hard to answer which just goes to show what a different wavelength you are operating on.
The Black Hebrew Israelite Movement is comprised of some groups or members that have expressed anti-Semitic sentiments, however the Southern Poverty Law Center does not recognize the overall movement as a hate group.
By far the most problematic group in the video to me was the Black Israelites. It was not un-noticed how the media did everything in their power to minimize their words.
Now that members of the group have gone on an anti-Semitic murder rampage, the media unbelievably asks who this group is. More unbelievably, the SPLC does not recognize the group as a hate group even after we all saw the rhetoric they used in the video of this event.
Who are the Black Hebrew Israelites? - CNN
A man suspected of killing a police officer and three people at a kosher market in Jersey City, New Jersey, was linked Wednesday to the Black Hebrew Israelite movement, a law enforcement official said.www.cnn.com
By far the most problematic group in the video to me was the Black Israelites. It was not un-noticed how the media did everything in their power to minimize their words.
Now that members of the group have gone on an anti-Semitic murder rampage, the media unbelievably asks who this group is. More unbelievably, the SPLC does not recognize the group as a hate group even after we all saw the rhetoric they used in the video of this event.
Who are the Black Hebrew Israelites? - CNN
A man suspected of killing a police officer and three people at a kosher market in Jersey City, New Jersey, was linked Wednesday to the Black Hebrew Israelite movement, a law enforcement official said.www.cnn.com
By far the most problematic group in the video to me was the Black Israelites. It was not un-noticed how the media did everything in their power to minimize their words.
Now that members of the group have gone on an anti-Semitic murder rampage, the media unbelievably asks who this group is. More unbelievably, the SPLC does not recognize the group as a hate group even after we all saw the rhetoric they used in the video of this event.
Who are the Black Hebrew Israelites? - CNN
A man suspected of killing a police officer and three people at a kosher market in Jersey City, New Jersey, was linked Wednesday to the Black Hebrew Israelite movement, a law enforcement official said.www.cnn.com
From the article, it seems it is problematic to label them as a hate group on the basis that a minority don't represent the whole in terms of terroristic acts, similar to terrorism carried under the flag of Islam. I'm not sure there are distinct named groups of Black Israelites to label that way either.
I can certainly understand media being hesitant to call out a relatively unknown group knowing that what they write about the few will color impressions of the many. Not to mention the carryover affiliations that are naturally drawn with the words "black" and "Israelites" who already face their share of historical and present discrimination.
Is there room for complexity here? Maybe now. To me it's different than, for example, viewing BLM through a critical lens or supporters of OJ (not OJ himself). I think that is reinforcing a taboo where lack of realistic dialog is perpetuating Injustice.
By far the most problematic group in the video to me was the Black Israelites. It was not un-noticed how the media did everything in their power to minimize their words.
Now that members of the group have gone on an anti-Semitic murder rampage, the media unbelievably asks who this group is. More unbelievably, the SPLC does not recognize the group as a hate group even after we all saw the rhetoric they used in the video of this event.
Who are the Black Hebrew Israelites? - CNN
A man suspected of killing a police officer and three people at a kosher market in Jersey City, New Jersey, was linked Wednesday to the Black Hebrew Israelite movement, a law enforcement official said.www.cnn.com
Are you the victim here?Want to kill people? No biggie as long as your skin isn't white.
Like to use a frog meme? YOURE A PART OF A HATE GROUP!
lMore unbelievably, the SPLC does not recognize the group as a hate group even after we all saw the rhetoric they used in the video of this event.
Who are the Black Hebrew Israelites? - CNN
A man suspected of killing a police officer and three people at a kosher market in Jersey City, New Jersey, was linked Wednesday to the Black Hebrew Israelite movement, a law enforcement official said.www.cnn.com