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Vic

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By far the most problematic group in the video to me was the Black Israelites. It was not un-noticed how the media did everything in their power to minimize their words.

Now that members of the group have gone on an anti-Semitic murder rampage, the media unbelievably asks who this group is. More unbelievably, the SPLC does not recognize the group as a hate group even after we all saw the rhetoric they used in the video of this event.

Want to kill people? No biggie as long as your skin isn't white.

Like to use a frog meme? YOURE A PART OF A HATE GROUP!



It took me barely 30 seconds on the SPLC's website to discover that they do consider Black Israelites, and other Black Separatist groups, to be hate groups. Do you just not mind being wrong all the time, or are you lying on purpose to further a racist agenda of white victimhood?

 

Vic

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Incorrect.

Fact: The SPLC lists 144 Black Hebrew Israelite (BHI) groups as Black separatist hate groups because of their anti-white and antisemitic beliefs.
They are literally trying to argue that because the SPLC doesn't list ALL Black Israelite groups as hate groups, including the ones that don't want to kill and oppress people, that the SPLC is being racist to white supremacist groups that do want to kill and oppress people, for listing them as hate groups.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
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It took me barely 30 seconds on the SPLC's website to discover that they do consider Black Israelites, and other Black Separatist groups, to be hate groups. Do you just not mind being wrong all the time, or are you lying on purpose to further a racist agenda of white victimhood?


What's bizarre is that the very article he linked says the SPLC does designate them as a hate group. Or rather, various sub-groupings of them, as it isn't one unified movement.
 
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JEDIYoda

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What's bizarre is that the very article he linked says the SPLC does designate them as a hate group. Or rather, various sub-groupings of them, as it isn't one unified movement.
I just Love you all!! Lefts all circle the wagons and sing -- Kumbaya.....
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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What's bizarre is that the very article he linked says the SPLC does designate them as a hate group. Or rather, various sub-groupings of them, as it isn't one unified movement.

are you suggesting, maybe, that bshole account is an empty vessel for Russian propaganda, stirring up fake hate by just shoveling off talking points and links that he is not allowed to bother reading?

Is that maybe what is happening?

Is it possible that this strategy works, and persists, because it manages to catch other illiterate dumbassess in the cast net...as proven since his post, in a very pathetic way?

Is that what you're saying? I don't want to put words in your mouth...
 
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woolfe9998

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are you suggesting, maybe, that bshole account is an empty vessel for Russian propaganda, stirring up fake hate by just shoveling off talking points and links that he is not allowed to bother reading?

Is that maybe what is happening?

Is it possible that this strategy works, and persists, because it manages to catch other illiterate dumbassess in the cast net...as proven since his post, in a very pathetic way?

Is that what you're saying? I don't want to put words in your mouth...

Bshole has been posting here for 6 years off and on, and he's sent me at least one PM, so I doubt it's a shell for Russian propaganda. Beyond that, I wouldn't speculate on his motives.
 

zinfamous

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Bshole has been posting here for 6 years off and on, and he's sent me at least one PM, so I doubt it's a shell for Russian propaganda. Beyond that, I wouldn't speculate on his motives.

Well, when I say "pumping Russian propaganda," it can always be in "the retarded" fashion that is much more likely--they just absorb and repeat Youtube videos and fake articles, because the bias they see here is the bias that they want to believe, and it only ever comes from Russian troll farms and psy-ops. Such people don't have to know that this is where their information is coming from, but they are just as guilty of pushing this fake nonsense as the people that produce it, because their brains have been skull-fucked by decades of bullshit agitprop that has only ever been purposefully designed to hinder and remove all critical thinking skills from these people.

and yeah...bshole used to PM me constantly. Just a regular dude by all accounts, but has clearly left the farm since then. The interesting thing is how he went back through his account and deleted nearly every single post from his pre-skull-fucked days. I feel bad for the guy, because something happened.
 
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bshole

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I've heard of them, but I'm not that familiar with their screed.

First question I have: are they anti-Semitic or anti-Israel? worlds of difference there, and the terms have been thoroughly conflated by the GOP propaganda machine. Not that I'm saying they aren't, I'm just not familiar with them.

...Care to update your Foxcon thread?

I hate Foxcon and I hate Walker for bringing them in. I believe it is the worst thing to happen to Wisconsin in my lifetime and that it will eventually ruin Southeastern Wisconsin. It definitely solidifies my determination to move upon retirement.

You bring up a great point about the difference between anti-Semitic and anti-Israel. I believe the Labour Party in Britain demonstrates how being anti-Israel can lead some people to become anti-Semitic.
Under Corbyn, Labour became a “safe space” for anti-Semites, according to a damning 2016 report by an interparliamentary committee of inquiry formed by the House of Commons. Corbyn has disputed the committee’s findings and pledged a zero-tolerance policy toward any form of racism. But some of the cases involve him personally, leading former British Chief Rabbi Jonathan Sacks to call Corbyn an anti-Semite.

How did the party that has long been the political home for much of the British Jewish community, not to mention a party closely associated with the fight against bigotry and discrimination, become a hotbed of anti-Semitism?
:
The swelling of Labour’s ranks with far-left activists, many of them from anti-Israel groups, has accounted for a significant portion of the thousands of cases of alleged anti-Semitism reported to the party’s ethics panel.

One of them was Marc Wadsworth, a minority rights activist who earlier this year allegedly used a racist slur against Ruth Smeeth, a Jewish Labour lawmaker. The incident happened a month after he joined Labour. Wadsworth, who denies Smeeth’s allegation, has since been kicked out of the party.

Watch the video to the end. Do you think that some of things Labour supporters said at the end were anti-Semitic?

It is weird in America to see the far right and the far left both complaining about Israel and AIPAC. I didn't even know AIPAC existed a few years ago. They both seem to blame many of our wars in the Middle East on AIPAC. It is an interesting assertion. I don't believe opposing AIPAC is anti-Semitic, especially if AIPAC is funneling money to American politicians in an effort to cause them to engage in wars in the Middle East. I am 100% against all military engagements in the Middle East. I am also very pro-Israel as it is by far the best government in the Middle East (in my opinion).
Israel has been one of the leading countries in the past eighteen years in terms of number of international patents filed via the Patent Cooperation Treaty (PCT) in relation to population size. The peak came in 2000, when Israel was ranked third in the world for patents filed per capita according to the country of the inventor, after Finland and Sweden. Today, Israel is fifth, after Japan, Sweden, Switzerland and South Korea. Finland has dropped to sixth. The data are from a new report by the National Council for Research and Development in the Ministry of Science and Technology.


It seems highly improbable that one could be a Black Israelite and not be an anti-Semite. Black Israelites are STEALING the history of the Jews and claiming it as their own. That is a blatant, vicious and hateful assault on Jewish identity and it is based on not one shred of factual evidence. An entire movement built on the denial/theft of Jewish history and there are questions regarding whether any faction of this group are not hateful? Really?
 

jackstar7

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Cadets picking up the tiki torch.

I hope when we adopt a new constitution we consider re-naming the country, too.

Country McCountryface seems more appropriate these days.
 

bshole

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What's bizarre is that the very article he linked says the SPLC does designate them as a hate group. Or rather, various sub-groupings of them, as it isn't one unified movement.

I am glad of that and will try to do better job of reading articles in future. That was pretty pathetic on my part.

Has anybody talked about the reaction of the onlookers? That to me was the most shocking part of the entire incident. There is video footage of it and can be seen in the link below. I have linked some of the comments below. I got this from a Jewish site since apparently the American MSM didn't think the reactions were newsworthy.

A video that was shared by American Against Anti Semitism shows a shocking encounter between a representative and onlookers at the scene of the horrific terror attack.

The woman can be heard saying “I blame the Jews” and “we never had a shooting like this until they came” when the rep asked if her children were stuck at school, she responded “Yes, because of Jew Shenanigans”

Others could be heard saying “They got shot dead, That’s great”

Another man can be heard “Get the damn Jews the F***k out”

“While the Jewish blood of terror victims was still warm, local residents gathered outside not to show support, not to offer help, but to condemn Jews, blame Jews for their own deaths, and cheer it on,” said Dov Hikind on the shocking footage. “The big story here is that not only was there a horrible terror attack motivated by antisemitism that occurred, but it happened in a context in which wishing death on Jews seems totally normal.”
 

HurleyBird

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I got this from a Jewish site since apparently the American MSM didn't think the reactions were newsworthy.

It's not the reaction that they don't find newsworthy, it's the speaker. Now, had that been some white dude (or anyone wearing a MAGA hat) saying the same thing you'd get NBC, CBS, ABC, etc. frothing at the mouth. And on the other side of the equation had it been an Arab of any sort (or possibly if the target was whites in general as opposed to Jews) you'd have Fox frothing at the mouth. But no one cares about a disgustingly anti-Semitic black woman. It doesn't play in with any of the corporate narratives.
 
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compuwiz1

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CNN has settled

The amount has not been disclosed, but it's surprising to me that this has been done. This will now become case history for others to follow. Will media now be more responsible? Nah, I don't think so. It's all about viewership, no matter how dishonest the reporting. They've got a lot of money.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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CNN has settled

The amount has not been disclosed, but it's surprising to me that this has been done. This will now become case history for others to follow. Will media now be more responsible? Nah, I don't think so. It's all about viewership, no matter how dishonest the reporting. They've got a lot of money.

The settlement is undisclosed. How would it become case history?
 
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JSt0rm

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Says the guy who obviously consumes Fox News through a fire hose without any sense of irony.

dude doesnt even understand case law but we somehow supposed to accept some weak argument he comes up with. The dude is like 80 years old and never learned anything.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
Jun 26, 2009
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CNN has settled

The amount has not been disclosed, but it's surprising to me that this has been done. This will now become case history for others to follow. Will media now be more responsible? Nah, I don't think so. It's all about viewership, no matter how dishonest the reporting. They've got a lot of money.
Expand on this.

It seems like you have a lot more to say.
 

ElFenix

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CNN has settled

The amount has not been disclosed, but it's surprising to me that this has been done. This will now become case history for others to follow. Will media now be more responsible? Nah, I don't think so. It's all about viewership, no matter how dishonest the reporting. They've got a lot of money.
that's not how this works. that's not how any of this works.
 

Mai72

Lifer
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Unless he foolishly spends his money on yahts, mansions and lambos this kid won't have to work a day EVER. So, he won't have to worry about finding employment unless he really wants to work.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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Unless he foolishly spends his money on yahts, mansions and lambos this kid won't have to work a day EVER. So, he won't have to worry about finding employment unless he really wants to work.
Based on what? Weren’t the terms undisclosed?
 

Greenman

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What's the source of your happiness here? Do you think this is justice?
I think its correct. CNN ran with a story that did the lad damage because it fit their agenda. They got caught, now they write the check. The reality is the amount is probably a tiny percentage of what he was asking for. The major point is that CNN didn't want to make its case in front of a jury, they didn't want any more coverage of the story, and paying him off was the least expensive option. I wish it had gone to trial, but understand his desire to accept a payoff and be done with it. Perhaps one of the other two media outlets he's suing will decide to stand up for their first amendment rights and present their cast to a jury. I'd like to see that.
 
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