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jackstar7

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I think its correct. CNN ran with a story that did the lad damage because it fit their agenda. They got caught, now they write the check. The reality is the amount is probably a tiny percentage of what he was asking for. The major point is that CNN didn't want to make its case in front of a jury, they didn't want any more coverage of the story, and paying him off was the least expensive option. I wish it had gone to trial, but understand his desire to accept a payoff and be done with it. Perhaps one of the other two media outlets he's suing will decide to stand up for their first amendment rights and present their cast to a jury. I'd like to see that.
What's the CNN agenda?
 

Vic

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Like all major "news" outlets these days, ratings. They do not care about real news, they just care about making money by telling their side of the news.
How is that 'these days' and not how the media has always operated?

Regardless, I will go with the media outlets that have the integrity to admit their errors, and not the ones that would have us believe that they're infalliable.
 
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or it lawsuits are expensive and they settled for nuisance value. we have no idea what the settlement was.
 
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I think its correct. CNN ran with a story that did the lad damage because it fit their agenda. They got caught, now they write the check. The reality is the amount is probably a tiny percentage of what he was asking for. The major point is that CNN didn't want to make its case in front of a jury, they didn't want any more coverage of the story, and paying him off was the least expensive option. I wish it had gone to trial, but understand his desire to accept a payoff and be done with it. Perhaps one of the other two media outlets he's suing will decide to stand up for their first amendment rights and present their cast to a jury. I'd like to see that.

Yeah, I’m no expert but this sounds about right. I’m going to guess the payment is in the 10s of thousands range. Enough to get a good start on things but not set for life kind of money.
I think of myself on a jury that is tasked with deciding damages, I’ve been on two such juries so I have experience. I can’t imagine life long damages for something like this that was ultimately corrected and became public knowledge it was corrected. Legal expenses are under his control, no jail time, no injuries. Sort of hard to say this event damaged him so much that he will never be capable of supporting himself.
 

IronWing

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Like all major "news" outlets these days, ratings. They do not care about real news, they just care about making money by telling their side of the news.
What is "their side of the news"? This is fun.

I think that any of the networks would set babies on fire for ratings but for CNN, I think that is the extent of their agenda.
 
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Greenman

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Yeah, I’m no expert but this sounds about right. I’m going to guess the payment is in the 10s of thousands range. Enough to get a good start on things but not set for life kind of money.
I think of myself on a jury that is tasked with deciding damages, I’ve been on two such juries so I have experience. I can’t imagine life long damages for something like this that was ultimately corrected and became public knowledge it was corrected. Legal expenses are under his control, no jail time, no injuries. Sort of hard to say this event damaged him so much that he will never be capable of supporting himself.
Don't forget punitive damages. Get a bunch of red state Trumpers on the jury and they'd give the kid a serious payday.
 

Lanyap

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From The Hill article. I really hope he doesn't sue Phillips. That guy has some serious problems and I doubt he has any money to payoff a lawsuit unless liberal supporters, like Hollywood types help him. He still doesn't need to go through all of that based on his history previously reported.
Sandmann also reportedly plans to sue Phillips as well as news organization Gannett over the reporting of The Cincinnati Enquirer.



Even if Sandmann received a few million he's still "ahead of the game".
Wood said the damages were sought due to “emotional distress Nicholas and his family suffered." He also said the family had to move from their home temporarily and that Nicholas was not permitted to attend school directly after the trip to Washington.
 
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Don't forget punitive damages. Get a bunch of red state Trumpers on the jury and they'd give the kid a serious payday.

Per my experience in liability court punitive damages never came up.
The judge issues rules as in don’t assume the injured party has insurance or it was agreed upon to say the injured party is still employed with the same employer doing a lower salary position.
The two I was on did not leave an option for anything but compensation for the injury.

Again I’m not a legal expert just speaking from two liability juries I have been on

The court does not work the way it is portrayed on TV
 

Mai72

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I think its correct. CNN ran with a story that did the lad damage because it fit their agenda. They got caught, now they write the check. The reality is the amount is probably a tiny percentage of what he was asking for. The major point is that CNN didn't want to make its case in front of a jury, they didn't want any more coverage of the story, and paying him off was the least expensive option. I wish it had gone to trial, but understand his desire to accept a payoff and be done with it. Perhaps one of the other two media outlets he's suing will decide to stand up for their first amendment rights and present their cast to a jury. I'd like to see that.

I thought he won the lawsuit for $275m. Snoopes is say that the amount was unpoven so who knows. I'll bet that he won at least $1m.

 

Vic

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Don't forget punitive damages. Get a bunch of red state Trumpers on the jury and they'd give the kid a serious payday.
Funny how the RWNJ's usual cries of frivolous lawsuits and tort reform go out the window when they identify with the plaintiff.

Hypocrites.

Of course, we've already seen how MAGAs work against basic law and order when they deadlocked the jury at the UW shooting. It seems your ilk believes it's perfectly okay to pre-mediate a shooting of an unarmed person as long as the right people are doing the shooting, and the victim is politically appropriate.
 
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Vic

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What I like best about reading this thread is contrasting it to a local case from around the same time in which a black man was kicked out of a hotel in the middle of the night because he is black. The initial story from the hotel staff was that it was because he was in the lobby and didn't provide proof that he was a guest in the hotel. But then it came out that security knew he was a guest and even escorted him to his room to get his bags before kicking him out.
And of course, he's suing for that, which has been well-publicized. And the comments from the conservatives on the local birdcage liner's comments section is all about how he deserved it, with fabrications about how he didn't comply with something (for which there is no evidence), and anger over frivolous lawsuits, etc. And there's even conservative outrage over how the hotel promptly fired the staff involved, and over the rumored 8 figure settlement.

But hey, we get it. Conservatives aren't racist. The black guy just should've worn his MAGA hat.

And of course, conservatives all love free speech and the 1a. Which is why they're celebrating a lawsuit against a media outlet solely because they disagree with its speech.
 
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