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J Heartless Slick

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
Originally posted by: colonel
she will energize a lot of women voters by getting more involved with issues than Laura.
yes I think so, and it doesn't mean she will run the country like republican said about the Clintons, they are afraid about women with brains.....

The Republicans are not afraid of women with brains. How can you even begin to believe that Hillary Clinton had a brain?

I'm not getting into her politics, but how can you say that she has no brain? She got her undergrad degree at Wellesley, and her law degree from Yale.

Some people hate Ms Clinton without any reasonable cause. I have written alot of that off to the effectiveness the right's slime machine. I am waiting for them to demonize Ms Heinz Kerry too.
 

J Heartless Slick

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
Originally posted by: colonel
she will energize a lot of women voters by getting more involved with issues than Laura.
yes I think so, and it doesn't mean she will run the country like republican said about the Clintons, they are afraid about women with brains.....

The Republicans are not afraid of women with brains. How can you even begin to believe that Hillary Clinton had a brain?

I'm not getting into her politics, but how can you say that she has no brain? She got her undergrad degree at Wellesley, and her law degree from Yale.

Some people hate Ms Clinton without any reasonable cause. I have written alot of that off to the effectiveness the right's slime machine. I am waiting for them to demonize Ms Heinz Kerry too.
 

0roo0roo

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watching her right now with the pbs rerun. she did a good job definetly.

and yes, the hate machine will start spinning.... she's not "american" enough immigrant bashing, woman who speaks her mind bashing etc.
 

Riprorin

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I heard that Kerry flushed out the media from the room he was watching Teresa's speech from. Too bad they weren't there, I would like to know what his reaction was to that train wreck.
 

Riprorin

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Interesting editiorial on Teresa Heinz-Kerry:

Evita Heinz Kerry

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Posted: July 28, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

I guess it's not important that a future first lady may be mentally unbalanced.

It's been a long, strange trip indeed for Teresa Heinz Kerry.

Less than 30 years ago, she was a rabid Republican, the wife of another senator, trashing Ted Kennedy as a "perfect bastard" and the Democratic Party as "putrid."

Last night, she shared the dais with Teddy Boy ? who turns out to be her new husband's biggest (in terms of girth as well as enthusiasm) cheerleader.

When I first reported that Teresa Heinz Kerry was behind the funding of radical causes including Act-Up, Islamist jihadists, anarchists who disrupted the Seattle World Trade Organization meeting and communist front groups, I knew she was wacky.

What shocked me, however, was the fact no one seemed to care that some of those same non-profit groups, funded by Heinz money, were at the forefront of planned demonstrations and disruptions at the Republican National Convention later this summer.

Just imagine if Pat Nixon was directing charity funds toward the demonstrators at the 1968 Democratic Convention in Chicago. Would that be a scandal? Yes, it would. It might have been bigger than Watergate. Yet, Evita Heinz Kerry gets away with it. All she needs to do is plead ignorance to the fact that millions of her directed charity dollars go to a foundation funding such groups and hundreds of others like them.

But all that is in the theoretical realm. We can look at the cold facts of Teresa Heinz Kerry's misguided philanthropy, but what does it really tell us about the person?

I think a much better glimpse into the personality of Evita Heinz Kerry came last weekend.

She gave a speech in Boston to Pennsylvania delegates, urging civility in political discourse. She was reasonable. She was articulate. And she was obviously scripted carefully.

"We need to turn back some of the creeping, un-Pennsylvanian ? and sometimes un-American ? traits that are coming into some of our politics," she said.

Nothing wrong with that. But, a few minutes later, when asked politely by a reporter about use of the term "un-American," Evita blew a gasket.

"I didn't say that," she said. "You're putting words in my mouth. I didn't say that."

But she very clearly did say it ? despite the angry and frequent denials. Like the speech itself, this unbelievable confrontation with Colin McNickle, the editorial page editor of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, was videotaped by WTAE Channel 4 Action News in Pittsburgh.

Repeatedly she insists to McNickle that she did not use the term "un-American." McNickle calmly asks her to explain what she did say, but Mrs. Kerry refused ? at one point telling the journalist to go listen to the tape.

After conferring with Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell and others, Kerry then returned to confront McNickle.

"Are you from the Tribune-Review?" she asked.

"Yes," replies McNickle.

"I thought so," she said. "You said something I didn't say. Now shove it."

Now much of the controversy over this incident has focused on the words "shove it." And that's as it should be. But why so little attention on the brain malfunction that led to it?

She gave a speech. She used a phrase. She was asked about it minutes later by a journalist. She not only denied using it, she insulted and verbally abused the questioner.

Not only that, she went back for seconds ? lunging at the reporter in a way that would be considered threatening had the shoe been on the other foot.

Let me make this simple: This woman is nuts. She's certifiable. And she may be the most influential person in the life of the next president.
 

nageov3t

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30 years ago, I wasn't even born.

if I can go from literally non-existant to being a productive member of society, surely it's not a stretch that someone could go from Republican to Democrat in the same period of time.
 
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Teresa came across too international, too pie in the sky, too self-centered, too Feminist, and frankly too weird.

She's a liability for the Kerry campaign. If they were smart, they never would have let her speak at the convention.

Hence, I hops she stays right out in front and they keep letting her make the headlines.

However, I do believe that she actually believes what she is saying, and I believe in the love that she has for America.

It doesn't take away from the fact that she hardly mentioned her husband, or what his plans are should he be elected.
 

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Originally posted by: Painman
Teresa's her own person, she's got lots of character, she's an immigrant and she's worldly. I think she's cool, I think a lot of women and ethnic voters will take to her and a lot of male WASPs wil recoil from her, but overall I think she's good for the ticket.

I like her, she seems real.Beats some size 2 Aldolpho wearing talking head of a potential first lady.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Painman
Teresa's her own person, she's got lots of character, she's an immigrant and she's worldly. I think she's cool, I think a lot of women and ethnic voters will take to her and a lot of male WASPs wil recoil from her, but overall I think she's good for the ticket.

I like her, she seems real.Beats some size 2 Aldolpho wearing talking head of a potential first lady.

My wife is a non-US citizen who has no knowledge of nor interest in American politics so she's a non-biased observer. She labeled Heinz-Kerry as a phoney snob the first time she heard her speak.
 

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Originally posted by: CADMaster
Teresa came across too international, too pie in the sky, too self-centered, too Feminist, and frankly too weird.

She's a liability for the Kerry campaign. If they were smart, they never would have let her speak at the convention.

Hence, I hops she stays right out in front and they keep letting her make the headlines.

However, I do believe that she actually believes what she is saying, and I believe in the love that she has for America.

It doesn't take away from the fact that she hardly mentioned her husband, or what his plans are should he be elected.

Doesn't bug me a bit that she didn't talk much about her husband. This was all about getting introduced to her.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Painman
Teresa's her own person, she's got lots of character, she's an immigrant and she's worldly. I think she's cool, I think a lot of women and ethnic voters will take to her and a lot of male WASPs wil recoil from her, but overall I think she's good for the ticket.

I like her, she seems real.Beats some size 2 Aldolpho wearing talking head of a potential first lady.

My wife is a non-US citizen who has no knowledge of nor interest in American politics so she's a non-biased observer. She labeled Heinz-Kerry as a phoney snob the first time she heard her speak.
Yeah but your wife is French so what she thinks is of no matter
 

Piano Man

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Shove it!
fvck you!
Niiiiiiiiiiiiice :roll:
It's a Cheney quote, numb nuts!

If you're gonna play, at least keep up with the current events references! :roll:
No, what he said was either "fvck off" or Go fvck yourself"

Get it right.
Thanks!

Go fvck yourself!

LOL!!!
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Painman
Teresa's her own person, she's got lots of character, she's an immigrant and she's worldly. I think she's cool, I think a lot of women and ethnic voters will take to her and a lot of male WASPs wil recoil from her, but overall I think she's good for the ticket.

I like her, she seems real.Beats some size 2 Aldolpho wearing talking head of a potential first lady.

My wife is a non-US citizen who has no knowledge of nor interest in American politics so she's a non-biased observer. She labeled Heinz-Kerry as a phoney snob the first time she heard her speak.
Yeah but your wife is French so what she thinks is of no matter

And who's a better judge of snobbishness than the French?
 
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Originally posted by: Hossenfeffer
Originally posted by: CADMaster
Teresa came across too international, too pie in the sky, too self-centered, too Feminist, and frankly too weird.

She's a liability for the Kerry campaign. If they were smart, they never would have let her speak at the convention.

Hence, I hops she stays right out in front and they keep letting her make the headlines.

However, I do believe that she actually believes what she is saying, and I believe in the love that she has for America.

It doesn't take away from the fact that she hardly mentioned her husband, or what his plans are should he be elected.

Doesn't bug me a bit that she didn't talk much about her husband. This was all about getting introduced to her.

I hope we get to see much more of her. This can only help Bush's re-election hopes.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: CADMaster
Originally posted by: Hossenfeffer
Originally posted by: CADMaster
Teresa came across too international, too pie in the sky, too self-centered, too Feminist, and frankly too weird.

She's a liability for the Kerry campaign. If they were smart, they never would have let her speak at the convention.

Hence, I hops she stays right out in front and they keep letting her make the headlines.

However, I do believe that she actually believes what she is saying, and I believe in the love that she has for America.

It doesn't take away from the fact that she hardly mentioned her husband, or what his plans are should he be elected.

Doesn't bug me a bit that she didn't talk much about her husband. This was all about getting introduced to her.

I hope we get to see much more of her. This can only help Bush's re-election hopes.

Agreed. I don't think that she helped her husband's cause last night.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: CADMaster
Originally posted by: Hossenfeffer
Originally posted by: CADMaster
Teresa came across too international, too pie in the sky, too self-centered, too Feminist, and frankly too weird.

She's a liability for the Kerry campaign. If they were smart, they never would have let her speak at the convention.

Hence, I hops she stays right out in front and they keep letting her make the headlines.

However, I do believe that she actually believes what she is saying, and I believe in the love that she has for America.

It doesn't take away from the fact that she hardly mentioned her husband, or what his plans are should he be elected.

Doesn't bug me a bit that she didn't talk much about her husband. This was all about getting introduced to her.

I hope we get to see much more of her. This can only help Bush's re-election hopes.

Agreed. I don't think that she helped her husbands cause last night.
You mean she didn't change the Republicans view of Kerry? Go figure:roll:
 

Gravity

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She didn't inspire me. I was amazed at her lack of focus and her self-centeredness.
 

fjord

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Nothing pisses-off conservaties more than a woman who dares to attempt substantive discussion.

"If women have to speak at-all, let it be frilly, touchy anectodes of how their husband is so wonderfull"

I predict conservatives will go after her harder than H. Clinton.
 

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Originally posted by: loki8481
30 years ago, I wasn't even born.

if I can go from literally non-existant to being a productive member of society, surely it's not a stretch that someone could go from Republican to Democrat in the same period of time.


not to mention 30 years ago we had rockefeller republicans. now all we have left are the fundamentalists.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: fjord
Nothing pisses-off conservaties more than a woman who dares to attempt substantive discussion.

"If women have to speak at-all, let it be frilly, touchy anectodes of how their husband is so wonderfull"

I predict conservatives will go after her harder than H. Clinton.

Really? I have great admiration for Maggie Thatcher as do most conservatives, I would presume.

She seems to be her own worst enemy, I don't why conservatives need to "go after her".
 
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