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Arsynic

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Originally posted by: daveshel
Just watched Teresa Heinz Kerry at the convention. Very powerful speech, inspiring in a global sort of way. I think she will appeal to a lot of hispanics and other immigrants. But more than that, I think she will energize a lot of women voters by getting more involved with issues than Laura.
All I heard was her horn. She was tooting it alot last night. She's a bright woman, but many weren't impressed.
 

fjord

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Originally posted by: fjord
Nothing pisses-off conservaties more than a woman who dares to attempt substantive discussion.

"If women have to speak at-all, let it be frilly, touchy anectodes of how their husband is so wonderfull"

I predict conservatives will go after her harder than H. Clinton.

Really? I have great admiration for Maggie Thatcher as do most conservatives, I would presume.

She seems to be her own worst enemy, I don't why conservatives need to "go after her".

Conservatives do have that special category, that I call "The Ultra-con Angry-Andro-Femm"

Witness Maggie, Coulter, etc.
 
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: CADMaster
Originally posted by: Hossenfeffer
Originally posted by: CADMaster
Teresa came across too international, too pie in the sky, too self-centered, too Feminist, and frankly too weird.

She's a liability for the Kerry campaign. If they were smart, they never would have let her speak at the convention.

Hence, I hops she stays right out in front and they keep letting her make the headlines.

However, I do believe that she actually believes what she is saying, and I believe in the love that she has for America.

It doesn't take away from the fact that she hardly mentioned her husband, or what his plans are should he be elected.

Doesn't bug me a bit that she didn't talk much about her husband. This was all about getting introduced to her.

I hope we get to see much more of her. This can only help Bush's re-election hopes.

Agreed. I don't think that she helped her husbands cause last night.
You mean she didn't change the Republicans view of Kerry? Go figure:roll:


Probably not, but she probably changed a few minds that were leaning for Kerry.
 

OneOfTheseDays

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naturally men and conservatives especially aren't going to like teresa. She's strong minded, says what she wants, and won't allow herself to be hushed into a corner. if you didn't get it by now, she is mainly there to attract WOMEN voters. I mean women have to choose from airhead Laura Bush or an intelligent and well-rounded Teresa.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
naturally men and conservatives especially aren't going to like teresa. She's strong minded, says what she wants, and won't allow herself to be hushed into a corner. if you didn't get it by now, she is mainly there to attract WOMEN voters. I mean women have to choose from airhead Laura Bush or an intelligent and well-rounded Teresa.

Yup, we red-neck conservatives like our women barefoot and pregnant, lol.

Who said that we don't like her? I personally hope she takes a more active role in the campaign.
 
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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
naturally men and conservatives especially aren't going to like teresa. She's strong minded, says what she wants, and won't allow herself to be hushed into a corner. if you didn't get it by now, she is mainly there to attract WOMEN voters. I mean women have to choose from airhead Laura Bush or an intelligent and well-rounded Teresa.

Yup, we red-neck conservatives like our women barefoot and pregnant, lol.

Who said that we don't like her? I personally hope she takes a more active role in the campaign.


Yah, I want to see her on TV every night!
It would virtually guarantee a Bush victory.
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: CADMaster
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
naturally men and conservatives especially aren't going to like teresa. She's strong minded, says what she wants, and won't allow herself to be hushed into a corner. if you didn't get it by now, she is mainly there to attract WOMEN voters. I mean women have to choose from airhead Laura Bush or an intelligent and well-rounded Teresa.

Yup, we red-neck conservatives like our women barefoot and pregnant, lol.

Who said that we don't like her? I personally hope she takes a more active role in the campaign.


Yah, I want to see her on TV every night!
It would virtually guarantee a Bush victory.
Wow! Led by Ripsnortin and SomeKindaCADguymaster, we already have the thinly disguised misogynist right yip yapping in coyote glee about a woman whose intellect and accomplishments no doubt dwarf those two discount clowns' life long efforts by an embarrassing margin.

Meanwhile, their chosen candidate is a monosyllabic moron who thinks Africa is a country!

Yee-Haw!
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: CADMaster
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
naturally men and conservatives especially aren't going to like teresa. She's strong minded, says what she wants, and won't allow herself to be hushed into a corner. if you didn't get it by now, she is mainly there to attract WOMEN voters. I mean women have to choose from airhead Laura Bush or an intelligent and well-rounded Teresa.

Yup, we red-neck conservatives like our women barefoot and pregnant, lol.

Who said that we don't like her? I personally hope she takes a more active role in the campaign.


Yah, I want to see her on TV every night!
It would virtually guarantee a Bush victory.
Wow! Led by Ripsnortin and SomeKindaCADguymaster, we already have the thinly disguised misogynist right yip yapping in coyote glee about a woman whose intellect and accomplishments no doubt dwarf those two discount clowns' life long efforts by an embarrassing margin.

Meanwhile, their chosen candidate is a monosyllabic moron who thinks Africa is a country!

Yee-Haw!

Africa is not a country, wooo weee, learn somthin' new everyday.

I bow before Teresa's superior intellect and accomplishments. Can we petition the DNC to let her speak again tonight and tomorrow?

I was so enthralled and captivated by her loquaciousness, I could listen to her 24/7.
 

Riprorin

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I was so moved I just had to have a text of the speech:

Text of Teresa Heinz Kerry's speech

July 28, 2004

A text of Teresa Heinz Kerry's speech, as prepared, to be delivered Tuesday night at the Democratic National Convention: Thank you, Christopher. Your father would be proud of you and your brothers. I love you and all our family.

My name is Teresa Heinz Kerry. And by now I hope it will come as no surprise to anyone that I have something to say. And tonight, as I have done throughout this campaign I would like to speak to you from my heart.

Y a todos los Hispanos, los Latinos; a tous les Americains, Francais et Canadiens; a tutti Italiani; a toda a familia Portugesa e Brazileria; to all my continental African family living in this country, and to all new Americans: I invite you to join our conversation, and together with us work towards the noblest purpose of all: a free, good, and democratic society.

I am grateful for the opportunity to stand before you and say a few words about my husband, John Kerry, and why I firmly believe he should be the next president of the United States.

This is such a powerful moment for me. Like many other Americans, like many of you, and like even more of your parents and grandparents, I was not born in this country. As you have seen, I grew up in East Africa, in Mozambique, in a land that was then under a dictatorship.

My father, a wonderful, caring man who practiced medicine for 43 years, and taught me how to understand disease and wellness, only got the right to vote for the first time when he was 71 years old. That's what happens in dictatorships.

As a young woman, I attended Witwatersrand University in Johannesburg, South Africa, which was then not segregated. But I witnessed the weight of apartheid everywhere around me. And so, with my fellow students we marched against its extension into higher education. This was the late 50s, the dawn of the civil rights marches in America.

As history records, our efforts in South Africa failed and the Higher Education Apartheid Act was passed. Apartheid tightened its ugly grip, the Sharpsville riots followed, and a short while later Nelson Mandela was arrested and sent to Robin Island.

I learned something then, and I believe it still. There is a value in taking a stand whether or not anyone may be noticing and whether or not it is a risky thing to do. And if even those who are in danger can raise their lonely voices, isn't more required of all of us, in this land where liberty had her birth?

I have a very personal feeling about how special America is, and I know how precious freedom is. It is a sacred gift, sanctified by those who have lived it and those who have died defending it. My right to speak my mind, to have a voice, to be what some have called "opinionated," is a right I deeply and profoundly cherish. My only hope is that, one day soon, women -- who have all earned the right to their opinions -- instead of being labeled opinionated, will be called smart or well-informed, just as men are.

Tonight I want to remember my mother's warmth, generosity, wisdom, and hopefulness, and thank her for all the sacrifices she made on our behalf, like so many other mothers.

This evening, I want to acknowledge and honor the women of this world, whose wise voices for much too long have been excluded and discounted. It is time for the world to hear women's voices, in full and at last.

In the past year, I have been privileged to meet with Americans all across this land. They voiced many different concerns, but one they all seemed to share was about America's role in the world -- what we want this great country of ours to stand for.

To me, one of the best faces America has ever projected is the face of a Peace Corps volunteer. That face symbolizes this country: young, curious, brimming with idealism and hope -- and a real, honest compassion. Those young people convey an idea of America that is all about -- heart and creativity, generosity and confidence, a practical, can-do sense and a big, big smile.

For many generations of people around the globe, that is what America has represented. A symbol of hope, a beacon brightly lit by the optimism of its people -- people coming from all over the world. Americans believed they could know all there is to know, build all there is to build, break down any barrier, tear down any wall. We sent men to the moon, and when that was not far enough, we sent Galileo to Jupiter, we sent Cassini to Saturn, and Hubble to touch the very edges of the universe at the very dawn of time. Americans showed the world what can happen when people believe in amazing possibilities.

And, that, for me, is the spirit of America -- the America you and I are working for in this election. It is the America that people all across this nation want to restore -- from Iowa to California, from Florida to Michigan, from Washington State to my home state of Pennsylvania.

It is the America the world wants to see, shining, hopeful, and bright once again. And that is the America that my husband John Kerry wants to lead.

John believes in a bright future. He believes we can, and we will, invent the technologies, new materials, and conservation methods of the future. He believes that alternative fuels will guarantee that not only will no American boy or girl go to war because of our dependence on foreign oil, but also that our economy will forever become independent of this need.

We can, and we will, create good, competitive, and sustainable jobs while still protecting the air we breathe, the water we drink, and the health of our children, because good environmental policy is good economics.

John believes that we can, and we will, give every family and every child access to affordable health care, a good education, and the tools to become self-reliant.

John Kerry believes we must, and we should, recognize the immense value of the caregivers in our country -- those women and men who nurture and care for children, for elderly parents, for family members in need. These are the people who build and support our most valuable assets -- our families. Isn't it time we began working to give parents more opportunity to be with their children, and to afford to have a family life?

With John Kerry as president, we can, and we will, protect our nation's security without sacrificing our civil liberties. In short, John believes we can, and we must, lead in the world -- as America, unique among nations, always should -- by showing the face, not of our fears, but of our hopes.

John is a fighter. He earned his medals the old-fashioned way, by putting his life on the line for his country. No one will defend this nation more vigorously than he will -- and he will always be first in the line of fire.

But he also knows the importance of getting it right. For him, the names of too many friends inscribed in the cold stone of the Vietnam Memorial testify to the awful toll exacted by leaders who mistake stubbornness for strength.

That is why, as president, my husband will not fear disagreement or dissent. He believes that our voices -- yours and mine -- must be the voices of freedom. And if we do not speak, neither does she.

In America, the true patriots are those who dare speak truth to power. The truth we must speak now is that America has responsibilities that it is time for us to accept again.

With John Kerry as president, global climate change and other threats to the health of our planet will begin to be reversed. With John Kerry as president, the alliances that bind the community of nations and that truly make our country and the world a safer place, will be strengthened once more.

The Americans John and I have met in the course of this campaign all want America to provide hopeful leadership again. They want America to return to its moral bearings. It is not a moralistic America they seek, but a moral nation that understands and willingly shoulders its obligations; a moral nation that rejects thoughtless and greedy choices in favor of thoughtful and generous actions; a moral nation that leads through the power of its ideas and the power of its example.

We can and we should join together to make the most of this great gift we have been given, this gift of freedom, this gift of America. In his first inaugural, speaking to a nation on the eve of war, Abraham Lincoln said, "We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained, it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battlefield and patriot grave, to every living heart and hearthstone, all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature."

Today, the better angels of our nature are just waiting to be summoned. We only require a leader who is willing to call on them, a leader willing to draw again on the mystic chords of our national memory and remind us of all that we, as a people, everyday leaders, can do; of all that we as a nation stand for and of all the immense possibility that still lies ahead.

I think I've found just the guy. I'm married to him. John Kerry will give us back our faith in America. He will restore our faith in ourselves and in the sense of limitless opportunity that has always been America's gift to the world. Together we will lift everyone up. We have to. It's possible. And you know what? It's the American thing to do. Goodnight and God bless.
 

Siddhartha

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Is this focusing on Ms Heinz Kerry another effort to divert attention away the issues of the election?

What is more important?
Ms Heinz Kerry
or
The Iraqi war
The economy
George Bush being loose with the separation of church and state.
 

0roo0roo

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well others like obama addressed issues like those in their speeches. as for the last one, obama said something to the effect that kerry wouldn't use faith to divide us.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Is this focusing on Ms Heinz Kerry another effort to divert attention away the issues of the election?

What is more important?
Ms Heinz Kerry
or
The Iraqi war
The economy
George Bush being loose with the separation of church and state.

Gee, Ms. Heinz-Kerry had a prime time slot and she didn't mention any of those imporatant topics. She did talk about what is apparently important to her - Teresa Heinz-Kerry.
 

element

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
naturally men and conservatives especially aren't going to like teresa. She's strong minded, says what she wants, and won't allow herself to be hushed into a corner. if you didn't get it by now, she is mainly there to attract WOMEN voters. I mean women have to choose from airhead Laura Bush or an intelligent and well-rounded Teresa.

Unfortunately, they will choose airhead all the way. Some people are afraid of intelligent people. They are afraid they will be outwitted, and left in the dust. They are afraid they won't be able to compete. They are afraid of the unknown. Of what the intelligent person "is up to".

they don't realize that we are in this together. That we are supposed to act like we're in the United States not the Divided States of America. They'd rather play partisan politics, chase after a stained dress than terrorists. They sent the FBI after Clinton while India and Pakistan aquired nucular technology, and while Osama Bin Laden and Saddam geared up to oppose the U.S., it's allies and even their own people.

And then they had the audacity to stick a pres in office that can't even pronounce the word, hence my creative spelling.
 

villager

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Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Is this focusing on Ms Heinz Kerry another effort to divert attention away the issues of the election?

What is more important?
Ms Heinz Kerry
or
The Iraqi war
The economy
George Bush being loose with the separation of church and state.

According to the mass media what Ms Kerry said to a faux reporter and is much more important than the 9/11 commission.
 

OneOfTheseDays

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unfortunately middle America controls who becomes president, really a shame that we have our most ignorant populus playing the deciding factor in nearly all elections.
 

Pers

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Originally posted by: CADMaster
Originally posted by: Hossenfeffer
Originally posted by: CADMaster
Teresa came across too international, too pie in the sky, too self-centered, too Feminist, and frankly too weird.

She's a liability for the Kerry campaign. If they were smart, they never would have let her speak at the convention.

Hence, I hops she stays right out in front and they keep letting her make the headlines.

However, I do believe that she actually believes what she is saying, and I believe in the love that she has for America.

It doesn't take away from the fact that she hardly mentioned her husband, or what his plans are should he be elected.

Doesn't bug me a bit that she didn't talk much about her husband. This was all about getting introduced to her.

I hope we get to see much more of her. This can only help Bush's re-election hopes.

lol...you keep telling yourself that buddy. Unlike most Republicans, the rest of the America doesn't fear intelligent females. It must make you cringe to think that a foreign female could achieve something in this society that was sculpted soley for a WASP? And all along you republicans boast that this is a land of opportunity... failing to mention that you only wish success upon the fellow re'necks.
 

Pers

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: CADMaster
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
naturally men and conservatives especially aren't going to like teresa. She's strong minded, says what she wants, and won't allow herself to be hushed into a corner. if you didn't get it by now, she is mainly there to attract WOMEN voters. I mean women have to choose from airhead Laura Bush or an intelligent and well-rounded Teresa.

Yup, we red-neck conservatives like our women barefoot and pregnant, lol.

Who said that we don't like her? I personally hope she takes a more active role in the campaign.


Yah, I want to see her on TV every night!
It would virtually guarantee a Bush victory.
Wow! Led by Ripsnortin and SomeKindaCADguymaster, we already have the thinly disguised misogynist right yip yapping in coyote glee about a woman whose intellect and accomplishments no doubt dwarf those two discount clowns' life long efforts by an embarrassing margin.

Meanwhile, their chosen candidate is a monosyllabic moron who thinks Africa is a country!

Yee-Haw!

wow you're a fvcking genius.
 
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