Terminator 4nnihilation. Spoiled.

[slag]

Originally posted by: peritusONE
I just got back from seeing it tonight. I think everyone, as usual, needs to quit taking movies so personally. It was a great action flick, lots of explosions and great sound effects. Yes, the story needed a lot of work, and some things were ignorant. **SPOILER** Like when the doctor on the screen sat there and explained everything to Marcus. It was completely pointless, and was obvious the only way the simple minded writers could figure out to explain what was going on.

But whatever, I still enjoyed the movie. Hopefully they'll do right by the blu-ray transfer, I'm looking forward to turning this up on my home theater.

Ditto.. excellent summer action flick.

 

[mAdMaLuDaWg]

Just came back and I thought it was pretty decent. Seeing Ahhhnold was a pleasant surprise

 

[xanis]

Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Just came back and I thought it was pretty decent. Seeing Ahhhnold was a pleasant surprise

Arnold was CG. FAIL.

 

[mAdMaLuDaWg]

Originally posted by: Xanis

Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Just came back and I thought it was pretty decent. Seeing Ahhhnold was a pleasant surprise

Arnold was CG. FAIL.

Duh.. it was still unexpected.

 

[imported_Imp]

Originally posted by: Xanis

Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Just came back and I thought it was pretty decent. Seeing Ahhhnold was a pleasant surprise

Arnold was CG. FAIL.

They used his "fancier" Terminator 1 appearance though. The CG face looked very well done I must say.

 

[ScottyB]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
Summary : Entertaining dumb action movie?

Minus the entertaining part. It is basically a road chase scene combined with a military prison break scene followed by a fortress scene.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
I thought it was a good movie.

Certainly had some plot holes, but they were no where nearly as bad as Star Trek and its messy plot.

Did the scene with Marcus and the doctor remind anyone of the scene with Neo and the architect in the 2nd Matrix film? It is the whole "let me explain things to the idiots in the audience" speech. Would have been better for Marcus to learn his fate via searching the computer in the same way he learned other stuff. Learns who he is and what his job was, but rejects that idea and goes off to save Conner.

I do agree with heart part at the end was stupid. Save Conner and keep Marcus around for another film, I liked his character. Why kill him?? Other than to offer him a second chance etc etc.

As soon as they fucking showed the "Skynet HQ" I immediately picked up on the fact that the whole thing had turned into a cheesy rip off of The Matrix Revolutions. Letting "The Chosen One" right through your doors, to do whatever he wants, under the impression that YOU'RE going to be the one to end it, when it all backfires and he does what he wants. And the scene with Marcus smashing the screen with the Dr. on it reminded me of Resident Evil for some reason.

Terminator 3 was a fucking better movie, and that's not saying much. At least that one had a clear plot from the get go, stop Judgment Day. This movie was three horribly welded together story lines, with a bunch of T1/T2 references as a fan service. And a gigantic pile of shit thrown towards continuity.

 

[Jinny]

this franchise is too convoluted for me..

john connor only existed because he in the future sent reece back to protect his mom.

so the whole time before he sent reece back, how did he exist?


either i'm confused or none of it makes sense.

 

[dr150]

Originally posted by: loki8481
I liked it.

but...

Christian Bale kinda sucked. would have been a lot better without Batman pretending to be John Connor.

The Batman voice cracked me up.

 

[Agentbolt]

The third movie was better than this one. ATOT is going to have to take a deep breath at some point and accept the fact that most people liked T3.

This movie wasn't bad, however. My biggest gripe is how McG, Bale, etc all droned on and on about how much they wanted to respect the mythology of the series, and wanted to be "plugged in" to the overarching storyline or whatever. The Terminator series has stopped even attempting to avoid contradicting itself. There is absolutely ZERO continuity anymore.

 

[I Saw OJ]

Originally posted by: cobalt
Just got back, man I wanted this movie to be good I really did. First half was O.K then when they tried explaining details of the plot and the lame cyborg tie was just garbage. Movie would of been better if it had absolutely no plot and was just straight scenes of action... Ending was probably the worst part, totally ruined anything good about it.

I agree 100%

It was good at the start then completely fell apart at the end with sneaking into skynet's base and the stupid heart transplant.

 

[zainali]

the whole love story between the good looking chick and marcus was completely retarted.

 

[lokiju]

OK, just saw it this morning and after reading how bad the reviews were, that it was directed by McG, threads like this, etc, etc, etc. I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed the movie.

WTF is everyone looking for? It's a movie about robots FFS! Do you want some deep movie that also has big explosions and amazing special effects?

It's no T2, but there will never be another T2, it was of a new breed of movies and can't be replicated. It was hands down better than T3 though.

My biggest surprise of the movie was 1: how little of a role Christan Bale actually had in the movie and 2: how much of a role the new comer guy did that played Marcus did have, which IMO did a terrific job in this movie for being someone I've never seen or heard of before.

I'll gladly go see follow ups to this movie.

I swear if it's not Oscar worthy while still being a action flick with top notch acting and special effects, all stitched together then everyone wants to rip the shit out of it all the time. It seems now days, it's like the new "cool" to hate on anything.

 

[imported_Imp]

Originally posted by: lokiju
OK, just saw it this morning and after reading how bad the reviews were, that it was directed by McG, threads like this, etc, etc, etc. I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed the movie.

WTF is everyone looking for? It's a movie about robots FFS! Do you want some deep movie that also has big explosions and amazing special effects?

It's no T2, but there will never be another T2, it was of a new breed of movies and can't be replicated. It was hands down better than T3 though.

My biggest surprise of the movie was 1: how little of a role Christan Bale actually had in the movie and 2: how much of a role the new comer guy did that played Marcus did have, which IMO did a terrific job in this movie for being someone I've never seen or heard of before.

I'll gladly go see follow ups to this movie.

I swear if it's not Oscar worthy while still being a action flick with top notch acting and special effects, all stitched together then everyone wants to rip the shit out of it all the time. It seems now days, it's like the new "cool" to hate on anything.

That was a huge surprise to me too. It's almost as if they were forced to use John, and they couldn't decide whether to make him the centrepiece or a side story.

 

[dr150]

Originally posted by: Jinny
this franchise is too convoluted for me..

john connor only existed because he in the future sent reece back to protect his mom.

so the whole time before he sent reece back, how did he exist?


either i'm confused or none of it makes sense.

My wife said the same thing.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: lokiju
OK, just saw it this morning and after reading how bad the reviews were, that it was directed by McG, threads like this, etc, etc, etc. I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed the movie.

WTF is everyone looking for? It's a movie about robots FFS! Do you want some deep movie that also has big explosions and amazing special effects?

It's no T2, but there will never be another T2, it was of a new breed of movies and can't be replicated. It was hands down better than T3 though.

My biggest surprise of the movie was 1: how little of a role Christan Bale actually had in the movie and 2: how much of a role the new comer guy did that played Marcus did have, which IMO did a terrific job in this movie for being someone I've never seen or heard of before.

I'll gladly go see follow ups to this movie.

I swear if it's not Oscar worthy while still being a action flick with top notch acting and special effects, all stitched together then everyone wants to rip the shit out of it all the time. It seems now days, it's like the new "cool" to hate on anything.

I agree with pretty much everything. I wasn't expecting this to be too great, but anyone who says this was worse then T3 is insane. Did you guys even watch the same movie? Look, I think watching Arnold body slam a robot bitch into a urinal is funny too, but that movie was just Arnold hamming it up for the camera for two hours. (Talk to the hand? Seriously? Wasn't that a joke like 20 years ago or something?) T3 could only be considered good if you think it was actually suppose to be a comedy. T3 was all the retarded parts of T2 that you didn't really notice multiplied by 1000.

T4 had some glaring plot holes and Bale actually kind of sucked in it, (Also really surprised that the movie ended up not really being about him) but it had its redeeming qualities. Fun action, lots of nods to the originals, a surprisingly good supporting cast (Kyle Reese seemed pretty dead on as a young Michael Bien) and at least an interesting idea for a main plot. I only came to see cool robots blow shit up and I feel like I got more then that.

The guy who played Marcus was ok...but why was his Australian/British Accent always allowed to spill through all the time? I was also kind of annoyed that the T-800 was portrayed as absorbing tons of grenade blasts with no actual damage yet Kyle Reese blows one in half with a pipe bomb filled with shit that he bought at a local supermarket in 1980. And then it gets molten steel dumped on it and even that doesn't kill it? Hell, that even hosed the T-1000. Yet, at the same time its suddenly possible for puny ass John to block its punches without getting his arm knocked off?

Still, if I hadn't been looking for it (for obvious reasons) I don't think I could have even told it was a CG Arnold face. Nice job on that.

That heart thing at the end was really retarded though.

 

[UsandThem]

I thought the movie was pretty decent and was worth the ticket price. I liked it.

My only question is this: John Conner seemed surprised that Marcus was a robot with skin, and had to go listen to his mother's tapes, however wouldn't he already have known what model of terminators would come (they were sent back to kill him in the past)? I mean he seen liquid guy and Arnold in T2 and the chick in T3. He even was shocked seeing the T-800 plans at the beginning of the movie.

That was the biggest plot hole of the movie for me.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: UsandThem
I thought the movie was pretty decent and was worth the ticket price. I liked it.

My only question is this: John Conner seemed surprised that Marcus was a robot with skin, and had to go listen to his mother's tapes, however wouldn't he already have known what model of terminators would come (they were sent back to kill him in the past)? I mean he seen liquid guy and Arnold in T2 and the chick in T3. He even was shocked seeing the T-800 plans at the beginning of the movie.

That was the biggest plot hole of the movie for me.

It wasn't just the skin. It was that he was half human and half robot. The other Terminators completely acknowledged they were machines. Bur Marcus believd 100% he was human, and had organs to prove it, something Conner had never seen before.

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: dr150

Originally posted by: Jinny
this franchise is too convoluted for me..

john connor only existed because he in the future sent reece back to protect his mom.

so the whole time before he sent reece back, how did he exist?

either i'm confused or none of it makes sense.

My wife said the same thing.

Take a deep breath, then read this:

http://www.thebadandugly.com/2...ss-multiple-timelines/

Still hard to follow if you aren't in the right mindset, some people will never understand it at all.

 

[Passions]

Anyone else expect John Conner to extend his batcape and swoop down when he was sitting on the Golden Gate bridge?

Also, how does a metal bomb cling to Marcus' leg, explode, but Marcus still has both legs to run on?

 

[spikespiegal]

Haven't seen T4, nor am really interested in seeing.

However, the OP's complaints don't make the film sound any more retarded and corny than Star Trek was.

 

[Udgnim]

Originally posted by: dr150

Originally posted by: Jinny
this franchise is too convoluted for me..

john connor only existed because he in the future sent reece back to protect his mom.

so the whole time before he sent reece back, how did he exist?


either i'm confused or none of it makes sense.

My wife said the same thing.

it was obvious Sarah Connor was a slut by sexing up Reece

so, Reece ends up dieing and Sarah Connor finds out she's preggo. since Reece is dead, there's no way to perform a paternity test, and rather than tell her son she doesn't know who his father is, she says it's Reece to set John up to become the leader of the human resistance

plot hole solved!

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Udgnim

Originally posted by: dr150

Originally posted by: Jinny
this franchise is too convoluted for me..

john connor only existed because he in the future sent reece back to protect his mom.

so the whole time before he sent reece back, how did he exist?


either i'm confused or none of it makes sense.

My wife said the same thing.

it was obvious Sarah Connor was a slut by sexing up Reece

so, Reece ends up dieing and Sarah Connor finds out she's preggo. since Reece is dead, there's no way to perform a paternity test, and rather than tell her son she doesn't know who his father is, she says it's Reece to set John up to become the leader of the human resistance

plot hole solved!

A++, genius.

 

[Regs]

After the 2nd or 3rd one, some hot shot producer buys out the rights, hires a cheap screne writer and director, and just expects a ton of income from the names. I wouldnt of been surprised Christian Bale got the part because Kenau Reeves turned it down.

 

[SKORPI0]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Udgnim

Originally posted by: dr150

Originally posted by: Jinny
this franchise is too convoluted for me..

john connor only existed because he in the future sent reece back to protect his mom.

so the whole time before he sent reece back, how did he exist?


either i'm confused or none of it makes sense.

My wife said the same thing.

it was obvious Sarah Connor was a slut by sexing up Reece

so, Reece ends up dieing and Sarah Connor finds out she's preggo. since Reece is dead, there's no way to perform a paternity test, and rather than tell her son she doesn't know who his father is, she says it's Reece to set John up to become the leader of the human resistance

plot hole solved!

A++, genius.

Meh, my own guess is the real reason the "Arnold" Terminator was after Sarah Connor was not to kill her, but to impregnate her. So in the end when John Connor meets the "Arnold" Terminator he tell him in his Austrian accent "John, I am your father" (like when Darth Vader tells Luke Skywalker).