Terri Schiavo

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phillyTIM

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Let Jeb Bush and the Florida Government attempt to circumvent the high Courts, and watch them bear the repercussions that will certainly kill their careers as soon as election time comes up.

they just don't get that the overwhelming majority of the Public respect the sanctity of marriage and Terri's request to not be kept alive by artificial means when she is a vegetable.

let jeb do something stupid to further scar his family's already scorned name of bad reputations.
 

Tab

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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Even if she CAN think clearly, I'm sure she is miserable as hell and wishes she could die because of the fact shes a vegetable!
This is the single biggest misconception I see on this forum. People supporting the removal of the feeding tube seem to do so because they themselves would not want to live under similar circumstances. THIS IS NOT TRUE FOR EVERYONE. Approximately 40,000 people are currently in similar states in the US alone. Many of them choose to persist in these states as declared by their living wills. I find it ironic that the liberals tend to be the ones most often saying that no person would choose to persist under such conditions, when they claim to be champions of freedom of choice. This choice is one choice that should strictly be left up to the patient and/or the patient's guardian, preferrably as selected by the patient.

Simaller states? What the hell? A Brain dead Person and is NOT a person. If you've got a syndrome such as this, I'd have no problem pulling the plug on every damn one of them!

 

catnap1972

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Originally posted by: phillyTIM
Let Jeb Bush and the Florida Government attempt to circumvent the high Courts, and watch them bear the repercussions that will certainly kill their careers as soon as election time comes up.

they just don't get that the overwhelming majority of the Public respect the sanctity of marriage and Terri's request to not be kept alive by artificial means when she is a vegetable.

let jeb do something stupid to further scar his family's already scorned name of bad reputations.

There's rumblings that Jebby and his goons may be crazy enough to try to take custody by force (we already know that many of the hateradio crackpots are all for it)

Better get that popcorn ready!
 

mwmorph

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Don't you people get it? IT has NO EEG function, no brain left. IT is no longer a HUMAN, IT will never come out of this coma. No point letting IT live. Besides, IT cannot feel or think so just letting it starve isn't inhumane because it is not living in any wordly sense. IT is basically a machine like your computer but without a person at the controls. If i just pulled the plug on my pc, would anyone complain?
 

Riprorin

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There's no "proof" of anything from the EEG.

Dr. Hammesfahr, whose field is neurology, explained that an EEG (electro-encephalograph reading) test which did not show much brain activity was BOGUS! because it was done after Terri had been transported to a facility for the testing and Terri had been restless at the time, moving around quite a bit. Muscular movement during an EEG produces readings on the EEG which must be filtered out. Dr. Hammesfahr explained that by "filtering out" the EEG activity Terri had due to the muscular movements, those filtering that brain activity out had also filtered out Terri's brain activity. In other words, the EEG done was worthless because it was not properly done and several doctors have agreed with that.

Link
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
There's "proof" of anything from the EEG.

Dr. Hammesfahr, whose field is neurology, explained that an EEG (electro-encephalograph reading) test which did not show much brain activity was BOGUS! because it was done after Terri had been transported to a facility for the testing and Terri had been restless at the time, moving around quite a bit. Muscular movement during an EEG produces readings on the EEG which must be filtered out. Dr. Hammesfahr explained that by "filtering out" the EEG activity Terri had due to the muscular movements, those filtering that brain activity out had also filtered out Terri's brain activity. In other words, the EEG done was worthless because it was not properly done and several doctors have agreed with that.

Link


RIP, it has been pointed out to you he is a QUACK and a LIAR who can only get his work published in the National Enquirer.

Consider the impressive Hammesfahr, the brilliant Nobel Prize nominee. Three years ago, David Sommer of the St. Petersburg Times reported that Hammesfahr ?advertises himself as a nominee for a Nobel Prize based on a letter his congressman wrote to the Nobel committee.? Yes, Hammesfahr was ?nominated? for the Nobel Prize by his Republican congressman, Peter Bilirakis, back in 1999! And uh-oh! In 2003, William Levesque of the St. Peterburg Times described more of Hammesfahr?s brilliance:

LEVESQUE (10/25/03): In a 2002 order by Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George Greer ruling that Mrs. Schiavo could not recover, Greer labeled Hammesfahr a "self-promoter."
The judge noted that Hammesfahr testified that he had treated patients worse off than Mrs. Schiavo yet "offered no names, no case studies, no videos and no test results to support his claim."

He is a snake oil salesman and you are one of his customers. :roll:

Sorry RIP, you loose again.

 

Tab

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Tab, your comments show your obvious ignorance of the reality of Terri's circumstance. You say the president should start "respecting the establishment of marriage." Do you think Michael Schiavo is respecting his marriage to Terri? When he was testifying in the malpractice suit in which he was awarded more than $2 million, he said he wanted to care for Terri for the rest of her life. Then, after the money was spent, he suddenly remembered that she had mentioned to him once during a movie she would not want to live this way. Furthermore, he is shacked up with another woman and has two children with her. Yet he continues to have the final say in Terri's being starved to death? Did you know, also, that Michael commanded that Terri be in a room with no windows, have access to almost no visitors, and have no therapy whatsoever? A nurse claimed in a sworn affidavit that she had been giving Terri liquids by mouth, and Michael "the loving husband" Schiavo demanded that the nurse stop. It absolutely baffles me that Michael, this piece of human garbage, has the final say as to Terri's fate. I wonder what Michael would think if he were locked in a dark room with no visitors and deprived of food or water until he died.

This was posted on In-Forum.com.... If anyone wants to destroy this idiot, help is appricated
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Typical smear tactics.

C..V.

Please tell me you did not just reference THAT site for his "credentials"! LOLOLOL

That is the funniest thing I have ever seen RIP.

What that supposed to be some sort of proof?

Love how he STILL, even in that hack "resume" of his on that SANCTIONED site, he STILL is not published in any Major Medical Journals. Hell, not even in NON Major Medical Journals. He published his work ON THAT WEBSITE RIP. Hardly somewhere the REAL doctors go when looking for information! LMAO

MedForum's Lifelines is where the doctors in the know go!

Medforum, the oldest peer-reviewed internet based medical journal! That is what they call themselves. Some proof!

Please go Google some more! This is fun!

EDIT: Not to mention that doing a quick DNS search for the website you linked, www.medfourms.com just so happens to reside at the same address as his "practice'? How interesting indeed. :roll:

DNS for the Site you linked

YOUR LINK CHECK THE VERY VERY SIMILAR ADDRESS
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Typical smear tactics.

C..V.


Um, Rip? That's a pretty crappy C.V. Everything is 1998 or earlier...long time ago!

There's probably an up to date one around somewhere. This is just one I found doing a quick search.
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Typical smear tactics.

C..V.


Um, Rip? That's a pretty crappy C.V. Everything is 1998 or earlier...long time ago!

There's probably an up to date one around somewhere. This is just one I found doing a quick search.

RIP, look 2 posts up. The one you linked is fine. It is FROM HIS OWN WEBSITE. The domain www.medforums.com was registered in 1995. The stupid as$ forgot to hide his trail a little better because that is also the address that he says his practice is at!

Funny how he owns the site that "publishes" his work!

Give it up RIP, you are chasing your tail with this guy.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Typical smear tactics.

C..V.

Please tell me you did not just reference THAT site for his "credentials"! LOLOLOL

That is the funniest thing I have ever seen RIP.

What that supposed to be some sort of proof?

Love how he STILL, even in that hack "resume" of his on that SANCTIONED site, he STILL is not published in any Major Medical Journals. Hell, not even in NON Major Medical Journals. He published his work ON THAT WEBSITE RIP. Hardly somewhere the REAL doctors go when looking for information! LMAO

MedForum's Lifelines is where the doctors in the know go!

Medforum, the oldest peer-reviewed internet based medical journal! That is what they call themselves. Some proof!

Please go Google some more! This is fun!

EDIT: Not to mention that doing a quick DNS search for the website you linked, www.medfourms.com just so happens to reside at the same address as his "practice'? How interesting indeed. :roll:

DNS for the Site you linked

YOUR LINK CHECK THE VERY VERY SIMILAR ADDRESS

This is your proof that he a quack?

Go back to the drawing board.
 

umbrella39

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Typical smear tactics.

C..V.

Please tell me you did not just reference THAT site for his "credentials"! LOLOLOL

That is the funniest thing I have ever seen RIP.

What that supposed to be some sort of proof?

Love how he STILL, even in that hack "resume" of his on that SANCTIONED site, he STILL is not published in any Major Medical Journals. Hell, not even in NON Major Medical Journals. He published his work ON THAT WEBSITE RIP. Hardly somewhere the REAL doctors go when looking for information! LMAO

MedForum's Lifelines is where the doctors in the know go!

Medforum, the oldest peer-reviewed internet based medical journal! That is what they call themselves. Some proof!

Please go Google some more! This is fun!

EDIT: Not to mention that doing a quick DNS search for the website you linked, www.medfourms.com just so happens to reside at the same address as his "practice'? How interesting indeed. :roll:

DNS for the Site you linked

YOUR LINK CHECK THE VERY VERY SIMILAR ADDRESS

This is your proof that he a quack?

Go back to the drawing board.

LOLOLOLOL Didn't surprise me that you would say that. You are nothing if not consistant.

HA HA HA HA

Yep, I prove that the site you linked is OWNED by the guy and you still tell me I need to go back to the drawing board.

I wonder why he needs a fake Medical Forum that he owns to publish his findings?
 

DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
This is your proof that he a quack?

Go back to the drawing board.
Please, this doctor's credentials have been shown pretty conclusively to be questionable at best:

1. He misrepresents a Congressman's letter as being a "Nobel Prize nomination" knowing full well that letter is as meaningless as if I wrote it.
2. He claims his therapy can effect miraculous cures, but can offer no proof.
3. He apparently can't get his research published in a reputable medical journal so starts his own website to publish his papers. I could do that too, and I'm a software developer.

This particular doctor does not seem well-qualified to determine the physical condition of Terri Schiavo, regardless of what you think that condition to be. If the Supreme Court does decide this case requires a fresh review, this man is the last doctor you should want to be involved with that review if you really care about an accurate diagnosis.
 

umbrella39

Lifer
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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Originally posted by: Riprorin
This is your proof that he a quack?

Go back to the drawing board.
Please, this doctor's credentials have been shown pretty conclusively to be questionable at best:

1. He misrepresents a Congressman's letter as being a "Nobel Prize nomination" knowing full well that letter is as meaningless as if I wrote it.
2. He claims his therapy can effect miraculous cures, but can offer no proof.
3. He apparently can't get his research published in a reputable medical journal so starts his own website to publish his papers. I could do that too, and I'm a software developer.

This particular doctor does not seem well-qualified to determine the physical condition of Terri Schiavo, regardless of what you think that condition to be. If the Supreme Court does decide this case requires a fresh review, this man is the last doctor you should want to be involved with that review if you really care about an accurate diagnosis.

I would LOVE to see them subpoena the great doctor to get his sworn testimony about his credentials. Melikes watching people perjure themselves
 

Riprorin

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Here's a nurses testimony. I'm looking forward to hearing the smear.

Affidavit of CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N. (HT: Sounding the Trumpet)

Terri?s medical condition was systematically distorted and misrepresented. When I worked with her, she was alert and oriented. Terri spoke on a regular basis while in my presence, saying such things as "mommy," and "elp me." "Help me" was, in fact, one of her most frequent utterances. I heard her say it hundreds of times. Terri would try to say the word "pain" when she was in discomfort, but it came out more like "pay." She didn?t say the "n" sound very well. During her menses she would indicate her discomfort by saying "pay" and moving her arms toward her lower abdominal area. Other ways that she would indicate that she was in pain included pursing her lips, grimacing, thrashing in bed, curling her toes or moving her legs around. She would let you know when she had a bowel movement by flipping up the covers and pulling on her diaper.

[snip]

Throughout my time at Palm Gardens, Michael Schiavo was focused on Terri?s death. Michael would say "When is she going to die?," "Has she died yet?" and "When is that bitch gonna die?"

[snip]

When Michael visited Terri, he always came alone and always had the door closed and locked while he was with Terri. He would typically be there about twenty minutes or so. When he left Terri would would be trembling, crying hysterically, and would be very pale and have cold sweats.

Link

After Michael's visits, Iyer stated that Terri, at times, became symptomatic for hypoglycemia (low blood sugar). Iyer said she found an unexplainable bottle of fast acting insulin concealed in Terri's wastebasket that she speculates could have been used to induce the condition. She filed a police report but heard nothing further regarding the incident. Subsequently she received death threats she believes were related to notifying the authorities and was laterreleased from her position as a caregiver because of her actions in support of Terri.

I've heard her say the exact same things in interivews, but here's a link:

Link


From the same link:

The nurses, including Iyer, interacted with Terri and daily
witnessed her respond, laugh, and make requests. ?We had her at the
front of the nurse?s station? everyone loved Terri,? Iyer said.

When asked about the accuracy of the videos available on the internet Iyer said they were realistic but failed to capture Terri?s personality and, if anything, did not represent the extent of Terri?s ability to respond and communicate.

Iyer witnessed Terri consuming pudding and milkshakes every night and has previously testified that she fed Terri Jello. She witnessed Terri responding to her name, following others with her eyes and head and even moving her body with purpose.

If she dies, she'll have been murdered by the judicial system.

 
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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Riprorin
There's "proof" of anything from the EEG.

Dr. Hammesfahr, whose field is neurology, explained that an EEG (electro-encephalograph reading) test which did not show much brain activity was BOGUS! because it was done after Terri had been transported to a facility for the testing and Terri had been restless at the time, moving around quite a bit. Muscular movement during an EEG produces readings on the EEG which must be filtered out. Dr. Hammesfahr explained that by "filtering out" the EEG activity Terri had due to the muscular movements, those filtering that brain activity out had also filtered out Terri's brain activity. In other words, the EEG done was worthless because it was not properly done and several doctors have agreed with that.

Link


RIP, it has been pointed out to you he is a QUACK and a LIAR who can only get his work published in the National Enquirer.

Consider the impressive Hammesfahr, the brilliant Nobel Prize nominee. Three years ago, David Sommer of the St. Petersburg Times reported that Hammesfahr ?advertises himself as a nominee for a Nobel Prize based on a letter his congressman wrote to the Nobel committee.? Yes, Hammesfahr was ?nominated? for the Nobel Prize by his Republican congressman, Peter Bilirakis, back in 1999! And uh-oh! In 2003, William Levesque of the St. Peterburg Times described more of Hammesfahr?s brilliance:

LEVESQUE (10/25/03): In a 2002 order by Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George Greer ruling that Mrs. Schiavo could not recover, Greer labeled Hammesfahr a "self-promoter."
The judge noted that Hammesfahr testified that he had treated patients worse off than Mrs. Schiavo yet "offered no names, no case studies, no videos and no test results to support his claim."

He is a snake oil salesman and you are one of his customers. :roll:

Sorry RIP, you loose again.

Oh, have you read, incidentally? It turns out that he is NOT a Nobel Prize nominee. He was NEVER nominated for the Nobel Prize in ANY way, shape or form. It's a LIE that's being perpetrated in a number of Conservative media outlets INCLUDING Sean Hannity's show. Hannity himself pressed the "Nobel Prize Winning" lie REPEATEDLY yesterday.

So look at that: The CONSERVATIVE media is now doing EXACTLY what we all pissed and moaned about that goddamn Dan Rather did. More proof that the CHRISTIAN RIGHT is nothing more than a bunch of hypocrites and liars JUST LIKE THE LIBERAL EXTREMISTS in other news outlets.

You're disgusting.

Jason
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Here's a nurses testimony. I'm looking forward to hearing the smear.

Affidavit of CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N. (HT: Sounding the Trumpet)

Terri?s medical condition was systematically distorted and misrepresented. When I worked with her, she was alert and oriented. Terri spoke on a regular basis while in my presence, saying such things as "mommy," and "elp me." "Help me" was, in fact, one of her most frequent utterances. I heard her say it hundreds of times. Terri would try to say the word "pain" when she was in discomfort, but it came out more like "pay." She didn?t say the "n" sound very well. During her menses she would indicate her discomfort by saying "pay" and moving her arms toward her lower abdominal area. Other ways that she would indicate that she was in pain included pursing her lips, grimacing, thrashing in bed, curling her toes or moving her legs around. She would let you know when she had a bowel movement by flipping up the covers and pulling on her diaper.

[snip]

Throughout my time at Palm Gardens, Michael Schiavo was focused on Terri?s death. Michael would say "When is she going to die?," "Has she died yet?" and "When is that bitch gonna die?"

[snip]

When Michael visited Terri, he always came alone and always had the door closed and locked while he was with Terri. He would typically be there about twenty minutes or so. When he left Terri would would be trembling, crying hysterically, and would be very pale and have cold sweats.

Link

After Michael's visits, Iyer stated that Terri, at times, became symptomatic for hypoglycemia (low blood sugar). Iyer said she found an unexplainable bottle of fast acting insulin concealed in Terri's wastebasket that she speculates could have been used to induce the condition. She filed a police report but heard nothing further regarding the incident. Subsequently she received death threats she believes were related to notifying the authorities and was laterreleased from her position as a caregiver because of her actions in support of Terri.

I've heard her say the exact same things in interivews, but here's a link:

Link


From the same link:

The nurses, including Iyer, interacted with Terri and daily
witnessed her respond, laugh, and make requests. ?We had her at the
front of the nurse?s station? everyone loved Terri,? Iyer said.

When asked about the accuracy of the videos available on the internet Iyer said they were realistic but failed to capture Terri?s personality and, if anything, did not represent the extent of Terri?s ability to respond and communicate.

Iyer witnessed Terri consuming pudding and milkshakes every night and has previously testified that she fed Terri Jello. She witnessed Terri responding to her name, following others with her eyes and head and even moving her body with purpose.

If she dies, she'll have been murdered by the judicial system.
If you truly believe a thing, you must do more than assign blame and wash your hands of the issue. :gift:

 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Here's a nurses testimony. I'm looking forward to hearing the smear.

Affidavit of CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N. (HT: Sounding the Trumpet)

Terri?s medical condition was systematically distorted and misrepresented. When I worked with her, she was alert and oriented. Terri spoke on a regular basis while in my presence, saying such things as "mommy," and "elp me." "Help me" was, in fact, one of her most frequent utterances. I heard her say it hundreds of times. Terri would try to say the word "pain" when she was in discomfort, but it came out more like "pay." She didn?t say the "n" sound very well. During her menses she would indicate her discomfort by saying "pay" and moving her arms toward her lower abdominal area. Other ways that she would indicate that she was in pain included pursing her lips, grimacing, thrashing in bed, curling her toes or moving her legs around. She would let you know when she had a bowel movement by flipping up the covers and pulling on her diaper.

[snip]

Throughout my time at Palm Gardens, Michael Schiavo was focused on Terri?s death. Michael would say "When is she going to die?," "Has she died yet?" and "When is that bitch gonna die?"

[snip]

When Michael visited Terri, he always came alone and always had the door closed and locked while he was with Terri. He would typically be there about twenty minutes or so. When he left Terri would would be trembling, crying hysterically, and would be very pale and have cold sweats.

Link

After Michael's visits, Iyer stated that Terri, at times, became symptomatic for hypoglycemia (low blood sugar). Iyer said she found an unexplainable bottle of fast acting insulin concealed in Terri's wastebasket that she speculates could have been used to induce the condition. She filed a police report but heard nothing further regarding the incident. Subsequently she received death threats she believes were related to notifying the authorities and was laterreleased from her position as a caregiver because of her actions in support of Terri.

I've heard her say the exact same things in interivews, but here's a link:

Link


From the same link:

The nurses, including Iyer, interacted with Terri and daily
witnessed her respond, laugh, and make requests. ?We had her at the
front of the nurse?s station? everyone loved Terri,? Iyer said.

When asked about the accuracy of the videos available on the internet Iyer said they were realistic but failed to capture Terri?s personality and, if anything, did not represent the extent of Terri?s ability to respond and communicate.

Iyer witnessed Terri consuming pudding and milkshakes every night and has previously testified that she fed Terri Jello. She witnessed Terri responding to her name, following others with her eyes and head and even moving her body with purpose.

If she dies, she'll have been murdered by the judicial system.


RIP, two words NO CREDIBILITY

2 are CNAs, not nurses at all. The other one claims to have seen an amputees limb grow back once. The Parents REFUSED to even have them testify because they knew they were whacked out. I guess you have not watched her IYER's story metamorpasize on the different TV shows today. She can't even keep her lies straight!

Google some more. I'll check back in the AM. I do love a good early morning laugh. :roll:

Edit: I forgot one thing, I don't have to remind you the difference between signing a piece of paper and actually testifying, do I?
 
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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Here's a nurses testimony. I'm looking forward to hearing the smear.

Affidavit of CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N. (HT: Sounding the Trumpet)

Terri?s medical condition was systematically distorted and misrepresented. When I worked with her, she was alert and oriented. Terri spoke on a regular basis while in my presence, saying such things as "mommy," and "elp me." "Help me" was, in fact, one of her most frequent utterances. I heard her say it hundreds of times. Terri would try to say the word "pain" when she was in discomfort, but it came out more like "pay." She didn?t say the "n" sound very well. During her menses she would indicate her discomfort by saying "pay" and moving her arms toward her lower abdominal area. Other ways that she would indicate that she was in pain included pursing her lips, grimacing, thrashing in bed, curling her toes or moving her legs around. She would let you know when she had a bowel movement by flipping up the covers and pulling on her diaper.

[snip]

Throughout my time at Palm Gardens, Michael Schiavo was focused on Terri?s death. Michael would say "When is she going to die?," "Has she died yet?" and "When is that bitch gonna die?"

[snip]

When Michael visited Terri, he always came alone and always had the door closed and locked while he was with Terri. He would typically be there about twenty minutes or so. When he left Terri would would be trembling, crying hysterically, and would be very pale and have cold sweats.

Link

After Michael's visits, Iyer stated that Terri, at times, became symptomatic for hypoglycemia (low blood sugar). Iyer said she found an unexplainable bottle of fast acting insulin concealed in Terri's wastebasket that she speculates could have been used to induce the condition. She filed a police report but heard nothing further regarding the incident. Subsequently she received death threats she believes were related to notifying the authorities and was laterreleased from her position as a caregiver because of her actions in support of Terri.

I've heard her say the exact same things in interivews, but here's a link:

Link


From the same link:

The nurses, including Iyer, interacted with Terri and daily
witnessed her respond, laugh, and make requests. ?We had her at the
front of the nurse?s station? everyone loved Terri,? Iyer said.

When asked about the accuracy of the videos available on the internet Iyer said they were realistic but failed to capture Terri?s personality and, if anything, did not represent the extent of Terri?s ability to respond and communicate.

Iyer witnessed Terri consuming pudding and milkshakes every night and has previously testified that she fed Terri Jello. She witnessed Terri responding to her name, following others with her eyes and head and even moving her body with purpose.

If she dies, she'll have been murdered by the judicial system.

Terri is ALREADY DEAD. She died from NATURAL CAUSES, probably stemming from her ANOREXIA. This was FIFTEEN YEARS AGO.

Your "nurse" has been heard in the courts MORE THAN TWO YEARS AGO. Out of all the doctors, nurses, interns, patients, the police AND Terri's parents, this woman is the ONLY ONE who has come forward to make her claims. If you believe her claims you must also accept that ALL these other people are involved in a COVER UP for Michael Schiavo's sake. This woman is clearly a CHRISTIAN ACTIVIST and a FRAUD. The courts have HEARD her testimony and deemed her NOT CREDIBLE.

This issue has now been reviewed MORE THAN TWENTY TIMES by the courts. Your failed, miserable ideology with its basis on FAITH and rejection of PROOF has FAILED as it deserves to fail. You have been PROVEN to be a hypocrite and a liar. You have been PROVEN to not be the group concerned with "Privacy", "Marriage", "small government" or "Personal Choice." You have shown your true stripes: You care NOTHING for personal choice, you hold PRIVACY in contempt, you DISREGARD the sanctity of Marriage and you ILLEGALLY abuse the power of the government, writing a law aimed at ONE PERSON in a vain, arrogant attempt to find one more chance to WIN this case when the LAW has made its determination TWENTY TIMES OVER.

Stand up and take it like man, you worm, you representative of the worst, most hypocritical, DISHONEST group in America, a group which I am VERY pleased to say is in the VERY DEEPEST of MINORITIES.

Your kind are NOT the voice of America, you're the screeching. whining, gasping and DYING breath of a failed ideology desperately trying for a grab at power before you fade into the assheap of history where you belong.

And yes, I *did* intend "ASSheap".

Jason
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Terri is ALREADY DEAD. She died from NATURAL CAUSES, probably stemming from her ANOREXIA. This was FIFTEEN YEARS AGO.

Your "nurse" has been heard in the courts MORE THAN TWO YEARS AGO. Out of all the doctors, nurses, interns, patients, the police AND Terri's parents, this woman is the ONLY ONE who has come forward to make her claims. If you believe her claims you must also accept that ALL these other people are involved in a COVER UP for Michael Schiavo's sake. This woman is clearly a CHRISTIAN ACTIVIST and a FRAUD. The courts have HEARD her testimony and deemed her NOT CREDIBLE.

This issue has now been reviewed MORE THAN TWENTY TIMES by the courts. Your failed, miserable ideology with its basis on FAITH and rejection of PROOF has FAILED as it deserves to fail. You have been PROVEN to be a hypocrite and a liar. You have been PROVEN to not be the group concerned with "Privacy", "Marriage", "small government" or "Personal Choice." You have shown your true stripes: You care NOTHING for personal choice, you hold PRIVACY in contempt, you DISREGARD the sanctity of Marriage and you ILLEGALLY abuse the power of the government, writing a law aimed at ONE PERSON in a vain, arrogant attempt to find one more chance to WIN this case when the LAW has made its determination TWENTY TIMES OVER.

Stand up and take it like man, you worm, you representative of the worst, most hypocritical, DISHONEST group in America, a group which I am VERY pleased to say is in the VERY DEEPEST of MINORITIES.

Your kind are NOT the voice of America, you're the screeching. whining, gasping and DYING breath of a failed ideology desperately trying for a grab at power before you fade into the assheap of history where you belong.

And yes, I *did* intend "ASSheap".

Jason

Don't sugar coat it I feel exactly the same way about him. I truly hate his faction and all they stand for. They will expire like the dinosaurs did.

 

nageov3t

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the allegations against Michael Shiavo have already been addressed both in court and by the police, as far as I know, and were not found to be creadible.

who do we believe? a handful of nurses or the entire Florida justice system?
 

umbrella39

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RIPs star "witness" just alleged that Terri sat at the nurses desk and greeted visitors!

WOW

From the Offical Court Documents Page 5:

The remaining affidavits deal exclusively with events which allegedly occurred in the 1995-1997 time frame. The court feels constrained to discuss them. They are incredible to say the very least. Ms. Iyer details what amouns to a 10-month cover-up which would include the staff of Palm Garden of Largo Convalescent Center, the Guardian of the Person, the Guardian ad Litem, the medical professionals, the police and, believe it or not, Mr. and Mrs. Schindler. Her affidavit clearly states that she would "call them (Mr. and Mrs. Schindler) anyway because I thought they should know about their daughter."

The affidavit of Ms. Law speaks of Terri responding on a constant basis. Neither in the testimny nor in the medical records is there support for these affidavits as they purport to detail activities and responses of Terri Schiavo. It is impossible to believe that Mr. and Mrs. Schindler would not have suboenaed Ms. Iyer for the January 2000 evidentiary hearing had she contacted them as her affidavit alleges.
 
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Originally posted by: umbrella39
RIPs star "witness" just alleged that Terri sat at the nurses desk and greeted visitors!

WOW

So I assume they have footage of this? I assume she shook their hands, said hello, engaged in terse conversation and then promptly relapsed into her vegetative state for another 5 years?

You know what this reminds me of? That old Looney Tunes cartoon where the guy finds the frog who will sing and dance behind closed doors, but placed on the stage for the audience to see he won't do a damn thing. To hear these people talk, as soon as the cameras and the witnesses disappear, POOF, Terri comes to life like some kind of bastard lovechild of Jesus and the Looney Tunes Frog, performing tricks and being the life of the party UNLESS someone pops in the door.

It's ABSURD, and the only thing MORE absurd are the NUTS who believe this crap and who, moreover, believe that they have MORE RIGHT to decide Terri's fate than SHE or her HUSBAND have. Arrogant bastards!

Jason
 
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