The only hypocrite in the room is your RIP. Look in the mirror. He didn't decide her fate compulsive liar, the courts did obfuscator. Got any more? This is quite fun to pwn you so easily.
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Courts aren't infallible.
Know one knows what her wishes are because they aren't in writing.
Show me the proof that it's her wish is to be starved to death.
That's why we have courts RIP. Sorry, you can't just and only use them when they suit your agenda. You loose on this. The evidence was COMPELLING. These were her wishes. Get on with your OWN life.
There is no evidence. How can you believe the word of a man who can't even keep his wedding vow to his wife?
Keep obfuscating RIP. It was not my job or yours to believe him RIP. It is up to the courts. Here is a cookie for your next obfuscation.
The guy didn't keep the words he spoke in his wedding vow. Words obviously mean nothing to him.
He has no credibility.
Thank God that was not up to a fundamental hypocrite such as your self to decide then! There is a God and she is going to finally meet Him soon. He has been calling her for years but her parents have been listening to Rush too loud I guess to hear. You suffer from the same affliction I see.
You want her "husband" who is shaked up with a woman and has two kids while he's married to Terri to decide her fate?
There's no hypocrisy there. :disgust:
Originally posted by: Riprorin
You want her "husband" who is shaked up with a woman and has two kids while he's married to Terri to decide her fate?
There's no hypocrisy there. :disgust:
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Riprorin
You want her "husband" who is shaked up with a woman and has two kids while he's married to Terri to decide her fate?
There's no hypocrisy there. :disgust:
his wife has been effectively dead, in a vegitative state for 10 years. I can't blame him for moving on with his life.
what does he have to gain from pulling out the feeding tube other than peace of mind knowing that he's helped to fufill his wife's wishes? he could get a divorice any time he wanted to, and the situation obviously hasn't stopped him from moving on with his life.
if he were as much of a bastar.d as you're making him out to be, wouldn't it have been significantly easier to just drop the fight, get a divorice, and let his wife's family deal with the warm corpse?
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Riprorin
You want her "husband" who is shaked up with a woman and has two kids while he's married to Terri to decide her fate?
There's no hypocrisy there. :disgust:
his wife has been effectively dead, in a vegitative state for 10 years. I can't blame him for moving on with his life.
what does he have to gain from pulling out the feeding tube other than peace of mind knowing that he's helped to fufill his wife's wishes? he could get a divorice any time he wanted to, and the situation obviously hasn't stopped him from moving on with his life.
if he were as much of a bastar.d as you're making him out to be, wouldn't it have been significantly easier to just drop the fight, get a divorice, and let his wife's family deal with the warm corpse?
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Riprorin
You want her "husband" who is shaked up with a woman and has two kids while he's married to Terri to decide her fate?
There's no hypocrisy there. :disgust:
his wife has been effectively dead, in a vegitative state for 10 years. I can't blame him for moving on with his life.
what does he have to gain from pulling out the feeding tube other than peace of mind knowing that he's helped to fufill his wife's wishes? he could get a divorice any time he wanted to, and the situation obviously hasn't stopped him from moving on with his life.
if he were as much of a bastar.d as you're making him out to be, wouldn't it have been significantly easier to just drop the fight, get a divorice, and let his wife's family deal with the warm corpse?
So if she's 'effectively dead', then their marriage is dissolved, and power of attorney is transfered to her next of kin (her parents basically), right?
Originally posted by: Riprorin
I have no idea what his motives are.
He didn't keep his wedding vows. He's shacked up with a woman and has two kids with her while he's married to Terri. He's obviously not an honorable man.
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Riprorin
You want her "husband" who is shaked up with a woman and has two kids while he's married to Terri to decide her fate?
There's no hypocrisy there. :disgust:
his wife has been effectively dead, in a vegitative state for 10 years. I can't blame him for moving on with his life.
what does he have to gain from pulling out the feeding tube other than peace of mind knowing that he's helped to fufill his wife's wishes? he could get a divorice any time he wanted to, and the situation obviously hasn't stopped him from moving on with his life.
if he were as much of a bastar.d as you're making him out to be, wouldn't it have been significantly easier to just drop the fight, get a divorice, and let his wife's family deal with the warm corpse?
So if she's 'effectively dead', then their marriage is dissolved, and power of attorney is transfered to her next of kin (her parents basically), right?
nope.
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Riprorin
You want her "husband" who is shaked up with a woman and has two kids while he's married to Terri to decide her fate?
There's no hypocrisy there. :disgust:
his wife has been effectively dead, in a vegitative state for 10 years. I can't blame him for moving on with his life.
what does he have to gain from pulling out the feeding tube other than peace of mind knowing that he's helped to fufill his wife's wishes? he could get a divorice any time he wanted to, and the situation obviously hasn't stopped him from moving on with his life.
if he were as much of a bastar.d as you're making him out to be, wouldn't it have been significantly easier to just drop the fight, get a divorice, and let his wife's family deal with the warm corpse?
So if she's 'effectively dead', then their marriage is dissolved, and power of attorney is transfered to her next of kin (her parents basically), right?
nope.
Why not?
Mike's lucky that Florida doesn't acknowledge common-law marriage...
Yet, he's still guilty of a second degree misdemeanor for "living in open adultery"
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Riprorin
You want her "husband" who is shaked up with a woman and has two kids while he's married to Terri to decide her fate?
There's no hypocrisy there. :disgust:
his wife has been effectively dead, in a vegitative state for 10 years. I can't blame him for moving on with his life.
what does he have to gain from pulling out the feeding tube other than peace of mind knowing that he's helped to fufill his wife's wishes? he could get a divorice any time he wanted to, and the situation obviously hasn't stopped him from moving on with his life.
if he were as much of a bastar.d as you're making him out to be, wouldn't it have been significantly easier to just drop the fight, get a divorice, and let his wife's family deal with the warm corpse?
So if she's 'effectively dead', then their marriage is dissolved, and power of attorney is transfered to her next of kin (her parents basically), right?
nope.
Why not?
Mike's lucky that Florida doesn't acknowledge common-law marriage...
Yet, he's still guilty of a second degree misdemeanor for "living in open adultery"
nope. he's getting engaged to be married after she passes away. and I highly doubt that this law has been enforced in this way at any time.
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Riprorin
You want her "husband" who is shaked up with a woman and has two kids while he's married to Terri to decide her fate?
There's no hypocrisy there. :disgust:
his wife has been effectively dead, in a vegitative state for 10 years. I can't blame him for moving on with his life.
what does he have to gain from pulling out the feeding tube other than peace of mind knowing that he's helped to fufill his wife's wishes? he could get a divorice any time he wanted to, and the situation obviously hasn't stopped him from moving on with his life.
if he were as much of a bastar.d as you're making him out to be, wouldn't it have been significantly easier to just drop the fight, get a divorice, and let his wife's family deal with the warm corpse?
So if she's 'effectively dead', then their marriage is dissolved, and power of attorney is transfered to her next of kin (her parents basically), right?
nope.
Why not?
Mike's lucky that Florida doesn't acknowledge common-law marriage...
Yet, he's still guilty of a second degree misdemeanor for "living in open adultery"
nope. he's getting engaged to be married after she passes away. and I highly doubt that this law has been enforced in this way at any time.
No time like the present. And I believe he's referred to this woman as his "fiancée". Conflict of interest? Naaaah!
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Riprorin
You want her "husband" who is shaked up with a woman and has two kids while he's married to Terri to decide her fate?
There's no hypocrisy there. :disgust:
his wife has been effectively dead, in a vegitative state for 10 years. I can't blame him for moving on with his life.
what does he have to gain from pulling out the feeding tube other than peace of mind knowing that he's helped to fufill his wife's wishes? he could get a divorice any time he wanted to, and the situation obviously hasn't stopped him from moving on with his life.
if he were as much of a bastar.d as you're making him out to be, wouldn't it have been significantly easier to just drop the fight, get a divorice, and let his wife's family deal with the warm corpse?
So if she's 'effectively dead', then their marriage is dissolved, and power of attorney is transfered to her next of kin (her parents basically), right?
nope.
Why not?
Mike's lucky that Florida doesn't acknowledge common-law marriage...
Yet, he's still guilty of a second degree misdemeanor for "living in open adultery"
nope. he's getting engaged to be married after she passes away. and I highly doubt that this law has been enforced in this way at any time.
No time like the present. And I believe he's referred to this woman as his "fiancée". Conflict of interest? Naaaah!
correct, no conflict of interest. you think he's trying to let terri die for fun? to marry someone else? if he wanted to, he would just divorce terri.
he's respecting terry's wishes of not being kept alive in a coma.
meanwhile, her parents, you, rip, and the florida congress are trying to torture her for as long as possible.
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Riprorin
You want her "husband" who is shaked up with a woman and has two kids while he's married to Terri to decide her fate?
There's no hypocrisy there. :disgust:
his wife has been effectively dead, in a vegitative state for 10 years. I can't blame him for moving on with his life.
what does he have to gain from pulling out the feeding tube other than peace of mind knowing that he's helped to fufill his wife's wishes? he could get a divorice any time he wanted to, and the situation obviously hasn't stopped him from moving on with his life.
if he were as much of a bastar.d as you're making him out to be, wouldn't it have been significantly easier to just drop the fight, get a divorice, and let his wife's family deal with the warm corpse?
So if she's 'effectively dead', then their marriage is dissolved, and power of attorney is transfered to her next of kin (her parents basically), right?
nope.
Why not?
Mike's lucky that Florida doesn't acknowledge common-law marriage...
Yet, he's still guilty of a second degree misdemeanor for "living in open adultery"
nope. he's getting engaged to be married after she passes away. and I highly doubt that this law has been enforced in this way at any time.
No time like the present. And I believe he's referred to this woman as his "fiancée". Conflict of interest? Naaaah!
correct, no conflict of interest. you think he's trying to let terri die for fun? to marry someone else? if he wanted to, he would just divorce terri.
he's respecting terry's wishes of not being kept alive in a coma.
meanwhile, her parents, you, rip, and the florida congress are trying to torture her for as long as possible.
Yeah, the guy's a prince.
How is she being "tortured"?
Originally posted by: totalcommand
correct, no conflict of interest. you think he's trying to let terri die for fun? to marry someone else? if he wanted to, he would just divorce terri.
he's respecting terry's wishes of not being kept alive in a coma.
meanwhile, her parents, you, rip, and the florida congress are trying to torture her for as long as possible.
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: totalcommand
correct, no conflict of interest. you think he's trying to let terri die for fun? to marry someone else? if he wanted to, he would just divorce terri.
he's respecting terry's wishes of not being kept alive in a coma.
meanwhile, her parents, you, rip, and the florida congress are trying to torture her for as long as possible.
I'm torturing her? He's the one who is refusing to allow treatment.
Besides, he lied with his marriage oath, who's to say he isn't making this up too? After all, Terry is a very devout Catholic, why would she say "Hey Mike, if I deteriorate, just let me go"?
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Wonderful guy, Mr. Schaivo.
Michael Schiavo: Loving Husband Or Monster?
By Bonnie Chernin Rogoff (02/21/05)
As national pro-life groups and prominent leaders converged in vigils outside Woodside Hospice in Pinellas Park, Florida, Terri Schiavo is inside the building in her bed, still hooked up to the feeding tube that has been center-focus of this so-called ?right-to-die? case for the past several years. Ms. Schiavo is profoundly disabled and cannot communicate with words at this time.
But she knows. She feels. There?s expression in those eyes. Just one look at her in a video with her mother and everyone except the Scarecrow on his way to Oz knows it, too.
Recently, another presumed ?brain-dead? woman made news in Kansas. In a coma after becoming the victim of a drunk driver, Sarah Scantlin snapped out of a twenty year silence and began to speak. Memories are now coming back to her. By legal definition, Miss Scantlin?s life is valid. Yesterday, it was not. Was she ever in a persistent vegetative state, or PVS? She?d respond to questions by blinking once for no, twice for yes, but since she couldn?t speak no one was ever sure she understood the questions.
That?s the problem. No one is ever sure. The only ones who claim to know what?s best for the profoundly disabled are those who seek to benefit the most by having them legally murdered.
On Monday, February 21, new hearings will commence before Judge Greer with regard to the Schiavo case. The Empire Journal reports that David Gibbs III, attorney representing Terri?s parents Robert and Mary Schindler, will argue that new medical tests be ordered for Terri based upon a new brain imaging study published in the journal ?Neurology.? These tests could determine whether Terri Schiavo is, in fact, in a PVS. Since Judge Greer believes she is, ruled to have her killed and has thus far refused the admission of any medical evidence that would save Terri?s life, I?d be shocked to see him budge.
Greer has been acting in the dual role of judge and guardian ad litem. He previously denied a petition by Terri?s parents that their daughter be given a swallowing test, and has denied them the right to visit Terri. He continues to promote the interests of Michael Schiavo by refusing Terri the right to independent counsel, a right which even serial killers like Ted Bundy received.
Whenever people discuss euthanasia, you?ll always find those who will defend the odious practice. However, no one defends domestic violence. That leads to the 6 ft. 6 inch, 250 pound problem: Michael Schiavo. The evidence compiled against him suggests a history and pattern of domestic abuse against Terri and other women that is strong and significant. An immediate criminal investigation is warranted.
The main evidence comes from a bone scan taken on March 5, 1991. As Terri?s guardian, Michael Schiavo denied her family access to Terri?s records, the results of which were not made available until November, 2002. This scan indicated numerous broken bones in various stages of healing, including compressions fractures, a broken back, pelvis, ankle, bone bruises and ossifications.
Board certified radiologist Dr. Walker read the scan in 1991 and interpreted the results as abnormal, which he attributed to either an accident or earlier trauma. Based on the remodeling process of her bones, Dr. Walker stated in his deposition that a) the injuries indicated by the scan occurred on or around the time that Terri Schiavo collapsed; b) the abnormalities on the bone scan were not typical of someone suffering cardiac arrest and collapsing to the floor, and c) the fractures indicated by the bone scan are not typical of patients bedridden only thirteen months. As recorded in Dr. Walker?s November 21, 2003 deposition, Terri might have been the victim of foul play via a blow to her body, being thrown into a sharp furniture corner, or assaulted with a blunt object.
On October 24, 2003, renowned forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden was interviewed by Greta van Susteren on Fox News. He disclosed that with low potassium and no elevated enzymes, it would be extremely rare for a young woman to collapse as Terri did from a heart attack. When asked what the bone injuries suggest to him, Dr. Baden replied, ?Some kind of trauma. The trauma can be from a fall, or the trauma can be from some kind of beating that she obtained from somebody somewhere. It?s something that should have been investigated in 1991 when these findings were found.?
Other medical testimonies are in agreement. One medical expert testified that a diagnosis of a heart attack was never made. Another testified that Terri?s rigid neck indicates she may have been the victim of strangulation. Psychiatrist and expert witness Carole E. Lieberman, M.D., M.P.H. offered preliminary thoughts and provided a chilling profile of Michael Schiavo as an abusive husband.
Prior to Terri?s collapse, there were serious financial problems in her marriage and her husband Michael tried to control her behavior. He was fired from six jobs in two years, some of which he held only two weeks. They often lived on her income, which Michael often spent on himself. He monitored her odometer and isolated her from her family and friends. On the day of her collapse, Michael and Terri had a bad fight after he accused her of spending too much money at the hairdresser.
Dr. Lieberman concludes: ?He (Michael) should most definitely be investigated as the perpetrator of the ?incident? that caused Terri?s collapse and her current condition.?
Michael Schiavo insists that Terri stated early in their marriage that she never would want to be kept on life support. Even if that were true, Terri is not on life support; she breathes on her own. Since Terri has no written will, everything Michael Schiavo says is hearsay. He violated numerous Florida statutes and the Americans for Disabilities Act by failing to perform his duties as his wife?s guardian, most notably by denying his disabled wife basic medical care as part of a malpractice settlement award he received.
However, of all Michael?s offensive actions against his wife, what I deem most suspicious was his decision to have Terri cremated immediately upon her demise. In all the documentation on this case, there is not a single account of Terri Schiavo having ever expressed a desire to be cremated. Michael?s excuse is to say that she wouldn?t want a standard burial because she ?doesn?t like bugs.? I?m not buying. The likely reason is that Michael has something to hide ? like the cause of her numerous bone injuries, perhaps? ? and he doesn?t want an autopsy to uncover any incriminating evidence.
So, what really happened on February 25, 1990? We know that Terri fell in her home and sustained serious injuries. We know that Michael Schiavo, who was trained in CPR, oddly did not administer CPR to his wife. We know for the past fifteen years his only mission has been to deny any rehabilitation for Terri.
Dr. Carole Lieberman observed, ?If Terri were to be allowed to die, as Michael has been desperately struggling to achieve for years, it could help him escape detection. This would be a grave miscarriage of justice.?
That?s exactly the way Michael Schiavo and the Florida judicial system want it.
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Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: totalcommand
correct, no conflict of interest. you think he's trying to let terri die for fun? to marry someone else? if he wanted to, he would just divorce terri.
he's respecting terry's wishes of not being kept alive in a coma.
meanwhile, her parents, you, rip, and the florida congress are trying to torture her for as long as possible.
I'm torturing her? He's the one who is refusing to allow treatment.
Besides, he lied with his marriage oath, who's to say he isn't making this up too? After all, Terry is a very devout Catholic, why would she say "Hey Mike, if I deteriorate, just let me go"?
Right, he lied in his marriage oath. :roll:
I know very devout Catholics who've gone against what the pope says on many occasions. It's not a big deal.
There is no more possible treatment that will improve her even a miniscule amount, the doctors have said. Her parents continue torture her in spite of this. Unbelievable.
http://www.newsday.com/news/health/orl-...olumn?coll=ny-leadhealthnews-headlinesYou are Terri Schiavo.
You are lying in a bed, with your brain reduced to performing the most rudimentary functions. You wake up. You sleep. Sometimes you respond to basic stimuli. You make noises open to interpretation by the hopeful.
You are awake but not awake. You died but are still alive. It is a cruel hoax played on those who love you.
There are thousands of people who have been in a similar situation. They have had their feeding tubes pulled with no fanfare.
But they did not have a husband who wanted to pull the tube and parents who did not. For reasons beyond me, they can't work it out. And you can't cast the deciding vote.
You are Terri Schiavo. Whose side are you on? Your husband says it was your request, back when you had a working brain, that you not be kept alive under these circumstances.
If God is up there waiting, isn't that a better place to be?
Or should you go to your parents if that brings them comfort?
Your father writes: "This is our daughter, our little girl, and even in her disabled condition, she still has the right to life and the right to be loved and cared for by her family."
Is this really about your family providing love and care to you? Or is it about you -- even in your condition -- providing love and care to them?
And if this is the case, as a father I have to ask: Is that so wrong? Isn't that your daughterly duty?
A judge allowed your feeding tube to be yanked in 2001. Two days later, another judge ordered it restored.
In 2003, the tube was pulled again. Then it was the politicians' turn. House Speaker Johnnie Byrd was running for the U.S. Senate. He needed to curry favor with religious conservatives. So he pushed through a law to "save" you. And then he sent out a press release: Be sure to catch Me on Fox News, talking about Terri.
Jeb Bush used Byrd's law to restore your feeding tube six days after it came out. He snatched you back, just about the time that bright light was visible at the end of the tunnel. Was he doing you a favor?
You are Terri Schiavo. Your body has become a soccer ball for others to deflate and pump back up. How much of this really is about you?
Bush's actions were overturned by the courts, as everyone predicted.
He dragged this out, and he dragged you out. And now he is working his gubernatorial magic behind the scenes to keep that tube from coming out a third time. His Medicaid budget, meanwhile, pulls the money tube on the medically needy.
You are Terri Schiavo. You were so beautiful and full of life, and now millions of strangers watch your distorted features on video, supposedly reacting to that which the experts say you are oblivious to. How do you feel about being seen like that? The attorney who represents your parents has a media director. Anyone wanting a quote about you can give him a call.
You are Terri Schiavo. I wish you a final outcome, be it with your parents or with your maker. People ought not play tug of war with feeding tubes.
You confronted us with the possibility of ending up like you. The thought was so horrifying, we scrambled to sign living wills. If we suffer the tragedy of brain death before body death, the awful burden of decision-making will be lifted from our loved ones, thanks to you.
Your life, such as it is, certainly has not been without purpose.
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: totalcommand
correct, no conflict of interest. you think he's trying to let terri die for fun? to marry someone else? if he wanted to, he would just divorce terri.
he's respecting terry's wishes of not being kept alive in a coma.
meanwhile, her parents, you, rip, and the florida congress are trying to torture her for as long as possible.
I'm torturing her? He's the one who is refusing to allow treatment.
Besides, he lied with his marriage oath, who's to say he isn't making this up too? After all, Terry is a very devout Catholic, why would she say "Hey Mike, if I deteriorate, just let me go"?
Right, he lied in his marriage oath. :roll:
I know very devout Catholics who've gone against what the pope says on many occasions. It's not a big deal.
There is no more possible treatment that will improve her even a miniscule amount, the doctors have said. Her parents continue torture her in spite of this. Unbelievable.
"Devout" or CINO's?
There are doctors who've said otherwise, yet Michael refuses to allow them to verify what they've said. So who's torturing who?
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: totalcommand
correct, no conflict of interest. you think he's trying to let terri die for fun? to marry someone else? if he wanted to, he would just divorce terri.
he's respecting terry's wishes of not being kept alive in a coma.
meanwhile, her parents, you, rip, and the florida congress are trying to torture her for as long as possible.
I'm torturing her? He's the one who is refusing to allow treatment.
Besides, he lied with his marriage oath, who's to say he isn't making this up too? After all, Terry is a very devout Catholic, why would she say "Hey Mike, if I deteriorate, just let me go"?
Right, he lied in his marriage oath. :roll:
I know very devout Catholics who've gone against what the pope says on many occasions. It's not a big deal.
There is no more possible treatment that will improve her even a miniscule amount, the doctors have said. Her parents continue torture her in spite of this. Unbelievable.
"Devout" or CINO's?
There are doctors who've said otherwise, yet Michael refuses to allow them to verify what they've said. So who's torturing who?
Devout.
Neutral doctors have said so. You, rip, Congress, and her parents are torturing her. Hopefully this will end soon.
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: totalcommand
correct, no conflict of interest. you think he's trying to let terri die for fun? to marry someone else? if he wanted to, he would just divorce terri.
he's respecting terry's wishes of not being kept alive in a coma.
meanwhile, her parents, you, rip, and the florida congress are trying to torture her for as long as possible.
I'm torturing her? He's the one who is refusing to allow treatment.
Besides, he lied with his marriage oath, who's to say he isn't making this up too? After all, Terry is a very devout Catholic, why would she say "Hey Mike, if I deteriorate, just let me go"?
Right, he lied in his marriage oath. :roll:
I know very devout Catholics who've gone against what the pope says on many occasions. It's not a big deal.
There is no more possible treatment that will improve her even a miniscule amount, the doctors have said. Her parents continue torture her in spite of this. Unbelievable.
"Devout" or CINO's?
There are doctors who've said otherwise, yet Michael refuses to allow them to verify what they've said. So who's torturing who?
Devout.
Neutral doctors have said so. You, rip, Congress, and her parents are torturing her. Hopefully this will end soon.
I thought it was the court appointed doctors who said she was PVS.
And do you think Judge Greer is being fair in regards to due process?
good thaughts indeed totalcommandOriginally posted by: totalcommand
Rip, I thought I'd respond to your biased commentary with another biased commentary, since you like them oh so much. Here it is:
http://www.newsday.com/news/health/orl-...olumn?coll=ny-leadhealthnews-headlinesYou are Terri Schiavo.
You are lying in a bed, with your brain reduced to performing the most rudimentary functions. You wake up. You sleep. Sometimes you respond to basic stimuli. You make noises open to interpretation by the hopeful.
You are awake but not awake. You died but are still alive. It is a cruel hoax played on those who love you.
There are thousands of people who have been in a similar situation. They have had their feeding tubes pulled with no fanfare.
But they did not have a husband who wanted to pull the tube and parents who did not. For reasons beyond me, they can't work it out. And you can't cast the deciding vote.
You are Terri Schiavo. Whose side are you on? Your husband says it was your request, back when you had a working brain, that you not be kept alive under these circumstances.
If God is up there waiting, isn't that a better place to be?
Or should you go to your parents if that brings them comfort?
Your father writes: "This is our daughter, our little girl, and even in her disabled condition, she still has the right to life and the right to be loved and cared for by her family."
Is this really about your family providing love and care to you? Or is it about you -- even in your condition -- providing love and care to them?
And if this is the case, as a father I have to ask: Is that so wrong? Isn't that your daughterly duty?
A judge allowed your feeding tube to be yanked in 2001. Two days later, another judge ordered it restored.
In 2003, the tube was pulled again. Then it was the politicians' turn. House Speaker Johnnie Byrd was running for the U.S. Senate. He needed to curry favor with religious conservatives. So he pushed through a law to "save" you. And then he sent out a press release: Be sure to catch Me on Fox News, talking about Terri.
Jeb Bush used Byrd's law to restore your feeding tube six days after it came out. He snatched you back, just about the time that bright light was visible at the end of the tunnel. Was he doing you a favor?
You are Terri Schiavo. Your body has become a soccer ball for others to deflate and pump back up. How much of this really is about you?
Bush's actions were overturned by the courts, as everyone predicted.
He dragged this out, and he dragged you out. And now he is working his gubernatorial magic behind the scenes to keep that tube from coming out a third time. His Medicaid budget, meanwhile, pulls the money tube on the medically needy.
You are Terri Schiavo. You were so beautiful and full of life, and now millions of strangers watch your distorted features on video, supposedly reacting to that which the experts say you are oblivious to. How do you feel about being seen like that? The attorney who represents your parents has a media director. Anyone wanting a quote about you can give him a call.
You are Terri Schiavo. I wish you a final outcome, be it with your parents or with your maker. People ought not play tug of war with feeding tubes.
You confronted us with the possibility of ending up like you. The thought was so horrifying, we scrambled to sign living wills. If we suffer the tragedy of brain death before body death, the awful burden of decision-making will be lifted from our loved ones, thanks to you.
Your life, such as it is, certainly has not been without purpose.
Originally posted by: totalcommand
And they also said there is no further treatement possible.
He is being absolutely fair. The legislative branch has overstepped its bounds by trying to subpoena a person in PVS to keep her alive.